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Belavia's 2.5 Hour Flight From Minsk To Nowhere

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I feel bad for the passengers and crew, but otherwise this seems well deserved?

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(@Mauricio Matos)
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According to their website, they have cancelled all flights to EU and also Kaliningrad (as they would have to fly over EU air space to get there) until the end of October.


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(@Giovanna)
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Actually the EU closed their airspace to all Bielorussian companies two days ago. Just like they are ordering their own companies to avoid Bielorussian airspace.


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(@Klaus)
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@Giovanna: that is incorrect. EU is recommending but in the end each country is deciding if and when to close airspace. France was very quick while other countries wait so that foreigner can return home.


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(@That Guy)
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This doesn’t look like pilots/ATC being surprised (or failing to communicate), it looks like them testing their ability to enter EU airspace, and learning they really can’t.

That aligns with Giovanna’s comment.


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(@Mike C)
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Presumably Belavia could take a leaf out of Qatar's book when it was denied access to Gulf airspace, and continue to fly to Königsberg if they wanted to by tracking over Saint Petersburg then over the sea to get there.


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(@Aaron)
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Looks like someone didn’t pay attention in dictator school! (Taken from Reddit)


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(@Tim Dunn)
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According to another source, Air France's flight from CDG to SVO was cancelled because Russia said it was NOT overflying Belarus.
This could get real messy real fast.


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(@Mr Moon)
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The flight continued for the 2hrs+ to burn fuel before landing again in Minsk.

Only minutes before the Amsterdam Belavia flight had had no issues.

Considering that Belarusians cannot enter Spain currently due to Covid restrictions (unless they fall into quite strict exemptions), the vast majority of the passengers on board would have been Spanish trying to return home.

I still believe this action is the wrong step to take. It punishes ordinary citizens and not the president of Belarus. Why haven't we seen any diplomatic expulsions or recalling of ambassadors?

And lets not pretend countless other countries wouldn't do the same thing as Belarus did on Sunday (some already have - USA, Ukraine etc.)


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 Rich
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This is Belarus testing the boundaries, testing the EUs resolve, no question.


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(@Morgan)
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Belarus got what it deserved I hope these limits stick around.


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 Dan
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Good. If you are an EU citizen in Belarus, hop on the next train and get out. The country has committed state-sponsored hijacking of a passenger aircraft. It’s going to get ugly.


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(@Tim Dunn)
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Mr. Moon,
Can you list each event over the past, say, 50 years, where and when a country used military assets to force down a commercial flight that was solely overflying its airspace to remove a passenger, let alone a dissident journalist?


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(@CRAIG)
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In the larger scope of things it depends on how Russia responds. Since Belarus is essentially a vassal state of Russia the West's response will be largely dictated by how much they are willing to push Comrade Putin. Russia is non popular in the EU (despite buying a lot of natural gas from them) even in Poland with their storied history so it is unlikely you will hear about a lot of dissention. As far as the idea that 'other countries' do this - I would think not. The West may do this rarely for convicted criminals and espionage but journalists. This is like Khashoggi. The US should have done more if but trying to maintain a delicate balance with Turkey and SA. But my opinion of the previous administration's response to that is for another blog. Biden and Putin are supposed to meet next month after the G7 summit this may or may not be discussed in particular but likely will be a factor in overall discussions.

I am curious as to how many EU/Western citizens would be in Belarus aside from academic or familial ties I can't see why anyone would go there.


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 snic
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@Aaron: "Looks like someone didn’t pay attention in dictator school!"

On the contrary, Lukachenko has been paying a LOT of attention in Putin's School of Dictatorship. Lukachenko has observed Putin literally get away with murder outside of Russia's borders for years. The repercussions to Putin have been practically nonexistent. Why should Lukachenko expect anything different?


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 Mh
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"If only Belarusian air traffic control were as diligent about warning of closed airspace as it is about passing on imaginary bomb threats (in fairness, I recognize this these decisions were made at higher levels)…"

Haha 🙂


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