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Lufthansa's Buy On Board Catering Saves Airline $0.61 Per Passenger

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In 2021, Lufthansa modified its inflight service on short haul flights, cutting free food and drinks, and replacing them with a buy on board menu. Have you ever wondered how much money an initiative like that saves an airline? Well, now we know…

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 Sam
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I actually prefer buy on board. I would much rather pay EUR 8 for a pleasant sandwich or salad than get an inedible one for free.


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(@Icarus)
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Still a saving of around 30million a year
It’s like telling someone that they only spend €2 a day on chocolate, which is €730 a year. More than enough for a ticket to New York on Lufthansa


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 Eve
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Pretty sure the €8 sandwich on aircrafys are also inedible…


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(@IntlBizTraveler)
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Sure you “crunched the numbers” on a per flight basis but your lack of business acumen failed to calculate on an annual basis, which is tens of millions of dollars. You make it sound absurd they would take such a step. You are absurd making it sound like change. Another misleading headline and article.


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(@Marios)
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To those commenting: Really??? Ticket prices went through the roof, and you are making justifications for LH nickeling and diming passengers to save a few millions per year which is really nothing for an airline of their size? Cheap, cheap, cheap…
Aegean Airlines has a new ad campaign to promote their new complimentary meals in economy class (their biz class meals have always been top notch). Cant wait to try them next month. Lets hope with extortional new prices starts a reversal in more airlines offering free meals again…


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 Max
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Have fun with the absolute terrible seat pitch on A3. The worst I have ever experienced.


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 Bob
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Who actually flies within Europe on LH, apart from intercontinental connectors, hub captives, and OPM flyers.
You can get an LCC, with more legroom or an exit row, same sandwich, all the priority stuff, baggage for half price of an uncomfortable LH flight.

There is a reason why Ryanair is growing, and LH is not.


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@ IntlBizTraveler -- I'm sorry if you're having a rough day and are looking for someone to let it out on, but it seems like either you didn't read the post, or you just chose to ignore what I wrote.

My business acumen failed to calculate that there would be an annual benefit to this? Allow me to quote what I wrote in the post:
"When multiplied by the number of flights Lufthansa operates annually, that comes out to many millions of dollars."

Could you also please clarify what's misleading about the post or headline?


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(@Icarus)
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True however millions do also travel on legacy carriers. LCC don’t offer connections and only point to point.


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(@N1120A)
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Well, that isn't universally true. Many LCCs do offer connections.


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(@N1120A)
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You clearly haven't flown BA in a row other than an exit or bulkhead. A3 Y is not bad at all.


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(@N1120A)
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Except the BOB is no better and sometimes worse than the included meal.


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 Ben
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Lufthansa.. it’s German for cheapskate


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(@NicktheGreek)
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I regularly fly EuroBiz with Lufthansa connecting through FRA or MUC for less than direct LCC airfares. And there's many people like me. Particularly families. LH airlines are often €100 or more cheaper pp on a route, which obviously adds up


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 Fil
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Meanwhile, Turkish Airlines is upgrading their already excellent (free) on board meals. Lufthansa: a true embarrassment to Germany.


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 Samo
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Catering is actually much better on Ryanair than Lufthansa. Not to mention that Ryanair crews are incentivized to sell, sell, sell, unlike LH Group crews which disappear to galley after first round of service.


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(@Florian)
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„In isolation, most changes won’t cause someone to book elsewhere.“

Honestly, I do. More and more. I was the most loyal StarAlliance fan boy. Flying SAS and LH. During Covid-19 I was forced to try new things since I needed to travel between Germany and Sweden. To my surprise, it wasn’t actually as bad as I thought it would be to travel Easyjet between BER and ARN.
They had a good schedule, with reasonable flight times. Direct flights. Then you discover that the service level for a one hour flight is actually not that much of a difference anymore compared to a legacy airline.
And then you suddenly realize that you are saving a heck of money, too.
Miles? Well forget about miles. The legacy carriers don’t let you earn any miles any longer. What is the point flying LH group, SK and the other carriers within Europe anyway?


