Star Alliance Adds Deutsche Bahn As First Intermodal Member

…there is a train with a Star Alliance livery already.

…there already is one ICE train with a Star Alliance livery.

stay away from DB this summer. My recent experience was two levels below amtrak. Normally, they are fine, but what's happening on Lufthansa is happening on the IC and ICE trains as well.

This is really rather disappointing. It's basically only a codeshare alliance membership, that you can benefit from if a *A member airlines puts their code on a train service operated by DB. This is not something innovative, not even new ... AF/KL also has it with Thalys Rail and so does Swiss with SBB. The only, very marginal, innovation is that it is easier for other *A airlines to put their code on DB rail services.

I’m not too familiar with the German Rail system but speaking as someone who regularly uses French and Italian Rail, this initiative sounds like it could be more trouble than it’s worth. The aforementioned rail systems have their own loyalty programs which are solid and easy to book and rebook online in the event of a missed connection or a change in plans. Special (and targeted) discount fares are nearly always available with a little advance planning. Redemptions are also easy. As far as I am concerned, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Sounds disappointing. I fly to FRA in August. My wife arrives a day later from SOF. I booked a day early just in case. I am not purchasing an ICE to Cologne when my wife arrives... just in case. I guess I could marry her LH and DB, but it sounds like more trouble than it's worth.

And you would have Lounge access to DB lounges

For the amount of 29.90 Euro First Class ticket DB is selling already, every DB lounge is overcrowded enough...

Whilst I am aware that DB has terrible
punctuality (75% last year); I had a great journey today. Köln to Vienna via Nürnberg, booked with a connection because I couldn’t reserve seats all the way as direct. I’d built in a 1hr12 minute connection, based on the punctuality record of the train is started on.

As it turned out, everything was on time and I got to have a plate of Nürnberg roast bratwurst and a glass of beer in the sunshine of the Altstat between trains.

If you are referring to the Sparpreis: that does not have lounge access included.

It seems to me that more and more, managers make decisions in their meeting rooms, happy about some great ideas, and then in reality everything because a nightmare.

As a German, I know what I am talking about. Stuttgart21 (main station), Berlin Brandenburg (airport) - we get the feeling that nothing in our country works anymore. (And do not get me started about green energy, German engineered cars and their cancellation "for climate change reasons", Russian pipelines and our dependence (?) on them, the list goes on...). The "Pippi Langstrumpf" syndrome: the way I wish to see the world, the world shall be...

More and more, disasters strike.

Last week, I was on a "Lufthansa Express Rail", which was delayed more than 90 minutes (the train one hour before was cancelled), did not stop for whatever reason at Frankfurt airport even though it was supposed to, was overbooked (there is no system like at the TGV), the air-con did not work, and when I finally made it to FRA, waiting at security for almost 2 hours, most of the flights were cancelled as well.

So yeah, it sounds great on paper. Just do not count on anything when visiting Germany. It has become Italy of old (no disrespect), and do expect a strike when everything seems fine. And especially lower your expectations regarding German train stations. You are lucky if an escalator to your platform actually works for once. And good luck understanding those speakers saying something...

If you want to experience smooth train operations, why don't you fly to Japan and board a Shinkansen.......

In short: Forget about Star Alliance integration or benefits for you. It is really about Lufthansa, and when they cancel their flights again - now you can just find your way to the train station as the perfect solution - without a refund.

It is being done already with other airlines in other parts of the world. Just new to Europe and a major carrier.

Deutschbahn’s computer system probably can’t deal with the points side of things

Its a good idea, but as others have pointed out, long overdue.

Germany mainly Frankfurt set up a wonderful system about 12 years ago at the airport with the train and airport connected. Get off the plane and walk over the skyway to the train.
However as you say Ben, flying to Berlin would be a better choice because it is a 5 hour trip.
But if going more locally say to Dusseldorf in the north, or Stuttgart in the south, hopping on a train is better than flying.
Munich is an either/or choice.

However, as many German citizens have told us on the train, the govt money has gone down in support of the train system and DB is no longer one of the best. Many failures of trains, delays and missed connections. It used to be up there with Japan and Switzerland, but have dropped closer to England trains.

My understanding is that DB lounge access comes with a First or Business Class ticket. It's not yet completely clear, if this has to be on one of the codeshare services or same day connection ... but, anyhow, not *Gold.

Amtrak used to have a partnership with Continental which carried over for a few years post-merger with UA. It was primarily CO/UA codes on trains stopping at Newark Airport station so they didn't have to run flights from BWI/PHL/PVD/etc. to EWR.

The noteworthy part was reciprocal lounge access: Amtrak mid/high-elites get Metropolitan Lounge (f/k/a ClubAcela in the Northeast) access and also got CO/UA club access, while CO/UA club members also had Amtrak lounge access.

I recall many Jersey flyers doing hidden city tickets for Philadelphia 30th Street -> EWR -> XXX as at least on the return you could get off the train in NJ.

Something very unique and very helpful for travelers: If your train arrives late at the airport, causing you to miss your connection, you will be automatically rebooked onto a later flight.

But, I thought this isn’t the first time a Star Alliance member partnered with a train line. Didn't Lufthansa Express Rail began provide a combined train-plus-flight booking experience in 2000s?

Very disappointing. Not a member a lot, they are just slightly improving codeshares.

* at all

Disappointing. Booking seems complicated with too many if and butts. Would be nice if DB was a full fledge SA member. I would consider Frankfurt to Paris by train but will fly to get better rewards.

If this makes earning miles on non-flight segments easier in other *A programs and protect train-flight segments in case of delays (it's DB after all), that's indeed a great development. Because atm their non-flight segments don't seem to credit to other programs (e.g. XER-FRA). It would be even better as someone already mentioned if we can just earn *A EQM and redeem travels by using DB without being in conjunction with flight segments too.