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Etihad Airways A380: Routes, The Residences, And The Apartments

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Etihad Airways new A380 interiors look absolutely stunning, and will debut on the Abu Dhabi to London route in December of 2014. And my gosh, I think they've just put every other airline in the world to shame.

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 Amol
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So what do we book in anticipation of an A380 getting subbed in? 😀


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(@Jason)
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It will be like SQ Suites and get old quickly, then they will open the product to the rest.


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(@Kevin)
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Uh, wow.

These should be really popular on longhaul routes for celebrities and people who might normally fly a private jet short distances, but can't quite afford one with the legs for a transatlantic or transpacific flight.

Can you imagine being in one of these on a JFK-HKG flight?


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(@Charlie)
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Wow, but certainly not sustainable.

The London route would possibly be OK with all the Emirs heading out to Harrods, but as for the other routes... Residences would probably be empty, Apartments maybe 1 or 2. Business class will always be too full, such that sooner or later, they will have to eliminate Residences from most planes, and take off a few more Apartments too.

I think.


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I wonder what EK would do with their coming A380s. EY has taken the luxury benchmark to a whole new level, great for flyers with deep pockets.


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I would say very similar to Delta's Economy Comfort product. Maye a touch larger. 😉


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 Al
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1. Using Dannii Minogue is ridiculous. Shame on you Etihad, for adulterating such elegant products.
2. When in bed mode it appears First Class Apartment passengers have their head to the door? That's slightly strange. So if a flight attendant were to need to come in the first thing they'd see would be your prone head?


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 Al
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@ Jason, I agree. The novelty will wear off in time.

Though for such a beautiful space as The Residences you'd probably want to spend more than 8 hours on the plane!


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 Al
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@ Charlie, I can't see high premium loads on AUH-SYD. JFK possibly, but SYD I doubt.


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 VT
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Actually, there is only 1 Residence on the aircraft, which can accommodate up to 2 pax inside. This will be at the forward left of the Upper Deck, where EK typically has one of its F class showers. The ''double bed' feature in the Apartments is just a novelty, since only a small section of the divider between the Apartments can be retracted, so it's basically a double bed only from the shoulder up or thereabouts.

The big thing that some travelers may dislike is that alternating rows in both the F Apartments and the J studios face the rear, a bit like BA CW, and the pull out ottoman beds in the Apartments make you sleep sideways in relation to the direction of travel. I guess it may take some getting used to.


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Looks like EY has taken the most distinguishing feature of EK's A380 first class product (showers) and SQ's (double beds) and really trumped them.


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@ VT, thanks for the clarification! An interesting layout indeed...


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@ VT -- Whoops, thanks for clarifying.


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(@elsie)
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WOW! yes, wow.... now all they need to do is overhaul their ground experience.
The F Class lounge in and of itself is fin, but the six senses spa and the showers are sub par, then once you leave the lounge it is a catastrophe....
Easiest improvement would be lounge-plane chauffeur a la AF/LH.


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(@Daniel)
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I love the fact that the only way you can travel in The Residence is to pay cash for it. Now this is truly a class beyond first. 😉


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(@eminere)
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Lucky, here's a seat map from AusBT:


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(@Brian)
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It appears that "the Residence" main sitting area is in the same first class cabin—what you get is a private bathroom and sleeping area. They make it sound like you are fully separate from the rest, but you are not.


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 VT
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FYI, the seatmap is available on the EY site already.


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 Al
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@ Brian, I don't think so. Looking at the seat map there are clearly 9 First Apartments, and the living room, bathroom, and bedroom that make up The Residence are marked out at the forward left of the upper deck.


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I think it is brilliant. Look at Thai's enormous bathroom in the space that the Residence sits. Who would miss it being there? Most px don't even know its there. If you can take that space and generate 20k in revenue per flight, I think your brilliant!


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In your face, Qatar. I know that the objetives are totally different, but this puts Qatar's new A380 to huge shame.
As for the residence, the bed seems narrow for two people. I also can't see the point of it except for ultra-long haul flights or for celebrities or people that may chart a private flight.


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 Ralf
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Is it true some of these middle east airlines don't offer booze in flight? Please say no!


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 Bene
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Simply stunning, imho this is what the a380 was designed for. to make something truly incredible with all the space and be able to offer the most luxury while carrying over 400 people for small prices at the same time!

kudos Etihad!

P.S: @Ralf, Etihad and Emirates serve alcohol in flight!


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Interesting the video title is 787/Dreamliner business class. I guess that answers the question of what J class will look like on the 787.


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 Joey
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From looking in the seat map, it looks like the First Class apts also have a shower on the right side? Or do you think the shower is only for the Residence?


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Looks like they are giving out the residence on award redemption. But HOLY SHIT are they expensive! A return BOM-LHR cost 4.9 million miles + 2500$.


