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The Small Detail Standing In The Way Of Zimbabwe Airways Acquiring Four 777s

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Air Zimbabwe is the government owned airline of Zimbabwe, and they have a rather outdated fleet, consisting of a couple of 737-200s, 767-200s, an A320, and a Xian MA60. I'm not going to lie, that last one seems especially cool as an aviation geek, as only a few dozen are in service, and the plane…

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(@andrew)
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I, too, have been wanting to lease some 777s, and have found funding to be my primary obstacle.


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@andrew - hopefully your inflation rate isn't quite as high as 79.6B%...


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(@Marsh)
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Maybe they should hit up that Nigerian prince...


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(@No Name)
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Considering that this airline is run in practice by Mugabe son-in-law, I'm not surprised that it's a shit show.

https://www.theindependent.co.zw/2017/03/24/mugabe-son-law-riles-security-chiefs/


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 anon
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"Mrs. Mugabe taking off her bra and walking around the cabin in an undershirt"

Considering this was suites, you must have been paying quite a bit of attention....


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(@mike murphy)
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@ anon -- It wasn't, it was back in the day of the Singapore Airlines 747-400. I was in the center seat, she was in 1A. You couldn't *not* look at her.


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...and why is there no trip report of that flight on here?! 🙂


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 anon
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oh well that makes sense now, since the EU and US have imposed personal sanctions on her


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(@Marcus Leather)
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I just don't understand why the leasing company/seller has painted the aircraft in thei livery when in essense they havn't even got any money from them.
Perhaps they told them they had billions only to find out it was worthless zimbawe money.

I wonder if Maylasia was so desperate to get rid of their name on the 777s they'll paint them without even getting a deposit.


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 him
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Actually Zimbabwe is in deflation last year

After the country stopped printing their own currency in 2009,the inflation rate is no longer more than2%


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(@askmrlee)
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Regarding the name change from Air Zimbabwe to Zimbabwe Airways, it appears they are following the same rule book as one of American's legacy carriers. USAir changes to US Airways in part because "Airways" is more associated with international airlines and "Air" is more associated with regional carriers.


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(@dan-allen)
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See what happens when countries continue to raise the debt ceiling?


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Yeah, the inflation issue is very much a symptom rather than the cause of their lack of money. For a time they funded themselves domestically by printing so much money even Weimar Germany would blush. True, since giving up a domestic currency, inflation is no longer a problem. However, they still can't balance their current account.

@Andrew ROFLMAO I've always found funding issues to be the primary obstacle in life.


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 Ben
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A lack of money to pay for an aircraft seems like a very small obstacle in purchasing an aircraft.

Seriously though, Zimbabwe is an absolute basket case. I'm surprised they even have an airline.


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Don't dare to book flight with Air Zimbabwe. I had a bad experience with them last Nov. It took 6 months to get my money back. They have huge debts in most Airports that they fly and passengers are required to pay the Airport tax ($50) directly at security gates. You don't see that in their website and it is a fine print, website will crash after booking is completed and you will have to make 10s of calls to their Harare HUB to get the ticket issued. Price is ridiculously high and equivalent to SA Airways. Only for connection timing we decided to go for them but after bad experience we didn't fly with them as Airport nor Flight tracking apps can confirm if they are flying as per schedule. It is a hit & miss with no refund or compensation. We booked JNB to VFA with them. Finally we took British Airways (Franchise) to VFA and flew back from Livingstone. Victoria Falls is a must visit and take SA or BA if you decide to fly to Zimbabwe. One can fancy taking a British gifted steam engine train covering 300miles Victoria Falls to Bulawayo route on a 12hours train. Between Zimbabwe uses USD and prices of F&B and daily use items are just rocket high. A small box of steam rice pack is $13!!


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 Tim
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Rob Mugabe, before he robs you!!!


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 John
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Zimbabwe is a classic example of a failed nation. A shame since it was formerly the "Breadbasket of Africa".


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Having flown on a Xian MA60 in Laos a few years ago, I can assure you that you are not missing much. Perhaps the most notable issue was the ventilation system raining onto the passengers across the aisle from me (I was luckily seated in a dry zone).


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(@MikeM)
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Loved this story... esp the bit about Her Grace in First Class. Priceless. There are some things that money can't buy. Like class. For everything else, there's MasterCard.


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(@Matt R.)
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@gomigo I also booked JNB-VFA on Air Zimbabwe, but unlike you had the unique displeasure of actually flying them two months ago.. sort of. We got an e-mail from the airline at 10:45AM advising that our 1:30PM JNB-VFA flight was now due to depart at 11:15AM. Huh?!?! Luckily we were staying adjacent to JNB airport and just made the flight, on an ancient 762 with about 10 other passengers. However, halfway to VFA the flight diverted to BUQ (Bulawayo), where we were then treated to a seven hour van ride across Zimbabwe to VFA, for which the airline tried making us cover the cost of petrol. Truly a nightmarish experience.

We thought about booking SAA or BA for the return a few days later, but decided to chance the flight back on UM, because the flight timings were ideal for us. Astonishingly, our 30 year old 732 left VFA bang on time with every seat full, and arrived JNB early. Truly a bizarre experience.


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(@grace mugabe)
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Lol @MikeM..."There are some things money can't buy..." Grace is really a disgrace. A very arrogant woman, acting stupidly wherever she is, be it in Singapore or in SA. Lucky it will be nice to have a trip report of your journey with grace


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 CRB
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They used to run a fun fifth-freedom route on a 762 between Singapore and Beijing. Always thought that was the coolest most random fifth-freedom flight in the world


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Was there a trip report for the flight with Gucci Grace?


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