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Oh My: Trump Says Bombardier Can No Longer Sell Planes In United States

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Trump says Bombardier can't sell planes in the US anymore, claiming trade grievances with Canada — but the post raises more questions than answers.


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 Udo
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He’s going to charge Canada tariffs. It’s one thing that the genius can’t spell, it’s another that he’s as economically illiterate as his undereducated supporters.


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This Will affect the trains division more than aircraft.

In fact bombardiers already opens factories in usa to get over the but America act already in place.

The actual impact of this is really in significant other than more bluster and outrage.


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The train division is now defunct; they were acquired by Alstom. The C-Series are now the Airbus A220 and the Dash 8s are now De Havilland Canada that uses Pratts.

Bombardier also uses either GE or Honeywell engines. Take a wild guess where GE and Honeywell are based 😉


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remember kids, Trump voters supported him because they like his free market policies that keep the government from interfering and picking winners and losers, not because they're unreconstructed racists


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Tertiary Syphilitic old man rants at clouds while driving America into a recesssion


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Not a ton of MAGAts on OMAAT these days (thankfully), but I’m sure the mouth breathers will come to the rescue somehow


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Oh they report to the dog whistle!


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Eh, personally prefer Embraer (170 and larger). Just something about over-wing engines...


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I've yet to see an airliner with over the wing engines, but the HondaJet has them!


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Bring back the Fokker-VFW 614!


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These are the Biden tariffs from the Biden economy after Joe Biden destroyed the country and left it for the heroic Republic party to fix. Oh, and don’t forget Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris’s laugh.

Just kidding!

I just wanted to see what it felt like to sound like a fat old orange Nazi walking-STI-carrying/spreading late-stage dementia-addled overflowing-diaper-filler-and-stench-leaking violent hateful greedy grifting rapist narcissist nutjob twat.

I can report that it feels as disgusting as it looks and sounds.


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Yes Mr.Prezident
You want Boeing to build a brand new 76 seater planes?

It took 787 around 9 years.
The 777X has now been over 14 years.
So the next plane would take at least 25 years? Right around the time Barron runs for office and Don Jr finds a nursing home.

If Boeing even makes commercial planes till then.


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It's amazing whenever I see a statement from him or the like my brain literally just automatically stops processing it and looks for the close quotes much like how my brain bypasses digesting advertisements- I don't even do this with intention my sensory reaction marks it as "useless information". It’s not that I refuse to listen to people I disagree with it's just you can never tell if the statements they make are real, fictional, reflect a policy, a fantasy and or will it ever last longer than a few minutes.... there's simply no reason to invest any thought into it.


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Such a petulant douchebag. He’s not used to people standing by up to him. Good for Canada!!


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American Airlines: he said American AirlineRs not Airlines! This is not an endorsment, please dont stop flying us!


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The day he finally carks it will be a worldwide celebration.


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Gentlemen, many of you are lost leftoids, but some leftoids have a sense of honor and empathy, it's just that it's been misdirected - any New Yorker can go and open a TD acc at one of many local branches. Can a Torontonian go and open an acc at a U.S. bank's branch (of which there are retail almost none)? You name it, MS, BpfA, Citi, JPM, CapitalOne. No true branches in CA cities, because they're outlawed, because if they weren't all Canadian banking would've carried American banks' names by now. Whatever issues you may have with Donald and i have a few, Canada is certainly not one of them - they have enjoyed every benefit of a state without being a state.


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Yeah we really screwed ya, buying from Amazon, flying in Boeing planes, vacationing in Florida, wearing American clothes, watching American entertainment, trading (all voluntarily, for all parties, remember) over a billion dollars a day across the US-Canada border. We're the ones with the trade deficit anyway (as if that's a bad thing) if you don't include energy, which we sell to US customers at a significant discount. We're not buying Bourbon. Ask the Governor of Kentucky what he thinks about the trade war.

Yes, it's true that Canada's banking industry is regulated in a completely different way from that of the USA. Our priorities are different, just as they are in Aerospace and Telecom. Majority ownership must be Canadian. USA does the same thing in many industries.

The original reason Canada has a car industry is that in the '60s, we said the Big 3 had to make cars in Canada, as many as they sold in Canada. It was called the Auto Pact and the Government of USA, Ford, Chrysler and GM agreed because that was the better choice, in their interest.

Later NAFTA was signed by multiple US Presidents, because it was a win win.

