DHS Ends TSA Union,...
 

DHS Ends TSA Union, Abolishes Collective Bargaining

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 G S
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I think that the administration is on drugs and has no idea what they are doing?


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Diamond
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“The DHS also argues that…nearly 200 TSA officers are paid by the government but work full-time on union matters.”

This is the Musk administration.

Why should anyone believe this statement?

All they do is lie.


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(@linglingfool)
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Well, they seem to be in agreement there. 200 officers (DHS number) is just under 0.5% (union number) of the TSA workforce.


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(@cairns)
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mmmm. because it's true???

and easily verified with just a smidgen of on line research?


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(@Fed Employee .... for now...)
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For federal employees, joining the union is optional. They are not your typical union. They do not have the ability to negotiate many of the items or concerns that one thinks of with a traditional union, like the teamsters, AFL-CIO, etc.

The federal employee unions do not negotiate pay raises, the President and the Congress decide that. They do not negotiate days off, health benefits, layoffs, or pensions. They do not have the ability to strike.

The unions negotiate items such as the use of seniority for shift work assignments and overtime, along with vacation approval. They can help when a manager or supervisor abuses their power, if you are a member, but not as powerful as a private sector union.

And just to let you know....... at a worksite, no one cares who is or is not a union member. It is simply a choice. Again, not like the private sector.

I hope this is helps those who may not be familiar with the difference between federal and private sector unions.


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Diamond
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Thank you so much for this explanation!


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(@Willem)
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As someone who relies on TSA regularly & would be hampered by collective action, they should walk off en masse and bring back corporate’s fear of work stoppage. Would bring this nonsense to an abrupt end or otherwise provoke retaliatory action so ridiculous the public would take notice & on the strikers’ side


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 Dan
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Hey terrorists - please don't take this completely avoidable drama as an excuse to try another 9/11. Pretty please?


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(@Brian W)
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You really think a serious terrorist organization is intimidated by the TSA?


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(@cairns)
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Awesome. F government unions. Period.

Government service (remember what this is supposed to be about- the word "service"?) is a very well paying, secure job with retirement benefits those in private industry can only dream about.

U don't like it be a mall cop.


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(@Emach)
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And you can thank unions for why the government jobs have good pay, job security, and retirement benefits. Hope this helps!


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(@cairns)
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The overpaid mall cops in the airport are unhappy??? What a surprise.

Check out how many security audits they've failed.

It's amazing.

And appalling.


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(@darren-c)
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SFO, MCI, and 20 other US airports do not have TSA. They have privatized screening. All airports should have privatized screening. The TSA should be limited to oversight.


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(@KlimaBXsst)
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Logically, one would think this introduces the possibility of privatization of the airport screening process. The organization that offers more efficient as well as worker motivating processes will likely succeed, be it government or private enterprise. I would presume private enterprise would allow a union upon its property if workers deem it necessary. REGRETFULLY change is difficult sometimes but with change also often comes opportunity and many times financial advancement. A robust passenger screening system at airports is the goal and what ever competitive designs may come, we must ensure passenger screening does not become a soft spot for illegal activities or potential terrorists to creep through and past these highly important, valued, and watchful eyes.


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Diamond
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There are already private contractors doing the security screening at many airports across the US with the Screening Partner Program (SPP). Airports can put their security screening out for competitive bid, if they wish. It is an outside contractor at MCI (my home airport). The screening process is the same as any other US airport, but the agents are uniformly pleasant to deal with in my experience.

https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/screening-partnerships


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(@Komma)
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Almost everyone finds TSA a bit silly. But now people will love the TSA if it's the Anti-Trump thing to do. I'm all for the airport security and don't see a problem with it in a general sense, but let's all be realistic and admit the current iteration is garbage. Other countries have similar things that aren't absurdly slow.


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