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Canada Is Closed

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Updated: ago. As of December 20th, Canada is not allowing flights from the United Kingdom. Air Canada has suspended flights to the United States effective April 27th. As of Wednesday, March 18th, the Canadian > U.S. border is closed to to "non-essential traffic". Goods will continue to move freely, or at least freely-ish, across the…

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 Al
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How about hotels (non big chain) where cancellation policy has passed? Do you know if this qualifies for trip cancellation for the Chase Sapphire Reserve Card? I booked through Agoda and they had a 30 day prior fee free cancel policy which I am now in day 28 unfortunately.


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(@TravelinWilly)
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GREAT PIECE, KATE!

THANK YPU!


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Gold
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The Australian and New Zealand governments have now implemented a 14 day self isolation quarantine rule effective now for all travellers entering (only exception are Pacific Islanders into New Zealand). That pretty well halts about 90% of all Qantas, Virgin Australia and Air New Zealand international flights.


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 John
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I really have to commend the team at OMAAT.

It is my firm belief your suggestions are the right ones. This is the ethical thing to do. While I understand many bloggers rely on their blog to make a living, this is still not the time to push travel deals.


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(@beyounged)
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But for me and my family, we have to lose out, A LOT. My mother and I was supposed to go on vacation in Europe in 2 days, and Icelandair is still not allowing refunds or free changes. They waived the meager 200 dollar change fee but for our saga class, the fare difference is 2-3 times of original fare, so we either pay nearly 5000 dollars for a potential vacation in summer, or lose our money completely. I am not sure there are any solution right now, as my mother's insurer is not covering this kind of loss because Icelandair is still flying from Canada. I am still on the fence of going to just Iceland, but my mother has completely given up on ever getting the money back. Curses to FI!


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Diamond
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Peru has just announced closure of international borders from midnight March 16. Advice was DFAT (dept of foreign affairs and trade in Australia). Received an SMS from them.


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Diamond
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@davistev

Having people self-quarantine upon arrival doesn't mean 90% of flights on those airlines will stop.


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Diamond
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Also, Beirut is closing down it's airport on Wednesday...


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Gold
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@ Aaron
I should have said that the media is reporting that Air New Zealand is cutting capacity for international flights by 85-90% and Qantas will not be far behind. They have however committed to keeping a skeleton network for "national interests" whatever that means.

The reality is that n0 one is prepared to self quarantine for 14 days. It is by result - a shutdown.

I write this while I am in Quarantine in a hotel in Adelaide, Australia after being in Seattle.


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(@Preacher)
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How about travel to and from the US? Is self quarantining mandated for this type of travel?


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 Barb
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i am a snow bird in Florida and live in Winnipeg Canada. I have travel insurance until Apr. 21. Should I be coning home now?


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Diamond
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@ Barb

‘As Trudeau put it, “Let me be clear. If you’re abroad, it’s time for you to come home.”’

That sounds like a comprehensive “yes”.


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(@Claire)
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Just to be clear on the Canadian announcement today banning travel to Canada (March 16, at 1.00pm EDT,) the exceptions include US citizens. I find this incomprehensible given the spread of the virus in the US. Please don’t visit us, we love you, but please stay away right now.


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Diamond
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The Vancouver Sun website reports that the land border with the US is NOT being closed. It is unclear to me whether the land border will only allow Canadian citizens, Canadian permanent residents, and US citizens or will allow all people through. My guess is the former.


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 Pete
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@ Barb, my thinking is that the flights could dry-up real quick, so if you'd prefer to be back on your home turf, now might be the time. This won't last forever, though.


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(@Noah Bowie)
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Easily the bluntest title ever.

Could you post something about which airlines you expect to go bankrupt next?


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 Jojo
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There was a South Park episode where Canada went on strike and No one in the world cared. Very funny episode you should watch it


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 Owen
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They announced today that any Canadian abroad who has symptoms of COVID-19 are not able to return to Canada


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(@JetAway)
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@Claire-the Canadian economy could not withstand closure of the U.S. border for very long. It's not just tourism (which is important) but port access, manufacturing supply chains, markets for Canadian goods, etc.


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Diamond
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@al
based on this message for Hilton, it seems like if you booked Hilton, you should be fine.
"Government Restrictions. In regions affected by government-issued travel restrictions, we will continue to waive change fees or offer full refunds. Please see below for the latest information on region specific travel waivers.
Existing Reservations. All reservations – even those described as non-cancellable (“Advanced Purchase”) – that are scheduled for arrival before April 30, 2020 can be changed or cancelled at no charge up to 24 hours before your scheduled arrival.
New Reservations. Any reservation you make – even those described as “non-cancellable” (“Advanced Purchase”) – that are booked between today and April 30, 2020 for any future arrival date, can be changed or cancelled at no charge up to 24 hours before your scheduled arrival."

