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Taking One Of Lufthansa's Shortest Flights (118 Miles)

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After flying Lufthansa Embraer E190 business class from Sylt to Frankfurt, we connected from Frankfurt to Dusseldorf on a Lufthansa A320 in business class.

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 NiCr
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The good looks GROSS and you cannot even select a special meal om LH group shorthauls. Even BA does better. Lol


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(@Kevin)
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Elderflower is a very popular flavor in most German speaking regions. It was more of a regional alpine thing but at least since 2010 it became widely popular due to the creation of the „Hugo“ Drink in Südtirol by Roland Gruber in 2005. And as usual if a flavor is popular people extend it to a level that is hard to digest.


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(@Germanrecession)
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Nurnberg to Frankfurt I guess is the second in line for shortest domestic dlh flight? I think they still operate this route?

Off subject. Why did dlh bring back all equipment types but not the old a320 models. They brought back the old 321s this spring, summer. I miss the 30 yr old a320s.


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(@Egor Kulikov)
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Note that 9 euro tickets are only valid on regional trains and not EC/IC/ICE. Also it is 9 euro per month for the whole summer, not just for June


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(@east2west)
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Flights like these are disgusting, especially when you have perfectly viable train options that are shorter point to point. People wonder why our planet is falling apart when flights like these are operating and people are willing to take them.


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 Mick
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We are moving to trains for all intra Europe travel atm. Too much risk with long security and delayed baggage.


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 Max
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In addition to this, elderflower is usually something that we Germans like to process as food at home, for example as a cold soup with semolina balls. Very tasty (and sweet). When I was a kid, all my friends parents would make this in the summer....next to beer, sausages and cabbage, this is another "typical German" food. Perfect for a tasting heimat menu 😉


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 UGC
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FRA-NUE? Yes they do, and it’s often full…


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Diamond
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Adding on to the option of a train from Sylt to Dusseldorf, Eurowings also offers a direct flight between the two.


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 Greg
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Europeans have standards when it comes to being able to eat in a civilsed manner when you pay extra for a service. Nice to see they are maintained.


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(@hudute)
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Whilst I agree with your conclusions in regards to short air routes in direct competition with rail travel, I think the conclusions you draw in your conclusion are more on you in this particular case.
1. Google flights searches for rail operator fares as well, you just have to search for cities instead of just the Airport codes like the site does by default. It shows me almost exclusively DB fares for your route when I just looked for it.
2. Lufthansa already matches their prices for air and rail fares (I can attest to that multiple times at least on the DUS/QDU-FRA route), at least for intercontinental fares. When I just looked at it to confirm, fares to NBO were even a bit cheaper when taking the train to FRA.
3. LH already gives the trains available a flight number and I can attest that booking the train as part of an LH award booking has been possible since at least 2017. Missed connections benefits as if you were flying included.
4. Integration with rail travel in FRA is already pretty optimal, I can check-in on the way from the long distance train station to the terminal and pick up my bag there instead of at luggage claim no problem. No carrying the bags for any longer than necessary. I would hate to have them through-checked as that would mean I could no longer "turn up and go" at the train station. Whats next? Adding a security check for a train trip? No thank you.
I don't disagree that rail integration needs to become better, but you couldn´t have picked a worse example imho.
Also: The 9€ ticket is only for regional trains. No impact on long distance trains like you would have taken. In my experience, long distance trains have even been a bit quieter with especially the normally ubiquitous drunk football fans having a cheaper option for their travel.


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(@Richmond_Surrey)
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KLM been selling train/flight tickets for years too, with code share flight numbers.


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 Jack
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I flew with Austrian from VIE to GRZ in Business. Flight time was 29 minutes and service was Superb. On the ground I got water bottle and small chocolate and once in the air they served me sandwich trio and small pastry together with coke and coffee. Everything served was in proper plates and glasses.


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(@Endre)
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Not you trying to justify a totally unnecessary flight.


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 jsm
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I was going to ask why not take the train and then your article reporter another reader beat me to it. Out of curiorsity I looked at bahn.de and found there is a 9:23 in the morning direct train taking 7 hours and 1 minute to Düsseldorf, with 14 intermediate stops. Sounds much more relaxing that dealing with the airlines.

But then, this is an airline forum.


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(@Deborah)
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We flew FRA-MUC and also had full service with a snack. It was maybe 30 minutes in the air.


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Diamond
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Amazing contribution to our environment!


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(@iamhere)
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It is very common in many other countries to make connections between flights and trains. Part of it depends if the train stations are at the airport and how seamless and simple they make it. Part of it also depends on people's perception and habits


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(@Geroge)
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I tried to fly Lufthansa last weekend and it was a complete disaster, I ended up taking the train because all flights to Berlin from Frankfurt were canceled. This airline has become third world at best.


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 Fred
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Ben, Lets hope the the ECO Warriors don't find out about this flight you took.
They are glueing themselves to painting masterpieces in Europe to protest gas and oil. They are stopping the M4 in the UK.


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(@David)
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What are you on about. That flight is shorter than most people’s commute? Get on. Get off. Move on with your life. Do you expect a special meal on the metro/tube/subway?


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(@Jason)
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Lufthansa has flown this route with several frequencies for years. It’s all connections. It’s how Lufthansa serves Düsseldorf. Not sure why that’s confusing or a shock. I’ve taken it many times and it’s always full


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(@Gregor)
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No, it is 9 euro for each month. You have to get a separate ticket for every moth you want to use it.


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 Dave
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And the 9€-Ticket is just for regional trains, the ICE thats operated between Düsseldorf and Frankfurt Airport needs a regular ticket.


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(@Christian)
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Hi, German here. I think the elderflower thing is really a broader German („Heimat“) obsession, not restricted to LH. In German supermarkets, for instance, you see elderflower tea, elderflower syrup, elderflower honey, elderflower yoghurt (!), you name it.


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(@Always Flying Somewhere)
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The service is more extensive than many U.S. carriers provide on a route of this lenght. Alaska "First" passengers receive a smile.


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(@Louise)
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Lufthansa is a terrible airline. I would advise people not to use them. They are an absolute joke, a poor company that won't take responsibility fir their mistakes.


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 JKO
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What a BS flight. With all the checkin and waiting I am 3 times traveled in between.


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 Gio
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Lufthansa already offers train connections from FRA to QDU (Düsseldorf station) sold in code-sharing.


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