Families Of Germanwings Crash Victims Are Being Offered HOW MUCH?!

One of the most shocking aviation accidents in a while was the Germanwings one from this past March, whereby the first officer intentionally crashed the plane into the ground, killing everyone aboard. I can’t even begin to imagine how that must feel for the families and friends of those aboard.

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Beyond that I also recognize there’s absolutely nothing you can do to make people “whole” for loss of life. Whether you compensate families of victims $5,000 or $50,000 or $500,000 or $5m, it won’t bring back their loved ones.

That being said, Lufthansa has now made their compensation proposal to victims of families, and it’s shockingly low. While I don’t know what they deserve, I feel like it’s definitely not this. Via The New York Times:

More than three months after a Germanwings airliner crashed into a French mountainside, killing everyone aboard, the airline’s parent company, Lufthansa, made its first proposal to pay for emotional damages on Tuesday, offering the German victims’ families $28,000 each. Lawyers for the relatives immediately dismissed the figure as inadequate.

In a telephone briefing with reporters on Tuesday, officials from Lufthansa and Germanwings outlined the details of the compensation proposal sent to the families of the 72 victims from Germany, where, under current law, relatives of accident victims may claim only limited economic damages and are not entitled to compensation for emotional pain and suffering.

The Germanwings offer includes 25,000 euros, or $28,000, in compensation per victim for pain and suffering in the minutes before the crash, on top of payments of €50,000 per family that were made in the initial weeks after the March 24 crash to cover funeral and other immediate expenses. The airline also said it would pay a further €10,000 in emotional damages to each victim’s immediate family members, limited to parents, children, and spouses or partners that lived together. Siblings, grandparents and grandchildren will not be compensated unless they are able to demonstrate specific hardship.

So families were paid €50,000 initially to cover funerals and other expenses, and now they’re just being offered €25,000? Ouch!

Like I said, not that there’s any amount that would bring back their loved ones, but that’s just low…

What do you make of Germanwings’ compensation proposal?

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Danyo Guest

Hi Ben I know you that understand German so this might be interesting to you: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/germanwings-absturz-interview-zum-schmerzensgeld-der-lufthansa-a-1043650.html

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BHill Guest

@Charlie H - You just discounted your argument completely with this sentence “He was not acting on behalf of LH when he set the autopilot to crash”. Sorry, but I think your argument is both ridiculous, and, yes….clearly ignorant. The law on this is clear, which you should be aware of since you seem to be so knowledgeable about the law. The Montreal Convention states that an airline is liable for the “wrongful act” of an employee. Furthermore, in virtually all jurisdictions employers are liable for their employee’s wrongful acts under a legal doctrine known as "respondeat superior" liability. The employer escapes liability if the incriminating actions of an employee is not done while on duty. For example if the pilot murdered someone while shopping in a seven/eleven store, LH would not be liable as he is not on duty. LH is definitely liable under the law, but at issue is if they were negligent or not - which, if they were, could result in them having to pay significantly more damages. I will leave that to the courts to decide.

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Charlie H Guest

Keep calling me ignorant all you want, but I am starting to think you don't know what that word means. If the pilot was tearing up a no fly notice, then the pilot was actively hiding his condition from the company. Do the privacy laws in Germany and Europe even allow the company access to mental health records? What law imposes a duty on LH to check up on pilots with mental issues? Cite something, please, if so, then they might be liable. The way things work in the US is that a pilot gets a medical certificate from a doctor authorized by the FAA to issue such medical certificates. The doctor reports this status directly to the FAA. The airline then checks to see of a pilots medical status valid or the FAA notifies the airline of a revoked medical (I don't recall which way it works) If his medical cert. is valid, then he can fly. If a flight doctor revokes the medical cert, then they have to notify the FAA. If a doctor issues a "no fly notice" but didn't notify the authorities, then the doctor might be liable. ... I did some more seraching to support my position, and it looks like, even in Germany, pilot medical records are private. See below: "Medical record emerging Much attention has focused on Lubitz’s state of mind, with suggestions that he may have had mental health issues. Lubitz, 27, passed his annual pilot recertification medical examination in summer 2014, a German aviation source told CNN. He had started working as a commercial pilot in 2013, said Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings. An official with Lufthansa said that the exam only tests physical health, not psychological health. It’s unknown if Lubitz mentioned his problems on a form that asks yes-or-no questions about physical and mental illness, suicide attempts and medications. European pilots must fill out the form to be recertified. ***Federal aviation authorities, not the airline, issue the form. The form is privileged information, and Lufthansa never sees a pilot’s completed form, an airline representative said.*** The airline would only get a “clear to fly” notice from the aviation doctors alerting the airline that a pilot has completed recertification." So I ask again, how is LH suppose to follow up on this and where in the law does LH have a duty to do further investigations? @mallthus He was not acting on behalf of LH when he set the autopilot to crash, maybe in the broader general meaning of those words, he was, but not under the legal meaning of those words in the US. At least under US Law these purposeful acts of the pilot were likely well outside the scope of his employment.

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mallthus Diamond

Even if the co-pilot had not been mentally ill and or if they had not been diagnosed, at the end of the day, he was acting on behalf of LH and, acting on behalf of LH, he murdered all of the passengers on the flight. Hence, their deaths fall unequivocally on LH's doorstep.

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mallthus Diamond

German (and French and Spanish) tort law is not as different as some here seem to think. What's not recoverable are the sort of "pain and suffering" judgements that are commonly behind the astronomical awards seen in the US. There is plenty of room in the German legal system to support verifiable lost earnings claims, specifically the section on wrongful death, which explicitly accounts for annuities being provided to replace lost support.

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