They are even extending expiration on reward night certificates and points.

https://www.hilton.com/en/corporate/coronavirus/?WT.mc_id=zHH0AA1HH2OLE3adhoc4MO1153x_AMEXFWNExtension__Mar5Hero_Body_6MULTIBR7EN8i89197&commhistid=73213215281816958&customerid=281816958&hhonorsid=272660737&om_rid=4657554476&om_mid=78370


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Diamond
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Moose out front should have told ya!


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(@WhyisthereonlyhateforTRUMP?)
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This is so heartless. I can't believe this little dweeb is closing the border! Complete mismanagement of this crisis. This is ridiculous. How will I be able to go see the northern lights?!


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Diamond
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I'm really confused at this time. I am trying to book a flight from Lisbon to Canada. All I see are flights LIS-EWR-YYZ.

I thought that only US residents and diplomats could enter the US since there are no sterile transit zones in the US.
Yet Canada is allowing US citizens to enter Canada.

Is this a quid pro quo or is Trudie being coerced into a special favour?

Is a Canadian allowed to transit through the US to Canada?


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(@Peter Brown)
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Jojo's attempt at humour and dig at Canada is an ignorant comment from a moron. Over to you moron!!!


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(@Peter Brown)
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Azamaraal, I don't think you can transit the U.S. to get to Canada. The new American regulations say nothing about it


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Big shout out to AS. Spoke to an agent in less than 5 minutes. I am very impresed.


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(@Reaper)
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Anyone else old enough to have the post title trigger memory of this old Burgertime ad?

Wait until the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjJ0Tl3WENQ


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(@Zhang)
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Details on the ban can be found at https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-canada/news/2020/03/new-measures-for-covid-19-response.html

These measures will be fully implemented in the next 48-72 hours.


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 Arie
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What canada and other countries are doing is necessary sadly. More and more scientific evidence is showing that this virus is far more dangerous than previously thought. Were days away from learning the real story and when it comes out it will shock society as we know it. The real mortality rate of this virus is over 100 times that of the common influenza. This is depressing and real, acting now can save millions of lives.

Yiu probably think this is hyperbole, but consider this, would countries around the world shut down like they have if it isnt this serious? The answer is clearly no. Were not yet being told all the truth, and perhaps that's a good thing because panic and looting is just around the corner. Expect to see military patrolling streets soon.


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Diamond
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I think the article is written quite well, overall. Although, respectfully, I disagree about the ideas speculated as to why U.S. citizens are still allowed entry to Canada. If the belief is that it is to permit the flow of goods, what would that have to do with individual American citizens? As seen in Germany, only commercial traffic is allowed. So, essentially you can limit the flow of individual traffic but maintain commercial traffic. I think it is more about Canada wanting to still keep the very close relationship with the U.S., so I would agree with the first assessment.


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(@Randie)
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We are in Mexico and have not been able to reach the airline. (Aeromexico). We were on hold for 4 hours and never spoke to anyone. We went to the airport today and the agent told us she could sell us a new ticket for $38,000.00 pesos, which is $2300.00 Can. For a one way ticket. How are we supposed to come home???


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(@Sidhu)
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In the beginning of Coronavirus Canada was sleeping and now suddenly imposing Strictest restrictions allowing only Citizens and PR to return by March 29 and thereafter ‘Canada Closed’.


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(@Joshua)
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Where is the outrage now? Where is the similar comments about it is stupid to shut down travels/border when you already have community spreading? It is so ironically to see how the comments here several days ago when US initially announced the EU bans hit by the reality.

BTW, Hong Kong just announced It will perform 14 days mandatory quarantine for anyone traveled outside of the city.

Just wait, the whole world will shut down flights and borders in less than two weeks. Case number is starting to jump in South America countries. Not a good sign at all.


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 Jean
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Why isn't everything shut down now???come on Canada keep us safe


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(@Nouach)
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Mauritania is closing borders and stopping all flights into nouachkott for the next 3 months and closing borders with Niger Mali and cocos islands.


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(@Nouach)
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Yemen closing all.borders it shares with Saudi Arabia and oman and Mexico affective immediately. They are concerned of MERS from Mexico reappearing in Saudi Yemen and Norfolk.islamd!
Terrible times on king island all flights cancelled including daily double EK king island to Dubai direct.
What will happen next?


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Diamond
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@ Joshua -- Canada's policy is actually equally moronic in ways. Viruses don't understand passports, so allowing in U.S. citizens (other than healthcare workers), when we have massively unreported cases here, is bonkers.

That is the problem with travel bans. Global bans might have helped with containment six weeks ago, but citizens have a right of return. Picking and choosing other people to allow based on their nationality versus their geographical patterns is silly.


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Diamond
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In another blog it was stated that the Canadian "ban" is allowing Canadians (citizen and landed immigrants), Americans, Mexicans and those from the Caribbean.

This makes no sense whatsoever and unfortunately is our PM's idea of being fair.

