Alaska Airlines Expands Salt Lake City Flights
Watching the evolution of the Alaska Airlines and Delta Air Lines partnership in Seattle has been fascinating, quickly turning from an episode of Millionaire Matchmaker to one of Jerry Springer. It got serious last year when Delta announced huge international expansion out of Seattle, which Alaska was justifiably excited about, since they were being tapped…
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Hi Lucky. I was wondering: If I book an LAX-SEA flight (Alaska Airlines) on Orbitz, will I still get double miles from the promotion? I've already signed up for the promo. Thanks.
@ derek -- Assuming the flight is marketed and operated by Alaska Airlines then I believe you would qualify.
I can't agree with you on Delta not acting in "good faith." You seem to be suggesting that the Delta and Alaksa partnership essentially includes an agreement not to compete - such an agreement would normally violate US antitrust law without an exemption.
Could this push Alaska into a closer relationship with their other domestic partner? American will still be weak on the West Coast and the Northern Rockies post merger?
Lucky I think you might be wrong on this one. SAN is becoming bigger for AS with those flights to HI and is a real possibility that they can build a following there. They already own North/South, HI is well established (a lot better than driving to LAX), have flights to BOS and MCI and will likely continue to add service to the East Coast.
Think of this service as to SLC for people already dedicated to AS rather than from SLC for people committed to DL.
@ sunny -- I would definitely think so. The way I see it, either Alaska and Delta will merge (though at this point I don't see the DOJ approving that), or Alaska will get into a much closer relationship with American.
I am not so sure we know the whole story. I suspect there are things that both sides would cite. What seemed like a realistic win/win looks like it could morph into win/lose or lose/lose. The final chapter hasn't been written yet.
Obviously there is a competitive message to DL in these flights, and if AS wants to hurt DL revenue it can offer low fares on these routes. However, I think the service does have some potential connectivity benefits for the AS route network. AS operates a raft of Mexico flights out of LAX, and the LAX will connect to the Mexico service. Out of SAN & SJC, AS operates a bunch of Hawaii flights, and the SLC flight times will connect to those, and they are both min-focus cities for AS. And AS has connections over both PDX and SEA. So all of the flights do create some new connecting opportunities.
If AS really wanted to raise the middle finger, they'd need to add more ATL flights, and maybe MSP, DTW and JFK.
Whats wrong with Alaska giving DL a taste of its own medicine? DL has always scheduled flights at about the same time as B6 and FL. They always seemed to try and siphon just enough off these two carriers to make their loads less then capacity. Seems to me.........
The day we see Alaska go toe-to-toe with DL on the SEA-ATL flights is the day they stop code sharing with each other I am 100% sure of that yeah this is Alaska saying we are mad at you but we still like you but if they go toe-to-toe with DL to ATL its now we hate you
3 daily SEA-ATL is the move AS has to make if they really want to send a message. I don't think they'd have enough flow to support LAX-ATL
I think you're missing one thing that actually makes this not so crazy. Take a look at the three non-hub routes they're adding: Los Angeles, San Jose, and San Diego. Alaska isn't just s SEA / PDX hub airline... it runs a LOT of flights to Mexico / Hawaii from those cities. So while SLC itself might not make THAT much sense, the routes they added from there do.
From a business POV they should have selected Provo instead. From my POV, I'm with Jeff - thrilled about more Avios options to SLC!
@ Kevin -- To be clear, I totally get why the flights are from San Jose, San Diego, Los Angeles, and Portland. My confusion is over the fact that they could have launched service from those cities to anywhere, yet they chose Salt Lake City. That's the bad move, in my opinion.
I am really happy with this move. We currently drive SAN to LAX to use Avios to go to SLC and we do it 3-4 times per year for a family of 5. This is going to be so nice to go direct from SAN.
It would be nice to see SAN-ATL service on AS! Maybe it could work with some connecting traffic to/from FAT and MRY.
It's all part of a guise to for it to seem like DAL and AS are feuding, when in fact, they have a backroom deal. They are trying to fool the feds and competitors to stay away and then CHOMP DAL and AS will take the NW along with NE and form one company.
Tagging on to what Steve stated - There will be SLC-SAN flights that connect to AS's service to Lihue, and the morning flight that connects with their flight to HNL. Too bad they can't coordinate the return from HNL and flights to Maui.
Perhaps a little project for the AS schedulers. Their terminal at SAN is ridiculously convenient to connect at.
Sorry Carl - I see I'm late to the party on my last comment as you're all over it already!
DL is also specifically targeting SEA flyers with large credit card bonuses (if you spend a TON of $ flying DL).
I'm curious about all these CR7 flights. Where are the planes coming from? Obviously they're Skywest, but Alaska has only a handful of those contracted for longish thin routes like SEA/PDX to Long Beach. So is Alaska bringing an extra plane or two on board, or is it cutting some other CR7 flying?
As a SLC resident interested in Avios to SAN, SJC LAX, I am disappointed in the flight times. These new flights are obviously meant for connecting to/from Hawaii.
Alaska's announcement didn't make any mention of changes to other CR7 flying. So there's no way to know if AS will cut some of the present CR7 service, which I believe also includes SBA and FAT, as well as LGB, or replace some of it with 737 flying, or is increasing the number of CR7's which SkyWest will operate for them. I'm sure SkyWest would be more than happy to operate more CR7's for AS!