The trade war is unbelievably stupid. The "no US banks in Canada" argument is stupid because it's irrelevant. Canada will continue to subsidize dairy, allow its lumber industry to harvest trees on Crown land, and to ban US banks (from retail banking, not from all activities; Citi has an office building in downtown Toronto). And yet, Free Trade agreements, like the one currently in place that Trump is violating, are in USA's interest. Trump and his people are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Cutting off their nose to spite their face. Or whatever old expression you prefer.

let us know when grownups are in charge again


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Syd, you’re inaccurate on many fronts (and merely parroting Trump’s propaganda) There are currently 15 U.S.-based banks operating out of Canada, either as branches or subsidiaries. Recall that foreign companies can and do have U.S. subsidiaries as well, such as, TD Bank, N.A., headquartered in Cherry Hill, NJ. Sure, its parent company is still Toronto Dominion of Canada. That said, many American companies (outside of banking) also have Canadian subsidiaries as well. So, your point (above, about unfairness, etc.) isn’t really what you think it is. This is all bluster, and it’s not going to go well for any of US.


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gentlemen, good thing there are a few of you, do i need to say that "there was a time when Chase had tens of thousands (lmao) of clients in Canada, but it no longer does" proves my point? DenB got a bit salty cause he thinks that him buying from American Amazon due to its convenience or flying Boeings cause there are no other options negates the fact that Canada safeguards certain industries from U.S. whereas broadly U.S. doesn't safeguard anything from Canada (hence, state treatment without being a state). Again, many issues with Donald, the optics could've and should've been different but there is very simply no argument that economically this has been a one-sided relationship. DenB, would you be open to dropping all tariffs against each other by both countries?

1990, i like you dude, quite a lot, but i also think we are fully on the same page here. you said many American companies have Canadian subsidiaries and that's essentially exactly what the Donald is asking of Bombardier - have a U.S. subsidiary that builds things here. where is the issue?


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@Syd:

You mean like at the U.S. subsidiary of Bombardier in Wichita!


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Syd, Bombardier already has a fairly large US presence and manufacturing operation (mostly in Kansas). Those are US-workers, parts, and engines, going into those aircraft. Not to mention, the US currently operates the most Bombardier aircraft of any country; lots of very wealthy folks here like their Challenger and Global series... they're not gonna be happy paying 50% more for their PJs.

US entities voluntarily opening Canadian subsidiaries is different from governments threatening to ban foreign counterpart's products, or to decertify their aircraft, not because of a legitimate safety concern, but as a political weapon. It’s yet another example of self-sabotage driven by posturing rather than the economic reality.

As far as tariffs more broadly, they're supposed to be surgical, not a broad escalatory sledgehammer against the world. Also, the US already has pre-existing forms of protectionism as well (Jones Act, Buy American, ag subsidies, aerospace/defense, etc.)

(And, yes, I also 'like' most folks who dare engage on these platforms... if you're willing to read, write, and debate on here, you're at least 'trying,' so thank you. The irony here is that, as a passenger, I've already noted blow, CRJs are not even my preferred aircraft. For an RJ, I'd like an Embraer 170 or larger; over-wing engines, larger bins, please. Bah!)


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Too much Fox - too few facts. Name of the game


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I receive flyers for CapitalOne Canada credit cards in my mailbox every other week. Plenty of American banks offer or used to offer retail banking products here, including Chase which at one point issued Marriott and Amazon co-branded cards in Canada and had tens of thousands of customers. So not sure what your point is?


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He has been ranting all day – yes, all century, but particularly today – and this is just one.

He may well consider private jets to be “airliners,“ since his private 757 is both. But yeah, I doubt he stopped to think or even verify, that Bombardier is no longer selling commercial airline products here. Heck, even I had temporarily forgotten.

Details like that just take a distant second fiddle when he’s pissed. And he’s pissed a lot.

Almost the exact opposite of what I have been taught all my life is proper presidential character to lead what bills itself is the greatest nation on earth.

I guess we should just be thankful that “Nathalie,” or whoever typed this one, didn’t make an error and say “American Airlines“ instead of “American airliners.”


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Its really not hard to understand. Canadian companies can sell in the United States with little to no trade barriers. But if a US company wants to sell in Canada they are blocked by the Canadian government


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Canada and their Monarchs (they are a Monarchy with King Charles as the head of State), have been screwing America for 250 years. I’m glad Donald is standing up to Carney, the City of London and the world’s globalist elites. Go Don!


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Off your meds, I see.


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Lyndon LaRouche is dead. You can let that one go.


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The REAL Lyndon LaRouche would never have supported this idiotic Trump B.S.


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"Infer" does not mean what I think you think it means.


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It's just finger flatulence. It will pass. Thank you for ignoring this matter.


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HOW much longer do we need to put up with this kook?


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