With US citizens trying to get home it is impossible to find flights from Lisbon to Toronto as the flights are full of "others" passing through Toronto.

Supposedly TAP is shutting down LIS-USA tomorrow Mar 18.

My booked flight is Mar 24. Is there any chance TAP will still be flying then to Canada? With all the flights full one would hope that $$ will keep them flying but who knows.

I really don't want to spend the rest of my life in Lisbon.

Please, Americans, fly home on United


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(@Pollypuzzled)
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Don't agree with allowing visitors from the United States. Hopefully they will elect to stay home
Trade yes visitors no. This decision is illogical and dangerous for Canadians..


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(@International Nomad)
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If you are already overseas, stay outside Canada. Wait until the rate of spread plateaus out, then return home to Canada. The PM must be having a panic attack when he made the "return home now" announcement.
If you are scheduled to travel within the next few days, the logical thing to do is to cancel. Even if you can get fly to your destination, you will be quarantined for 14 days and not able to go outside your hotel.
Crowded airports and planes are the last places that you want to be confined in for hours at this moment.


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Diamond
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I respectively cannot disagree more.

1. This is not the flu and will not be over soon or if even this year

2. If you expect to avoid the virus you are betting long odds

3. Do you expect a foreign country to prioritize you when triage happens in a few weeks?

4. Have you checked your travel health Insurance lately? If it hasn't expired because of 'act of God' it will soon.

If you want to stay where you are, then great. One less on the plane and one less burden for Canadian health care.


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Diamond
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Trudeau and Trump just announced that all foreigners including Americans will not be allowed entry to Canada. The longest unguarded border in the world will be closed between the US and Canada except for commercial traffic. Goods will still flow between the two countries.


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Diamond
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Australia closed as of 9pm Friday night (assume Sydney time). ScoMo (our PM) said

"We believe it is essential to take a further step to ensure we are now no longer allowing anyone, unless they are a citizen or resident or direct family member, [to enter Australia]," he said in an address on Thursday afternoon.

“The reason for this decision is about 80 per cent of the cases we have in Australia are either the result of someone who has contracted the virus overseas or someone who has had a direct contact with someone who has returned from overseas,” he said."


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(@DaninMCI)
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Canada is on pace with Australia in the timeline. Both are at about 700 confirmed cases but it's too late. They should have shut it down weeks ago. The cat is out of the bag as they say.


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 Ian
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Kate,

Shouldn't that email address be "[email protected]." instead of "[email protected]"?


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Diamond
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Canada was a bit slow off the mark ; surprising really because Canada, Toronto in particular, suffered quite badly during SARS. One would have expected Canada to take the lead, especially given the tragically farcical testing situation in the US, which was apparent very early in the piece.


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A word of warning about those phone calls, I thought I had coverage for long distance phone calls and was on hold for over a hour before I was just disconnected. The cost of this futile call? Eight dollars a minute on AT&T!


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Diamond
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Closing border is like social distancing. It is about decreasing considerably the amount of people passing/interacting at borders, not a full stop at the border. No one realistically expect 100% crossing/enforcement the border, unless you are in China or North Korea. Just like social distancing, the expectation is about 70-75% cut in contact/interaction. Social distancing= flattening the curve.


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(@therese zona)
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Traveling from Florida back to Toronto. Can anyone tell me how bad the border crossing is?


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Diamond
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Absolutely nothing being done about Corona when we arrived last night from Lisbon. Gave out a pamphlet.

Nobody at airport at all concerned. No temperature checks. No SOCIAL DISTANCING - had to tell people to back off.

Our wonderful PM says its not an emergency.


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Diamond
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@theresa

should have mentioned fastest ever transit from international arrivals to the bus. Less than 30 minutes all told but had priority bag tags. The new Nexus terminals delayed us a bit as they were different and I ended up taking my picture twice on the slip 😉


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Can anybody confirm or deny the rumor, in light of efforts to repatriate everybody, the CA gov’t will not reimburse Canucks who are seeking reimbursements for foreign hospitalization bills?


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Diamond
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@KK

The Globe and Mail reported yesterday

“We’re working with Canadian airlines to make commercial flights available for as many who are stranded as possible. We will also be working with other countries to ensure that our airlines have the permissions and other supports necessary to fly,” Mr. Trudeau told reporters from outside his residence in Ottawa, where he is self-isolating after his wife, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, tested positive for the virus.

“We won’t be able to reach everyone but we’re going to do our best to help those we can.”

Canadians will be expected to pay a “responsible ticket price” for their flight home, Mr. Trudeau said. If Canadians are unable to get on a flight home, he encouraged them to apply for an emergency government loan of up to $5,000 to help cover expenses they incur while abroad.

The loan seems to be the best offer at this point.

The Prime Minister encouraged all Canadians abroad to register with Global Affairs Canada so the government can communicate with them.


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