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(@cpyow)
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I think you should try a Kickstarter campaign to raise the $20K. I know I'd pay a couple bucks for the review. You have 16K Twitter followers. It should be possible.


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(@Carlos)
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I think that the China Southern crew would really appreciate to have a residence on their A380s.


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@Ralf

The big ME carriers (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar) offer booze in flight.

Saudia/Saudi Arabian (whatever it's called these days) does not.

@Ben

You mention that the apartment is >US $20,000, but is that per person, or is that for the apartment (meaning up to two people)?


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Diamond
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@Joey

The shower on the right is for the the residences.

As stated upthread, there is *one* apartment the can accommodate *two* people.


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Dannii Minogue is beyond annoying.


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 Al
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@ TravelinWilly, it would appear to me looking at the seat map The Residence and its associated living, shower and sleep spaces are at the forward left of the upper deck. And I would assume the shower on the forward right would be the shared shower used by the First Apartments.


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 Phil
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The Residence has their own private shower and washroom. The other shower unit (on the starboard side of the cabin) is used by the Apartments Passengers.

Too bad that these innovations in air travel do come at a steep price even for the 5500 km route of AUH-LHR.


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 Al
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@ Michael, couldn't agree more.


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 choi
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Lucky, have they load anything on the calender for award yet ?


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Do we think they are going to charge twice as much for two people to fly in the Residence? It doesn't seem like the extra person would be using $20k of additional services...


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(@Hobo13)
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Chump change lucky. Chump change.

Can't wait for a review!!!


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 Bill
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You know you've got to review the product Lucky! You aspire to fly all first class A380 products! Maybe you can book the inaugural flight!


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Diamond
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Wow! The Residence looks stunning but don't you all feel that it'd be more useful on a longer route? JFK flight would be better.

Not sure how to feel about First class. Having a separate bed is nice but laying sideways? And since divider only opens partly, SQ is still the only product with full double bed in the sky.


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(@collector)
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The gap between the have-too-much and have-breadcrumb is getting wider and wider... The evidence of class struggle could not be more obvious in 21st century aviation. 🙂


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Diamond
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The Residence can be had for 2.36 million guest miles and £193 on the LHR-AUH route.


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@ Ralf -- Etihad isn't a dry airline, they should offer booze on all flights as far as I know.


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@ Joey -- The First Class Apartment passengers do share a bathroom with a shower, while the Residences has a private shower.


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@ TravelinWilly -- That's a great question, still trying to figure that out. Believe it's per person, just not sure what supplement is for second passenger.


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@ choi -- They're not releasing any first class award space on the A380 at the saver level.


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@ Ivan Y -- Well and they do eventually plan to fly it to New York and Sydney, but when they only have one at first it's not practical to fly it on a route that requires more than one aircraft for the rotation.


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+1 to CP@WOW Kickstarter idea.

And since the Residence is for 2 pax, how about a draw for 1 lucky donor to share that flight with Lucky! (I am assuming the $20K is for both pax?!)


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 ryan
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please tell me they are charging extra for wifi in the residences.


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 Nick
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Recently while trying to book a flight to BKK from NYC I noticed that CX for my flight leaving Oct 6 returning Oct 20 is charging $27,879.40 for a first class ticket. And they don't even have a shower! 😉 So 20 grand for an apartment seems like a deal.


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 Joey
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From reading more about this, it seems like EY hopes to charter the premium part of its product (first class apts & the Residences) to families & gov't delegations.
http://www.thenational.ae/business/industry-insights/aviation/etihad-airways-goes-beyond-first-class-with-20-000-luxury-flying-hotel-suite


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Diamond
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@ Al,

You're correct, I got confused between "apartment" and "residence" and flip-flopped them, as these are certainly new terms for me/all of us! 🙂 But yes, "apartment" on the left, and shower+two lavs for the "residences" on the right.

This is going to take some getting used to, seriously. LOL


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 Euro
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Stunning, absolutely stunning, and looks extremely elegant. Especially compared with their current business class, which looks a bit cluttered. Presenter, however, annoying.

Interesting how the bottom level of the 380 is economy only. Upper floor reserved for those rich enough to pay for it, cash or miles.


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+1 to the KickStarter idea and @coalharbour's idea regarding contest for 2nd passenger to join you.


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 Rami
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@ collector;
this is no different than a small studio apt in Manhattan on the lower east side vs a penthouse apartment on the Pierre overlooking Central Park. I will never buy the Pierre penthouse and most likely will never pay 20K $ for a seat/bed/shower on a plane.

Now, if UA decides to try this out and allows me to upgrade with my GPU then it is a totally different story. Go residences on UA !!!


