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Cathay: New "Premium Lifestyle Travel Brand"

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While some airlines are starting to see a rise in passenger demand, Cathay Pacific continues to suffer, with Hong Kong’s borders more or less remaining closed. So the airline is looking elsewhere to generate revenue, in the form of a new ”premium lifestyle travel brand.” This change is pretty smart, if you ask me, even…

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(@Eskimo)
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New branding isn't here to simplify.
It's an excuse to devalue.

I don't need my miles to redeem overpriced golf balls or fancy restaurant meals when I can use my (discontinued?) Citi Prestige for x5 earning.
I still need my miles so I can enjoy Krug and caviar over the Pacific.

Airline rewards will become so bad, it's a 0.1% cash back program every airline.
Until one brave airline says we will give better value reward by giving out what cost them marginally but worth to flyers more than 0.1% , an empty seat which the cost is fixed based on geographical area for simplicity.
And civilization has reached full circle.


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(@Adam L)
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Hong Kong is dead. The CCP killed it. Very sad.


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 Tom
(@Tom)
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We like Cathay Pacific airlines and would live to visit Hong Kong as a vaccinated tourist, but the government has blocked us from visiting. Are they trying to starve out Hong Kong from tourism?


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(@Unhoeflich)
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They will be releasing a new app so members can report other passengers who say non-patriotic things about China. /s


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(@DeePee)
Joined: 9 years ago

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Been to HKG 100+ times (quarterly since the handover).
My ex-pat and local pals there have been trapped for over a year even though cases are near zero.
The goal of the lockdown is clear. The CCP is going to use it as an excuse to limit freedom of movement.
I've got a friend who is married to a Cathay pilot. She says the morale of the corps is extremely low due to the lack of work, the grueling flight schedules and quarantine rules, and the transfer from leisure to cargo flights.
HKG will have no choice but to reopen soon or their economy will collapse.
And that may be the CCP's strategy...
A dependent HKG is a compliant HKG...


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(@Freedomlover)
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America is dead. The GOP killed it. Very sad.


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 Chan
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Collapse? It's quite obvious that Hong Kong is not a country that depends on tourism.


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(@Jenni Lee)
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@DeePee
As an American living in HKG, I can assure you that the economy will not collapse and has shown little sign of slowing down. There are no restrictions to our freedom of movement and we have not even had any lockdowns like Taiwan or Singapore. Your expat friends have the choice to leave for good if they are unhappy with the current regulations. The airport is open and there are flights operating to many popular destinations.


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(@Free Hong Kong)
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1 report and you make Marco Polo green. 10 to make silver, 25 for gold and 50 for diamond.

3x points for each successful conviction from your reports. /s

Seriously, for those who claim to be “woke”, how they refuse to acknowledge the atrocities going on in Hong Kong for the last 2 years is beyond appalling.

Sure, one is free to support the authoritarianism and totalitarianism CCP is imposing in Hong Kong and other parts of China. One doesn’t have to support liberty and democracy. But one can’t be rooting for totalitarianism / authoritarianism and be woke at the same time. Someone who is that bipolar needs to be locked up in a mental institute. Medication is not enough.


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(@Geezer Ed)
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Conventional operation + large helping of BS = "lifestyle" operation.


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(@scottz95)
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So essentially, their new strategy is to copy Qantas? Qantas has had this approach for years where it has pivoted from being a travel brand to a lifestyle brand with a range of ancillary services whitelabeled under their brand (Various personal insurance products, Wellbeing challenges, wine club, shopping, dining, etc) and has a points-earning integration on them whilst collecting commissions for brand use from the underlying product issuers. This is in addition to credit cards and travel related brands.

It’s been pretty successful admittedly. Pretty sure total revenue for Loyalty last year was about $350M and profitable despite the rest of the airline taking a bath due to the pandemic.


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(@LetsUnited)
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America is dead. The GOP killed it. Very sad.
Hong Kong is dead. Also because of the GOP killed it. Very sad.


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(@Apsø Eyot)
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I... am scratching my head. I still don’t quite get what this is supposed to be. Does this mean the end of Asia Miles and Marco Polo or merger of the two into this new “Cathay” lifestyle brand? For the shopping part, is Cathay going to be launching merchandise like fashion items with its brand on it or something? Will they be producing the amenity kits onboard their flights? How would the non-product stuff, like wellness programs, under this new brand work exactly, and how would it be different than before? Kind of bored but also genuinely curious right now.


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(@Philip Elliott)
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If an airline has a successful loyalty program, it can borrow against that asset . The confusing structure of the Cathay loyalty scheme meant other airlines have an advantage in being able to borrow money at low interest rates.


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(@G.Orwell)
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CX is now controlled by the Communist regime who sit on the Board and have the final say in all decisions. Any body travelling on CX must realise their details are shared with the Communist Police in HK and you risk arrest upon arrival in HK if you have ever criticised the CCP


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(@Scott M)
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Not difficult to pick out the CCP trolls in this thread is it?

This program is a crock of shit, feel bad Hong Kong.

We all know that dictatorships are crushing their societies.

To attack GOP in cheap shot is pitiful and shows that freedomlover is neither for freedom or love.

True America will never surrender. It is set up like the internet. Decentralized and self regenerating. Don’t bet against USA to once again save the world.


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(@Phil Y)
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I couldn't get what this video's point - looks to me it is trying to make a picture of modern/healthy/fashion living style but the whole video could be viewed as have nothing to do with an airline......


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(@Caleb)
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What a meaningless, vapid video. What does this demonstrate?


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(@Creditian)
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Cathay Dining;
Cathay Shopping;
Cathay Travel;
What else?


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(@Mike1957)
Joined: 10 years ago

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Rebranding under the Cathay name makes sense: having three brands for three programs is confusing. But the PR seems all fluff and nothing new of substance: getting award seats is very hard compared to competition, will that change? Their non-mile awards are uninteresting with little true value. Will that change?


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(@Mike1957)
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Admin: why allowing so many irrelevant political comments?


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 TC
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Actually, the first thing that came to my mind is not whether the miles needed for flights will increase (more likely than not - kinda have to accept it, like inflation), but whether all the points I have stashed in credit cards can continue to be converted to Asia Miles (or whatever they will call it in the future).

Actually, if they reduce the miles needed to redeem other things like hotel stays (I did that once in my younger, more naive days, for Shangri-La Singapore no less), cinemas, spending vouchers, etc., it might make for a better "lifestyle" programme?


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(@Wilhelm)
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Sounds exciting. Assume your social score will decide which level you can achieve?


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 Anon
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AGREED!


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