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Qatar Airways' Pandemic Recovery Advantage

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It goes without saying that the pandemic has been absolutely catastrophic for the airline industry. Most airlines are in a rather fragile position, and at best they hope that in a few years they’ll be back to where they were pre-pandemic. I’d say there’s one major exception.

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(@surfdolfin)
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Ben, unless I missed it, you failed to mention a "business travel" factor. ie: Where is business travel on Qatar's bottom line?


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(@Celine)
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I'm flying Qatar Airways nowadays, because they kept flying in the first lockdown in Europe. All other Middle Eastern carriers shut down their operations, so for the moment it gives me the most trust that you will not get stuck in your destination when flying Qatar. They flew months back and forth between Europe with empty passenger planes.


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(@shoeguy)
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A really great article and some very valid points. The ME3 is quickly becoming the ME2. Etihad's relevance (and prominence) in the group is quickly fading as it retrenches and licks the wounds of years of failed investments in all the wrong airlines. Emirates is the airline of the pre-pandemic, and not positioned for the post-pandemic world, which will see COVID remain a factor in perpetuity, and cause a much reduced demand for business travel and super-connector airlines like EK. Emirates still has a place and DXB will remain a global air hub but not to the extent it was pre-COVID. EK has the wrong fleet to thrive in the new landscape and you correctly point out, its business class, even with improvements, is subpar compared to QR. Qatar has smartly remained in oneworld and grown its relationship in the group, helping to fill a void.


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 Paul
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One problem for the airline was the strict entry and quarantine requirements for Qatar that are only beginning to relax now. For a long time almost their entire business was transit. Compare that to Emirates who have been able to bring tourists in and take residents out without much fuss for months.


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(@Tim Dunn)
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I have heard of countless individuals that have been able to get out of countries they wanted to leave because of QR's continued operations during the pandemic- so they have had an advantage there.

QR also operates a much smaller percentage of its network to India than Emirates which right now puts EK at a disadvantage.

Longer term, all of the Middle East airlines including Turkish will have to deal w/ Euro, US and other nation's global carriers that are not going to let the Middle East carriers gain the advantage they once had. The ME carriers grew because there was huge demand which other airlines could not accommodate or chose not to because of low fares. It is far from clear that dynamic will return any time soon. Middle East airline business models are built on carrying large amounts of connecting traffic to offset their relatively small local markets.

Relatively speaking QR will be stronger than other Middle East airlines but it is probablyl a stretch to say they are the best positioned airline.


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(@Martin)
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Complete disagree with your judgement, Ben. QR is all about ego and prestige, in the pandemic more than ever. Looking at QR's economics, one can absolutely put them in a row with other poorly run gvmnt-owned airlines. The only difference is that Qatar has so much more monetary power than the other states that run airlines. EK's bottom line has been in fact better than QR's in the last reports, as you know.

QR has -not- made use of their flexible fleet. Instead, they senselessly dump capacity into the market. It is insane to fly largely double daily DOH-ARN with A350/B787 and consistently less than 30% SLF. This is an overkill that reminds me more of EY under James Hogan. And just look at Al Baker and Antinori when they speak about "resilience" and "pride" - this is what QR is all about.

If one had unlimited funding, anyone could be a fantastic manager. And when Al Baker says that the coming support will not be a subsidy but instead equity, it's a joke. How do they want to increase equity if they already have 100% equity in the company? CNN and influencers will not be critical when he says so, otherwise Quest and Chui would not be invited to promotional flights again.


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(@SAN_POA)
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I wonder if the 2022 world cup will be a boon for QR as well. It might make sense to keep their name recognition intact, and leverage the less competitive environment to have a knockout 2022.


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(@PeterCS)
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I totally agree with the points above, in the article and in the comment section. What maybe have been left out is that Dubai remains a globalized, world class city, and an important business and tourist destination. With the demise of Etihad, Abu Dhabi will be also easier to reach with ground transportation from Dubai. Putting the World Cup aside, Doha won’t really generate as much point to point traffic. That of course doesn’t change the big picture, but it will keep Emirates strong


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 W
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This is a really interesting article and I agree with the above points. However, EK does have more O&D demand with Dubai and carries a large amount of the Indian Subcontinent traffic, with whom they have built up brand recognition. Therefore, it won't be too difficult for EK to fill up their planes once a vaccine is in this part of the world. But until then, I do think QR will be doing better.


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(@Sabine)
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Qatar Airways may be one of the best in the air, is great with its marketing spiel and its CEO is controversial and loves to boast but if things go wrong on the ground they are just a terrible terrible airline. And, not all the destinations they announce actually take off! Remember Las Vegas?

I also agree that Dubai with its very versatile economy and tourism offerings should not be underestimated as an important global business and tourism destination. Tourism numbers have gone up continuously over the years (pre Covid) and will increase again with EXPO kicking off this autumn. Emirates partnering up with Flydubai also opens up new destinations. Doha has the World cup coming next year but in general has less point to point traffic.

I think Emirates’ premium economy on the A380 will be a game changer, with some of the existing A380 also now being fitted with it. The A380 is still my favourite plane and I am happy Emirates will fly it for quite some years to come.

Covid-19 makes travelling still very unpredictable with plenty of border restrictions in 2021 and for me in the end it’s not an airlines’ market share but its great reliable service in the air AND on the ground that count! On the ground Qatar Airways is just not one of them.


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(@khatl)
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The other key point is that the Gulf blockade already had made Qatar aggressively review their cost base, cut unprofitable routes etc. The pandemic was an extension of that process that they could act on rapidly (vs every other airline having to spends months in a scramble to cut costs). In other words, they didn't fall as hard and incur huge losses, which leaves them better positioned to come out as travel picks up


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(@Sabine)
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@Martin
You are spot on! Could not agree more!