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@collector

At least when someone buys a first class/business class seat, they are actually subsidizing the cost of an economy seat to an extent. Yes more space on the plane is devoted to high-paying travelers and economy seats get more uncomfortable, but those high-fares make it more economically feasible for the airlines to charge more affordable fares in coach.

Building giant luxury condos for the super-rich to use as second homes in Manhattan, on the other hand, does nothing for 99.99% of the population and simply makes it harder and more expensive for the rest of us (even people making like $1 million+ per year) to live here. Same goes for London but to an even more disgusting level.


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Diamond
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Here's another vote for the kickstarter idea. I'd certainly pitch in; though, I'd be happy with a review of the First Apartment. And with the money saved Lucky could try out Transaero's Imperial Class! What a review that would be!


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(@thejeswi)
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Oh my god!!!!
It's amazing, loved it


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(@David)
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Am I the only one who saw the bed and thought 'mile high club'!

I'm surprised no one picked up on that.

*Gets mind out of gutter*


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 HR
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Benny, when is zha review coming up?


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(@Guy Donald)
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I'd chip in $100 to a Kickstarter campaign.

Guessing the +1 is gonna sleep on in the living room tho!


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Diamond
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Interesting use of the width of the plane in first. I've always wondered about the possibility of offering bunks, capsule hotel style cabins or couchettes in planes. Probably a difficult sell given that food service would be hard and, assuming passengers would have to be seated for take off and landing, there would have to be rules about when passengers were in seat/sleep position.

Bunks as a premium economy produce would be cool, though.


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(@The Global Traveller)
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Perhaps a speculative award booking for SYD route?

Has anyone looked into best paid fares into The Apartment?

I notice The Residence fares have steep cancellation penalties (20% up until 30 days before departure, 50% for 7-29 days before departure, 75% for 3-6 days before departure and 100% for less than 3 days before departure).


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 Jan1
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Looks very luxurious. And the concept of the A380 residences is exciting. Less convinced though that their A380 & 787 business seats will be the most luxurious in the market (as you state). They look very nice to me, but do not seem that very different from their current business class product (or the business class product from Air Berlin or Iberia, which all have the same layout). The Qatar Airways 787 business class is still - by far - my most favorite business class: http://theluxurytravelexpert.com/2014/04/15/flight-review-qatar-airways-boeing-787-dreamliner-business-class-bru-doh/


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Ladies & gentlemen -- instead of doing a Kickstarter for Lucky & one lucky reader, we need to think more epic!

@ Lucky - since Etihad seems to be willing to charter the premium product, can you talk to their media people to see if we can get the upper deck on one of first JFK-AUH flights? 😉


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(@Benny)
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Amazing!! Wow!!

But....

Why would they choose to show "Twilight" as the movie in the demo video? Found that to be an unusual choice. LOL


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(@HatingEtihad)
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Rolling out luxury offers.. ignoring the full fare coral passengers..
Luggage lost since 9 days and counting.. no response.. no compensation.. and a lot of negligence.. sad state of affairs..


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(@William Catto)
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One thing that may not occur to many people is that when you're spending this kind of money you'd actually like the flight to be longer than eight hours, so that you can enjoy the amenities and get a full night's sleep as well. I'd prefer if the plane flew a bit slower!


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(@Stephen)
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this is aint new ... Airbus has already given ideas to diff airlines how they can do modification to this big fella .. checkout this image ... http://www.aerospace-technology.com/projects/a380/a3808.html


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 Todd
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No upgrades?

So, you're a Dallas based oil executive who flies first class from Dallas to Abu Dhabi (starting Dec 4th) ever other week for a year. They aren't going to upgrade you even if the residence is empty? I doubt that.


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 Dan
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Obviuosly the price of The Residences will include some sleep wear right ? Now seriously, I´m sure some arab plutochrats who make shopping spree trips to London won´t have any problems flying on The Residences, and having their Rolls Royces shipped separately.


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 AJK
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Lucky - - I know that if paying revenue, it only costs a negligible amount for the second pax in the residence. Do you know if the same is true when redeeming EY miles? Is it 2MM+ for one AND two pax, or 4MM+ for two?


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They must focus more in economy class and make the first flight to new york and new your is far so the people can enjoy the flight but if hethrow it is half the destination people wont be happy of paying 49 thousand for this route


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(@Ismail)
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With all the brilliance in the upper deck they should haver certainly considered a comfort class on the economy deck. There is a huge gap in the industry for a comfort class. Surely that will be a big hit.


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(@Peter Devlin)
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I'd like to see what the actual Yoga mat looks like that I assume is contained in the leather Yoga mat carrying bag. Is this one of the amenities to take home with you?


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(@Flying Air)
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I absolutely love the design of these seats. I am so impressed by the color and the stitching. incredible design and look outstanding. Whoever built the seats had to be too amazing. I am completely taken back by the sheer luxury and eloquence of this new cutting edge style.


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