Live: World Of Hyatt Peak & Off-Peak Award Pricing

"They don't change once posted." Do we have confirmation on this? Your site is very reliable but respfully I've heard otherwise on this.

@ Francois -- I heard back from Hyatt regarding this question, and got the following response:
"We want to give members plenty of time to plan, which is why redemption rates for free nights will be announced as soon as nights are available for reservations (usually 13 months in advance). There may be extenuating circumstances that would require point pricing to be adjusted on certain dates once they are made bookable, based on unique market conditions. However, we will try to limit this wherever possible, and will not charge additional points for any existing award reservation that changes to Peak."

So it sounds like pricing generally won't change, but it could in some cases. That's a bit different than what I was told when this was first announced, but it does sound like the intention isn't to change pricing much.

While I generally much prefer Hyatt to Marriott/Hilton, I've found the calendar feature lacking. I've been hoping with peak/offpeak being rolled out they'd introduce some kind of "flexible dates" feature so we could see award (or revenue) pricing for a month at a time. Doesnt seem like thats happening any time soon.

Big day today for the points and miles folks!

Arggh I was about to book 2 night stay at PH Paris Vendome for next summer at 30k points per night now priced at 35k! Was procrastinating, didnt realize it would go live now!

I did a few test bookings over weekends at a couple properties to get a sense of when the peak periods might be:

Hyatt Regency Coconut Point: Peak rates March-April, standard in May, off-peak June-October
Park Hyatt NY: Mostly standard, off-peak in March and August. Didn't see any peak rates

All in all, doesn't seem terrible and it actually may create opportunities for bargains to be had. YMMV of course

Not negative at all for me. I am a pilot and travel away from peak times and only away from peak times. Already checked and I see the Hyatt Place I love in Vegas went from 8000 to 6500 mid week. Lots of other properties around that I use went down. This is great for the off peak traveller

Are their promised calendar view online yet? At least give us a consolation prize? Its missing in 2021 is ridiculous now.

Park Hyatt Paris seems to have 30k still in place for shoulder season of May and September which is great. 35k for June and December. 25k for August which is a horrible time to go to Paris as a lot of great restaurants shut then.

I've already found on some of my upcoming trips next year that while the Andaz London is showing offpeak (April 19 - 25) the Hyatt Regency London is showing regular award rates. I hope that this is just initial rollout issues because I thought it was supposed to be by city and not by property for decisions on peak vs. nonpeak.

"That being said, since this is being done by geographic region and is being managed by World of Hyatt directly"

I see the same thing as Ekrem. LAX area in late April: Hyatt House LAX is 12,000 while Regency Long Beach is 9000 and both are category 3. Hotel Figueroa is 17,000 while Andaz is 20,000 and both are category 5.

I'm already calling BS on this being done by geographic region, unless geographic region literally differs by zip code...

Point about pricing being based regionally does not seem to track, unless they have a very high resolution system of geographic distinction. I am seeing multiple cases of hotels that are minutes from one another with mixed peak/off-peak pricing.

Examples (checking for early Apr, 3-6):

Hyatt house Shelton and Hyatt place Milford, both cat 1, 15 minutes drive apart. one priced at 3500 and one at 5000. HR Boston (cat 4) and Hyatt Centric Feneuil (cat 5), 10 min walks, both priced at 20K. Etc.

@ Tami -- Appreciate the data points. I've followed up with a contact about this, and will report back.

And NO promo?

I just checked hotels in Tokyo on Aug 21-21 stay. GH Tokyo is standard while Andaz Tokyo is off-peak even though they are less than 2 miles apart. I guess Hyatt's geographic market segment is very small.

I really dont mind paying 35k vs 30k as long as the availability is improved and i can book award stays closer to the trip versus having to secure my reservation 6+ months in advanced.

To be clear the "extra person" charge on all inclusive applies after 2 people. The rate includes 2 people.

Go to the map search and enter the location. Under each property, there’s a “Points Calendar”.

This works, thanks!

The calendar doesn’t seem very logical yet from what little I’ve seen.

For everyone who brought up inconsistent pricing within a particular market, I got an explanation from a Hyatt contact:
"We reviewed the properties that you shared based on reader feedback to ensure they were in fact in separate market tracts. To note, we utilize the global industry recognized Smith Travel Research Groups segmentation for our tracts. As expected, in all the below examples the properties are in different market tracts. Large cities can easily have three or more tracts, sometimes just a few blocks from each other. I know this might not be the news you or your readers were hoping for, but hopefully this helps clarify why there are differing point values for nearby hotels."

I imagine as well this could be reflective of events that are annual at the hotel? Thus why you might see these anomalies with properties so close to each other. Especially so at GH's given the amount of conference bookings they have.

I don't buy it, I think the base of their statement may be true, but individual hotels can adjust as they wish within those tracts based on conferences and events booked, which are often a year in advance.

Calala all standard except for 3 off-peak nights next October. Interesting no peak.

do you think the points refund will work if I booked a guest of honor reservation before the change? I booked something at 25,000/night that is now 21,000/night but it was a guest of honor reservation

Was curious how long it will take to refund points for awards that shifted to off-peak. At the moment they owe me 84K back. Like the pilot above, as an airline retiree flying standby, I try to fly at off peak times to find open seats so overall this new pricing system is a net plus for me.

"The majority of days are set to standard redemption rates each year"

Maybe at an aggregate level across all properties, but definitely not per property. Just check Ventana Big Sur - the vast majority of next year after March is peak.

So this is how it’s done. The three Hyatts in Honolulu (city blocks apart) vary how they’ll approach the new peak rates.

Both HR and HP are at standard award rates right now for January 2022. With the constant tourist traffic coming, I suspect they’ll be at peak award rates for most of the year.

The Hyatt Centric, however, now accepts points for award stays, but ONLY for suites. There are no standard rooms available for points at all, despite having inventory available. You can also opt for points + cash at booking but only for suites. (The HC never accepted points or certificates at all prior to this)

Remember...the peak/off peak pricing only begins in March 2022. All dates for all hotels b4 that should follow standard rates.

This is interesting because this means the HC will be (somewhat) accepting points for bookings soon, albeit for suites only.

Thanks for the clarification though. I missed that.

HC Waikiki does stuff based on minimum stay so if your looking at 2 nights vs 3 nights you will probably find different results

My husband is globalist and we booked Kaui Grand Hyatt months ago for May 2022. We used a suite upgrade award after booking standard room. The dates we are there are in off peak now (21k instead of 25k). However, his concierge told him we can not be refunded the points (28k over 7 nights) unless she cancels and rebooks. And since she said there aren’t any suite upgrades available, we would lose that. Doesn’t make sense to me since we would be releasing a suite upgrade just to snatch it back up. But I’m a little irritated that they are refunded the excess points.