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(@DC Yukon)
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Sort of. I hate how they have started to offer a cheapened version of business class - no advance seat assignments and no lounge access. Why they felt they had to cut these limited amenities during a pandemic when flights were nearly empty is beyond me. I assume they will also do away with hotel rooms at Doha for discounted fares for long connection times once entry to Qatar is no longer banned.

I've never flown them in coach and have often booked "bargain" (still several thousand dollars) ultra long-haul business class flights when available, but this cheapened version means those fares will no longer be available, as the next highest business class fare is a difference of several thousand dollars (based on every destination I've checked). I only ever flew them for personal reasons, so it means bargains will no longer be available with the same standard of service. It is debatable whether I could put up with getting stuck with other folks in middle seats in a 4 seat QSuites configuration or whether I could tolerate 10+ hours at DOH with no lounge or hotel (unless Amex or Priority Pass offer an alternative better options). Yes, I got spoiled. Shame they decided to cheapen their premium product.


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(@Nick in Chicago)
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Best line in the article is calling out the most indisputable proof that the US3 are just as subsidized as the ME3. Where are all of those who were arguing in every blog about Qatar having an unfair advantage? Crickets....


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(@John T)
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The problem Qatar Airways will have for the foreseeable future is that very few people actually want to visit Qatar. It's fine for a 24 hour stopover to sleep in a proper bed but there's not enough to do there for say a weeks vacation. They can build as many luxury hotels as they want but that won't make tourists flock there.

Dubai is truly a destination in itself and Emirates will always have that advantage over Qatar.


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 Udo
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What DC Yukon said, I had them reimburse a five figure sum for four business long haul flights, given the lounge access nonsense, inability to book seats without paying a ludicrous extra amount, etc. Not spending the obligatory DOH overnight without lounge access. Weird time to eliminate competitiveness ‍♂️.


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 Jan
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I'm going to second/third/fourth etc the other posters here. Dubai is truly a global destination now, and Doha, and even Abu Dhabi, are just playing catch up. This is Emirates' biggest advantage. In fact, once restrictions open up, I might hit up a JFK->DXB in an A380 in the future!


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 Matt
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So glad I was able to take advantage of the ~$2K RT qsuites deal in late feb/early march 20 before the shutdown. Got to see Malaysia, Thailand, and Cambodia. Before they also “cheapened” their product as other users have been saying. The Qatar lounge in Doha is gorgeous. Was in the air about 24 hours each way but I have never enjoyed being up in the air more!


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 JW
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@Martin Rubbish... This shows how little you understand the dynamics of operations during covid, its not who the airlines are carrying but what they are carrying that makes them profitable during this period. Passenger number counts for nothing if you have a load of vaccines in the belly. QR has done an amazing job reconcelliating with OW partners and keeping in the air to ensure that people are able to reach where they need for all circumstances, that itself is already commendable.


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(@Sam A)
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They have earned kudos for keeping flights going even when national carriers (looking at you Qantas) abandoned customers overseas... but I still refuse to fly them based on the strip search incident in October https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-airways-passengers-strip-searched/ I'm really down to just Singapore Airlines for Australia as Qantas and Emirates both cancelled flights without any alternative and I'm still waiting for a refund from March 2020 from Qantas!


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(@Ben W)
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One of the downsides of QR continuing to fly around the world is getting themselves added to the UK's 'red list' which has caused quite an inconvenience.


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(@Martin)
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@JW the the bellies are not always fully loaded on QR. Let's see how economic their "resilience" has been once we get to see the figures are in their next annual report.


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(@The nice Paul)
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@Jan
I’m genuinely unclear why people think Dubai is a “global destination” while Doha is not. I confess I don’t know anything about designer shopping, so I guess that could be the difference (though Doha didn’t strike me as being short of extraordinarily expensive upmarket malls — including one built to resemble a classical Italian quarter, but which had air conditioning vents actually in the streets. The energy profligacy was almost unbelievable. But I digress).

For an old fart like me, Dubai has a branch of the Louvre and a couple of good galleries.

Doha has the Gallery of Islamic Art which is pretty much world-class, and a National Museum that is one of the best I’ve encountered, along with an assortment of other museums (and an unexpectedly brilliant national library), desert safaris and assorted falconry.

I found more than enough to entertain me for a long weekend in Doha, though I suspect a week would be pushing it.

What does Dubai have that is so much better?

Oh — Qatar is hosting the World Cup next year, covid permitting, so I expect it will get a significant boost.


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 Jan
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@The nice Paul
Burj Khalifa
Burj Al Arab
Dubai Marina
Dubai Frame
Dubai Fountains
Eating a gold-wrapped wagyu cheeseburger for the ‘gram
Global Village
Off Road Dunes tour
etc

I’m not particularly interested on Doha, if I had to compare it to Dubai. Yes it’s chintzy as all get out, but maybe that’s the point. Maybe most people feel the same way.
Bonus points for me because I am a fan of architecture


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(@Dominic Yeo)
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Qatar AIrways is bluffing.
They are not operating at the level that they claim they are.

And as for them taking stakes in other carriers. They aren't respected primarily because the way Qatar does business, its not right.

Paying for partner airline cooperation has to be really crass.

And Qatar AIrways can be noble and stuff, but the fact is that Qatar has questionable allegiances, they are not currently planning to help the airport fend of rising sea levels. And that Y design was an inftrastrucure blockade in the making for HKG, it will not solve itself here.


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