Delta Reports Better Than Expected Q2 2025 Financial Results
Suffice it to say that 2025 has been a turbulent year so far for airlines, particularly in the United States, given the economic turbulence that we’ve seen.
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It should be noted that Delta said domestic capacity will be flat to down in the fall. Delta is reporting modest softness with the lower end consumer. This will certainly not bear well for the ULCC’S.
a couple things stand out...
Revenues did not collapse as many have feared but passenger revenue was flat; cargo revenue was up, likely as a result of DL's growth over the Pacific and the move to using the A350 as the near-exclusive TPAC aircraft.
Premium cabin(s) revenue grew as much as economy was down on a percentage basis. Loyalty award revenue was up.
The refinery is not contributing to DL's bottom line - in fact, it lost money in Q2. It serves as a hedge and delivers little to no benefit when fuel prices are low. Still, DL will likely have the lowest fuel costs per gallon of the big 4 and probably most of the industry
DL continues to grow capacity faster than the rate of GDP growth
DL continues to pay down debt
DL's salaries and related expenses are up about as much as fuel is down. Airlines continue to shift expenses away from fuel to salaries. DL is using its leverage as the leader in airline compensation to put pressure on other airlines. AS and UA face significant increases in labor expenses.
DL's equity in other airlines is stronger, driving a big chunk of its non=operating income.
correct.
DL grew domestic capacity by 4% in line w/ its system capacity growth so they are putting enough new capacity into the system to make life difficult for lower cost rivals. AA and UA are likely to do the same
“ I’m curious to see how demand evolves in the fall…”
Not to just pick on you Lucky, but I feel like travel bloggers have tried to make this case/prediction for several years now. “Demand will fall off a cliff in the fall once leisure demand goes away!” Yet every year, the fall is normal. Remember that business travel picks up, and some regions (Italy, Spain, etc) have solid fall leisure demand.
In terms of the overall post, the economy hasn’t entered into a broad based recession yet, which I define as a meaningful increase in unemployment (in to the high single digits, like 8 or 9%) nor have asset prices seen a big drop (you would have to see say a 33% sustained drop in the S&P, Nasdaq, Bitcoin). When that happens you will see a big travel demand drop.
I think getting rid of change fees also helps in making airlines more resilient businesses. Before, if there was any threat of economic downturn, most people would stop booking airline tickets for leisure because booking an airline ticket used to be a huge commitment. With change fees gone, it isn't as big of a commitment as it used to be. You can easily change or cancel for no fee and get the value back in travel credits. At least for me, that makes a huge difference in my willingness to book non-business related travel on airlines despite economic uncertainty (to a certain extent).
good results but unfortunately their profitability depends on the moron-in-chief not starting a full blown trade war and wrecking the economy. hopefully the market makes him blink again
Its also interesting to note that economy tickets are extremely cheap domestically, even for tickets in late July/ early August. This also applies to transatlantic flights. I cannot recall ever seeing tickets so cheap during the summer. This will definetly not be good for certain airlines, including ULLCs. I also expect this to hurt Southwest and JetBlue, and it will be interesting to me to see how much it affects them.
it's not just Ben.
markets as a whole are a constant pull from both optimists and pessimists - both of which are looking to make money.
well-run businesses are capable of adapting to relatively predicable economic changes.
DL's greatest strategic success is seeing further down the road than its competitors and benefitting from those that fail to adapt.
I do second this as I have seem some pretty attractive close-in pricing for tickets recently. It looks like capacity was just a bit too high industry wide to sustain any real pricing power.
I will say DL's front cabin demand is very robust. From what I see, almost all of the D1 cabins on the West Coast go out completely full.
Regardless of what you think about their quality of service, it seems consumers are paying up for premium seats on longhaul.
@Lucky Allegiant is selling Sunseeker. Not sure if you passed on this one, but seems like your kind of post.
Not to larp as a socialist, but the saying that the rich get richer still holds true.
I think to the extent that leisure demand has fallen thats mostly the economy travelers. Front cabin premium demand holds extremely strong, with more and more high end leisure travelers. This is perhaps why we see UA, AA, and DL all increasing their front cabin footprint so significantly.
So even if times are more economically challenging, perhaps even for the broader majority, the top 1% to 10% remain as wealthy as ever, with an ever growing penchant for front cabin.
I’ve noticed this too. Domestic F fares are holding up (if anything they are even higher this year), but I’ve started seeing some crazy cheap domestic Y fares going into the fall, like a one way basic Y fare LAX-BOS for less than $100
I think the mass adoption of travel credit cards by high income travelers and the Gen Z and young millenial travelers who have given up on ever buying a house (or are open to buying one someday but in a cheaper country) has created a permanent "lock-in" effect similar to the rollout of corporate-sponsored 401K plans decades ago. The low redemption rate of points for cash (if available at all) provides a strong incentive to use points for premium travel, even during downturns. Young travelers face parental pressure to reduce "unnecessary" expenditures during hard times, but they can justify using points for travel to their parents because of the difficult-to-convert nature of these points.
Two other factors are worth noting: obesity and social media. Many Americans gained 30-40 pounds during restrictive Covid lockdowns (especially in politically blue states and cities) and are still struggling to lose all of that extra weight. For these travelers a premium cabin is now a necessity, not a splurge, until they can lose the weight. Social media and travel influencers have increased information about travel to young travelers. Young travelers are more knowledgable about premium travel options than prior generations were at the same age. Instead of going to an overpriced Disney World for the fourth time, they may instead go to Dubai, Ibiza, or Thailand.
the economics also show that a growing number of people are using the GLP weight reduction drugs with Lilly winning the race even though they were 2nd into the market with a new generation drug.
and there are plenty of healthy weight people that are flying in premium cabins and there are plenty of of overweight people in coach. In fact, it might be because they consume less of their budget that they can afford more for travel.
DL was asked about a super premium card -which Ben has mentioned - which they did not address - as well as an increase in premium cabin capacity in order to keep upgrades coming. They clearly recognize that keeping the "hope" of upgrades out there has to exist in order to propel loyalty programs.
And the much sensationalized downturn in expected travel? No effect then?
Gen Xs and Gen Zs are not fan of credit cards. More often than not, they use other payment methods such as BNPL for their large dollar purchases.
I don't have any data to back this up, but personally, I 100% agree with it. I often have multiple trips booked, months ahead of time. Something I never would've done in the days where every modification was a fee.
I think the airlines have learned about diversifying their revenue.
For example: we've seen them offer very cheap economy fares that include almost nothing to compete with the so-called discount airlines
For example: they are make decent money on other revenue sources such as fees, partnerships, frequent flyer points, memberships, etc which has become a focus too.
GenX here... my friends and I use our cards and never use BNPL. Not sure where you came up with that stat.
Anthony, that's not the definition of a recession -- it's two consecutive quarters of economic contraction. That level of unemployment is a MAJOR recession.
completely agree. My booking patterns changed dramatically without change fees to the benefit of the airlines and me.
