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Singapore Airlines Is Launching Flights Between Moscow & Stockholm

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I sure do love a fun fifth freedom route, especially when it's operated by one of the world's best airlines. For those of you not familiar with fifth freedom routes, it's when an airline operates a flight between two foreign countries (by "foreign" I mean countries where the airline isn't based). Examples include Singapore Airlines’…

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(@Credit)
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Lucky,

Few questions for the avgeeks:

Do airlines have duces pilots for fixed routes? I e the same pilotsize plying the routes to and fro?

How do pilits find their way from the run way to the gate? What do all the signs and different lights mean.


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(@Brad B)
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I notice you keep referring to LAN Chile in your reporting, just wanted to mention that they changed their name to LATAM Chile 🙂


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(@Alexander)
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Lacky, i think that correct cost in KF miles 12 750 for premium eco and 19 125 for Business.


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@ Alexander @ Brad B -- Fixed, thank you!


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 CRB
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If you're going from Stockholm to Southeast Asia/North Asia, the stop in Moscow won't be that attractive I think thus making the flight less competitive; so clearly SQ feels that there is enough traffic to be had between Moscow and Stockholm and Stockholm and Singapore.

Thai Airways can get people to Bangkok non-stop and Emirates and Qatar can get people to most points in Asia with just one stop.

I wish the route success but I think they'll have tough going of this.


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(@echino)
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Will I be able to book this flight using Aeroplan miles? Or KrisFlyer miles only?


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(@Jalan)
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The old Malaysia Airlines flight out of New York used to stop in Stockholm and it was a great route, flew it several times. A far more interesting way to get to S.E. Asia, and Stockholm Arlanda is great. Would love to see Singapore do that route again. Their Frankfurt route is great though, certainly better than having to stop in Moscow.


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 Rick
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12,750 KF miles for one-way J on a 2hr flight? Seriously considering.
19,125 KF miles for one-way J on a 2hr flight? Not a chance.
For me, there's way too much value to be had in KF's intra-Asian J -class award space to even consider this one.


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 MK
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15000 SEK = 1544 EUR r/t ARN-SIN ticket in business class. Count me in, SQ cabin crew and new A350 is far superior to any other airline flying from Scandinavia.


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(@Aaron Tan)
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I'm from Singapore 😉


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(@jorgen)
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Hi Ben,

Finally I got the miles needing on my Kris flyer account to made a online reservation dec 13 – with
Singapore Airlines new a359 – DUS-SIN. – May 2017 - Business

After doing seat assignment and finally check and (accept the very high Fuel surcharge EUR 277.64) (even on SQ own web) last step payment with AM-Aeroplan CR - shortly after
Followng messege shown up
“Due to a technical error, we cannot issue your tickets right now. Your credit/debit card hasn’t been charged, although the amount has been put on hold on your card. We’ve requested for your bank to release the hold, which is expected to be processed in a few days. Our reservations office will be in touch with you soon to assist with your booking.
For urgent assistance, get in touch with your local Singapore Airlines office. We apologise for the inconvenience.”
Paid via AM-AEROPLAN – 2016-DEC 13 - 10:28 AM
4 hours later a make a payment-reservation via Aeroplan (46.40 CAD) and use same card with NO proplem. (SIN-TPE-YVR-EVA)
Yesterday 24 hours later I talk to AM express and was told nothing was wrong with my credit card and I was told it happen sometimes.
Only reason I book via Krisflyer (SQ) even with skyhight levy since via AEROPLAN is extremely hard to get access to Business Class in A388 or A359
Have you or any other good people out there had similar experience and what was the reason?
Thanks for taking your time


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(@James)
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So I guess if you fly from Stockholm to Moscow and then connect the same day you still need a russian visa ?


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@James If you're only doing a layover, as in: not getting off the airport, I dont think so.


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 BG
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I'll be flying this route on my way from Oslo to Melbourne. Does this mean I'll have to disembark and board again in Moscow?

I had such a stop last year on Cathay Pacific. I was flying from Hong Kong to Fukuoka, but had a stop in Taipei. Even though it was the same aircraft and same flight number, we all had to disembark and go through a security check before being allow to board the same plane again.


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 John
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This is actually a major tactical blunder by Singapore Airlines. They are either completely unaware or have just ignored the fact that Swedes in general don't like Russia and have problems with Russians. This cultural aspect is important to recognize and SIA will make a poor business decision because they haven't.

The route between Stockholm and Moscow to Singapore will never be popular and will most likely be avoided by all Swedes heading to Singapore. There are even better connections through e.g. Helsinki with Finnair which is a lot quicker. Another issue is that you have to exit the airplane at Moscow which will just result in more hustle and bustle than necessary (not a direct flight). I would not be surprised if SIA actually decides to discontinue this "fifth freedom" route after realizing the low demand and traffic volume coming out from Stockholm-Arlanda for this particular flight.


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(@PJohan)
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@John - I agree wholeheartedly with your comment re ARN-DME to SIN and beyond. Major gaffe for SQ imo. It's worth the extra time it takes to reach FRA and depart from there, which provides a more sublime and refined experience for Swedes et al.


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(@Matthew)
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Can anyone explain *why* the stop in Moscow is necessary?


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 Adam
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I'm actually keen on this route. I want to tick off Moscow off my transit airport list without flying a Russian Airline. It's great to stretch your legs as well and enjoy more of the SA service! Planning Stockholm-Moscow-Singapore-Adelaide at the start of next year. The biz class seat is so good that it's worth the extra hop on and off the plane.


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