A couple of days ago, we learned how Lufthansa Group planned to announce some job cuts in the coming days. We now have more details as to what that will look like.
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Well likely as is usual in Germany no one will actually get terminated, rather Lufthansa will offer compensation packages and people can voluntarily leave
Yet they still trying to buy other airlines for billions and start more smaller groups of airlines! The whole board need to be replaced!
Its an old model being propped up by (declining) OPM flying.
When there is virtually no difference between LH and the LCCs, what's there to attract a regular non-OPM flyer who can get the same for much less elsewhere
Suppose they will undo a bunch of the airlines within an airline that are run arounds against LH labor unions?
The sad reality is that some of the best performing employees at non-German subsidiary airlines will lose their job to protect German jobs at LH headquarters.
Nice photo of the a340. The airline business is cyclical. Let this serve as a reminder to the profit sharing cry baby air stewardesses here in the U.S. that they are disposable.
I wonder if the people who will be cut will also include those who came up with and approved the allergis concept.
what’s happened for Frau Spohr? Vivian killed that poor italian girl in her BMW. you can hardly believe that she still remains Patron of the Help Allianz… the lufthansa NGO!
Oh no! Anyway! As far as i am concerned, shut down the LH in Lufthansa and have the swiss take over all operations.
real "I got mad that a flight attendant didn't want to sleep with me" energy in this post
“… cry baby air stewardesses here in the U.S. that they are disposable.”
And you wonder why all women hate you.
I am glad that I sold my Lufthansa shares for a slight profit at $11 a couple of years ago. It wasn’t a great investment and it doesn’t look like it will be going forward.
Honestly, they would do better to layoff FRA corporate staff and promote ZRH staff to run the whole company.
I wish the LH group would be managed by the same folks as Elisabeth Line in London...
Lufthansa hasn't been able to grow because its seats are still 2-2-2 up front.
No business traveler wants to climb over other people for those prices.
Fix the seats, fix the problem. United has better hard product than all of LH group.
LH's management team is completely incompetent and it's frankly baffling that they have been allowed to double and triple down on the same irrational actions and strategies. LH mainline has an effective monopoly on business travel from one of the world's largest and most globalized economy, plus a material share of leisure traffic from one of the world's wealthiest populations. Yet they can't seem to figure out how to make money running LH mainline - on paper it should be the most profitable airline in the group.
This is a management team that was pushing A330s (the most efficient long-hauler) to a new subsidiary while mainline had a widebody shortage and an inefficient fleet. And then using the subsidiary, whose only differentiation to customers is worse service and vague leisure branding, to fly to non-leisure markets like YYZ, YVR, MSP, ATL in place of LH mainline. The lack of focus on core activities is appalling, it's like if Apple couldn't make any money on the iPhone, and spent no time or effort on trying to turn it around.
At this point, they may as well scrap LH mainline and transfer all the frames to Discover, Eurowings, and City Airlines, as the foundation of their argument seems to be that it's impossible to make money flying LH mainline.
I've always maintained that Irishmen and Germans are the absolute worst people to run full service carriers. But if we're talking about LCCs then absolutely they are the best candidates (and I'm not making any jokes here).
The problem with Lufthansa is the original and core Deutsche Lufthansa passenger airline. It has nearly always under-performed the rest of the group, including Swiss, Eurowings, Austrian and Brussels Airlines, not to mention Cargo and Technik. These other airlines have always restructured to be profitable while Lufthansa has done nothing except launching subsidiary airlines like Cityline, designed to avoid the onerous labour contracts of the mother airline. This is no longer sustainable.
LH has to learn the basics of customer service. I'm a FQ of LH and other airlines and I can tell the difference which is striking. LH basically has no respect for those who ultimately pay their fat salaries. Boarding a LH plane is not a favor you do to LH. Before Covid LH was already non competitive. After, if possible, the situation hot worse. You get Ryanair service at the high price of a legacy airline. They survive only because LH is overly protected here in Germany. We do not expect a customer service such as Emirates or Qatar but just a decent service. They used to serve snack and drinks on European routes. Comes Covid and they scrapped everything. The water they served me during my last flight was even warm....
How about laying off those 60 year old overweight stewardesses and all the men! Make flying pleasurable again.
How about laying off those 60 year old overweight managers.
AI can make spreadsheets and powerpoints instead.
Another blatant example of how some type of people are provided with multitude of opportunities to continue to fail upwards.
At least I don’t have to look at those managers for 10 hours straight. The old women and men we do.
100% - this is definitely the biggest issue. After all, United is proof that with a solid hard product and good enough soft product (bedding, lounges, alcohol), you can have terrible or, at best, highly variable service and inedible food and still make tons of money.
Their lounges really need a refresh as well. They're essentially the same concept as they were in 2010. Polaris, Delta One, American Flagship lounges, etc. have all surpassed them.
I used to like flying Lufthansa but now try to avoid them if I can. You know it's bad when you're paying more to fly United on the long-haul leg to Europe to avoid LH.