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Virgin Atlantic Cancels Most Flights, Grounds Fleet

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Virgin Atlantic has this week announced how they plan to weather this current storm, given a huge reduction in travel demand and new government restrictions on flights. This doesn't come as a surprise, but Virgin Atlantic is seeing negative net bookings, meaning that more people are canceling flights than booking flights. The airline says that…

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(@williampdx)
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@Lucky/Everyone please read the summary from this paper published yesterday by the London Imperial College. Calling for isolation of our entire population (US and U.K.) for a minimum of 18 months. 3 min read at most.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf


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(@quasimodo)
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15-20% exec cuts...they need to go lower than that...please. window dressing.


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(@Paul Bee)
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Virgin Atlantic is offering rebooking of flights with change fee waiver - rebook until 12/31/20. However rebooking is problematic as booking class must be maintained for all segments, and I am seeng a $250 fare increase for any routing I've asked for..... which obviously negates any benefit of the change fee waiver. Plus the airline now looks to be on shaky ground in general.


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Diamond
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@Paul Bee

Virgin updated their policy last night, many more options through to 2021, open jaw or refund.

https://flywith.virginatlantic.com/gb/en/news/coronavirus/cancelled-flight.html


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(@KevinS)
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@Will

Yup, that is the study that finally got this administration (and, miraculously, Fox News) to take this seriously.


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(@sharon)
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Why not just suspend Newark service?


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Ahhh The first flight Virgin Atlantic ever took was London to Newark. Sad that the route is no more.


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(@the-nice-paul)
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"Continuing to offer an enhanced company sick pay policy ... with terms reduced to 12 weeks full pay"

That's just mystifying: in what way is reducing sick pay an "enhancement"?

Like quasimodo, I'd say a 15-20% salary cut for senior management shows they're not serious. I'd also withhold exec bonus payments until all public money has been repaid.

I bet Branson is kicking himself for not getting rid of his shares in VS just a few weeks ago, when Delta wanted to buy all his stake.


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(@Johhny)
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Compare this to the sweetheart deal American is offering its pilots.

Courtesy of the US taxpayer


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(@Eskimo)
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@The nice Paul

He might just be glad nobody infected Necker Island yet.


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"CEO Shai Weiss has extended his 20% pay cut to the end of 2020, with the Executive Leadership Team agreeing a decrease of 15% for the same period"

So they're asking regular employees to take 2/3 of their days off (essentially a 67% pay cut), but the executives making millions are going to just take a small 15-20% haircut? Sounds like a great deal!


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 Jr
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@David. Millions? Might want nb to do your bv research first.


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(@Jackie)
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The saddest thing that came out of this corona thing is I have to postpone my vacation.


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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This is what happens when most of your airline's business was built around the US to the UK. Virgin might have been able to isolate this part of its business if it had more regional European flights, more Asia flights, etc. I find it odd that Delta's CEO is giving up his pay but Virgin's CEO is only taking a cut. Newark also never made sense after the tie-in with Delta at JFK. But permanently losing Newark stinks because didn't they just spend a lot of money renovating that lounge?


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 Phil
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What are the odds they’ll go broke too?


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 Msw
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What about Virgin Australia? We've booked LA to Sydney to Perth for June.


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(@BARRY CHAPLIN)
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I am scheduled to return from Orlando to London on May 11th.How will this happen?


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(@Marion)
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What about Virgin Australia? We've booked LA-Sydney-Perth in June.


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(@Spaceman Spiff)
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@Will
the 18 months in the article you linked refers to the time to develop a vaccine, not the length of potential quarantine.


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(@Spaceman Spiff)
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Lucky, thanks for keeping us posted about what all the different airlines are doing to stay afloat. Interesting and possibly relevant to help me decide which airline to fly with in the future based on how they treat their employees.

@Jackie
so sad you had to cancel your vacation, nevermind the thousands of people who died, and the thousands more that will. You must be a really special person. LOL!


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(@worldspan)
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Newark is a shocker as that was their very 1st route they flew at inception in maybe 82-83 ? Remember their first 747 flying over my home then in Wayne New Jersey every afternoon on final approach to Newark Airport. They were considered something really different in those days.


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 JB
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@Barry Chaplin -
Since Orlando is a leisure route for Virgin, it won't come back until the demand does. However, this is also a big route for the airline and they fly up to 7 747's a day from the UK, and since it's the summer, I'd expect them to partially restore service if this situation gets better by then (though it's too early to call now).


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(@Marion)
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Apparently, Virgin Australia's owners are not Australian... Mostly Chinese, United Arab Emirates, etc. I hope they can help bail out the airline and save its employees and customers.


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(@Kristina Owen)
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I have to pay my final balance to a villa next week but I'm unsure the flights will go in June!? I will loose all money in Villa if I cancel can't claim back for it, I can't see any flights being on in June now


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Diamond
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@Kristina Owen I very much doubt Virgin will be upto a full flying schedule by then. Both the US and UK are bouncing around 12-18 weeks before life begins to return to normal, I feel for your situation but better not to waste money than take a risk, if you look over on other forums so many passengers have been left stranded in Orlando and it looks like virgin are letting some of them down and they are making their own way home via JFK.


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(@the-fred)
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I fail to believe they are permanently shutting the VS1 and 2; those flights are almost always full (not least in Upper) - and, as said above, the EWR Clubhouse was just recently renovated.

I fly that route at least twice a month - and the ability to fly into and out of Newark, not JFK, is a key factor for me.


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