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 Samo
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How many passengers would Lufthansa lose if they increased all their fares by one euro and included the food again? None. None at all. However, they are losing customers now due to being perceived no better than a low-cost airline by most travellers.

Food on board is the kind of feature that has much higher perceived value among customers than the actual cost to deliver it.


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(@betterbub)
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0.33 Euro per water bottle? Lufthansa should just go to Costco


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(@betterbub)
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That wasn't what Ben said. He is saying that customers won't book alternatives purely due to these changes. It sounds like you changed your mind thanks to other reasons and then you found out that the service level is consistent across full service and low cost carriers


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(@Markymark)
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Penny wise, pound foolish. What Lufthansa gains in incremental revenue is probably lost through alienation of passenger loyalty and increased frustration and anger with Lufthansa. The bean counters are so busy crunching their tangible metrics but they have no capacity to consider the intangibles of brand loyalty and customer experience enhancement, and how those can increase revenue.


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 Tim
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Idiots at Lufti messing up flying, I'm off to a better airline.


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 Samo
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Don't forget the free chocolate 😉


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Diamond
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I absolutely refuse to fly LH. They nickel and dime for a legacy carrier and even weigh and measure your carry ons.


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 Matt
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There may also be a cost savings in weight reduction, since presumably they don't need to stock as many drinks on board for each flight. Probably pretty small marginally as well, but it all adds up.


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(@iamhere)
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Reminds me of American Airlines and the olive back in the day. As someone mentioned you don't consider the annual income and savings.


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 RF
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My recent Lufthansa shorthaul was underwhelming. There should bring back a free snack.


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 Abzy
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Turkish airlines all the way


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(@George)
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Indeed. I choose flights based on times, seat availability and amenities available if the prices are close. A few dollars either way doesn't matter. Even twenty dollars more is okay for a better situation. Nickle and diming is a turnoff and raises the question whether they are cutting back in other areas too.


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(@Matrix.RX1)
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I recently travelled LX via ZRH and it is getting a bit odd: first, in Business they now serve a sandwich (!) on shorter routes (the one they gave for free until pre-pandemic). Second, they do not serve any BOB options on flights below 50 minutes, even if cold (thus ready). Third and perhaps most embarassing, they are advertising their bottle of water as "free". Btw. all of this whilst causally charging 1000+ EUR for said "short" EU flights.


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(@Matrix.RX1)
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ps. LX made 77 Mio last quarter.


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 Rene
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I have been on a few shorthaul LH flights recently and have never seen anyone buy anything. Not sure if this is included in the numbers, but the logistics of stocking the flights and then not selling anything must cost a lot as well.


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(@Hector)
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With outrages cost for airlines tickets its a shame that you have to buy your own food.


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 BK
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Typical penny pinching from Onestarhansa


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 Andy
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It’s neither about saving nor about making money. It’s just to follow the advice of an overpaid management consultant who told them that’s the trend to follow.


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(@jedipenguin)
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Airplane food sucks period. I bring my own or eat before or after the flight.


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 Alex
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What I hear very often is the argument that Lufthansa loses passengers because of bad service or these kind of decisions.
Well, more often than not Lufthansa flights are fully booked in Economy. They couldn't increase the passenger numbers right now even if they wanted to. After all we are at about 100% or passenger numbers compared to 2019 but only at 86% of the flights.
Thus, it seems that demand is still outstripping capacity.


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 Max
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Lufthansa has no incentive to improve because they are a de facto monopoly in the German speaking countries. Even worse is that the German govt facilitates the monopoly by having an unofficial and unspoken policy that Lufthansa is too big to fail. If LH were to ever face real competition it would be the next Alitalia. It would go through multiple bankruptcies and the German govt would rescue it again and again.


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(@Brianair)
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Lufthansa really is the AA of Europe.


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 JCDC
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Well, at 18M pax year that saves $10M. Well worth one less tomato. Kidding aside, just raise the damn airfare by $1 and give us one extra tomato. I wonder what school of economics these execs went to, or more likely, didn't go to.


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(@Traditional TRAVELER)
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I fly quite a lot. After cost-cutting I am looking for alternatives. The whole LH Group is no longer a grup of traditional carriers. My FIRST choice within EU is LOT POLISH and AEGEAN.


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