The 777X is Boeing’s new flagship aircraft. While the jet was initially supposed to enter commercial service in 2020, that timeline has been pushed back considerably. With each year that passes, it seems that entry into service for the plane is pushed back by an additional year.
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I am happy it is delayed, the longer the wait for another slave ship, the better. The front of the jet will be nicer but the back will be full of packed in and uncomfortable passengers.
Would be nice to know "Why?" the certification is delayed. Engineering issue? Supply side problems? Logistics of the certification process?
Had to dig deeper - airwaysmag reports that this is a "certification delay of several months" so the delay probably just pushed from late 2026 to early 2027, changing the last number of the year and grabbing more headlines. They went on to report that Boeing has repeatedly said the latest delay is tied to the certification process rather than a newly discovered technical issue.
So the FAA is being extra cautious, perhaps, causing this latest delay? If so, that's not so bad a thing. But it sounds like a paperwork delay more than anything.
The year is 2100. Humanity's second moon colony is being settled. Global average life expectancy just hit 102. We have discovered a cure for almost every illness ever known. The Boeing Corporation has released a press release that the 777X will commence deliveries from 2101...
Does Boeing pay any sort of compensation to airlines waiting for it? The airlines have to keep older planes in service, do maintenance on those planes they weren't expecting to do, not be able to grow as planned? Or is this just the way it goes?
They should've just redesigned the aircraft on scratch with a fuselage made of composite and a brand new wing.
If there weren't only the two suppliers of wide bodies on the planet, Boeing would've been out of business.
"Does Boeing pay any sort of compensation to airlines waiting for it?"
I would assume significant discounts on future orders. When CX topped up their 779s, there were significant discounts.
When it comes to aircraft technology like this, I imagine the pace of innovation is slower because of the duopoly, but when the planes are delayed 7+ years, don't the planes become far less competitive and cutting edge? Won't Airbus have had a lot of extra time to do R&D of their own?
This is like the same w/ Allegris, it would've been a solid seat maybe 6 years ago when it was supposed to happen, now it's average to below average at best.
Boeing is in some real doodoo with this program, as they already have > a couple dozen frames sitting in storage that will require extensive upgrades to make them airworthy.
Add that number to the zero planes delivered, and one can only wonder how long it will take them to turn a profit.
Has Boeing started to take engineering seriously again? Or will they be beta testing the 777X on paying pax, just like the 737MAX?
@betterbub. Everyone else looked to the future & told Boeing they were nuts to upgrade the 737 to MAX spec and they did that anyway. Tweaking the 777 airframe & now they've learned another harsh lesson. Boeing made some massive mis-steps over the last couple of decades unfortunately.
Sure, but they would have been stupid to start a project they didn't think would make them money. If they knew the delays would get this bad they wouldn't have been so stupid
and LH announced that their new 777X aircraft will be equipped with a revolutionary Allegris middle suite with doors on both sides!
Where did Boeing say they were going to deliver the 777x in 2026. Is there somewhere they said that publicly? This is a couple months of delays. Ben is writing like Boeing has said it will take another one year. According to your own article The FAA said they’ll be done with certification in early 2027. Boeing said deliveries will begin in 2027. So what exactly are we complaining about again?
And after much thought, Boeing has stated that it will be 2300 before the tech is ready for a 757 replacement.
I actually think at this point, many airlines would pick a new solid but simple workhorse like the old pencil, over much greater fuel savings but unreliable innovation and overly complicated systems.
@ Opus -- I never claimed that Boeing said they were going to deliver 777Xs in 2026, just that the plane would be certified by then. I suspect this represents a delay of a minimum of several months, given that previously October was targeted for certification.
When we're within a year of the plane allegedly entering service, I think an additional delay of several months is newsworthy.
Well - they did announce that the aircraft would enter into service in 2019… nope 2021…2023….oops I meant 2024…. Scratch that I meant 2025 and oh just kidding… we meant 2027 all along and given the pace of the certification… even that’s unlikely.
Seems fitting to rename to “Boing” cause that’s what it’s gonna take to spring this program into shape and pace. It’s almost like Boeing forgot how to make planes after the 787.
One is ever hopeful that none of the Boeing fanboys are holding their breath for their first flight on this beleaguered aircraft. The reality is that nothing is guaranteed as far as Boeing ever completing this project is concerned.
It was due to be certified in October, according to who? Boeing never said that, i haven’t even heard or read that anywhere from any airline.
But ultimately what does An October 2026 certification do vs January 2027 certification at this point? It’s already 7 years late and the plane was never scheduled to be delivered in 2026.
Kelly Ortberg literally said 2 days the certification flights will still finish in 2026. Only ETOPs extends till next year. ETOPS takes 3 weeks btw. In case you didn’t know
The psychology behind aviation geeks' inability to accept that the 757 has already been replaced in/by the market, needs to be studied.
There's next to 0% chance that Boeing won't complete and certify this product.
At what time, or with acceptable performance, dispatch reliability, and perhaps even overall safety? Those are still questions.
Immortal you are clearly incorrect and need to do your own studying, if it has been replaced, why is it still flying at over 30 years old? All Boeing airlines are having to change their policies over this.
Meanwhile barely 15 year old a380s (great plane to fly in) are scrapped and retired even with this delay.
Slave ship? So Boeing plans to forcibly take people from their homes, transport them across the ocean to a strange land, and force them to work under penalty of harm or death? That's an interesting corporate strategy.
This is clearly an attack and bribery by the Europeans and Airbus to keep Boeing grounded. The Trump administration should ban all Airbus plane in US airspace going forward until this attack stops.
@TravelinPenis
See what happens when you give your Orange Man obsession a break?? You actually begin to make sense and have perfectly valid points...Refreshing, isn't it?
That strategy has worked for the Middle Eastern and African tribal leaders for centuries. It continues today in many parts of the third world too. It might not be called “Corporate Strategy” but the principles are the same.
Can we maybe consider the use of the term “Emirates new First Class”.
When your child turns 10, even if they are your youngest, you don’t call them the new addition to the family. The Emirates product will be over a decade old by the time the first Emirates B777X takes to the skies. In my mind Emirates should be in the process of designing a newer version.
Not blaming Emirates… clearly not something they took into account back in 2014 or 2015, before wars and pandemics.
I've been saying it for the past 4-5 years.
This plane will NEVER be certified.
That's all!
I think you've obviously skipped your meds for a few days. Somebody call the nurse...
The real question is how much profit Boeing will make from any of the aircraft currently on the order book, given the compensatory discounts demanded by airlines that have already spent years tapping their metaphorical feet in frustration at these seemingly endless certification and delivery delays.
That can be easily fixed.
Any airlines flying into the US must use a Boeing otherwise they cannot fly in.
They are not allowed to take any compensatory discounts or any discounts they receive are then taxed by the US government and fed back into hiring real Americans.
Our country is the greatest in the world and if people want to continue visiting us, they they fly the safest planes into our country, which is Boeing.
I know you were trying to be cheeky, but the Dutch VOC was the original corporation, and this was their exacting strategy.
The incompetence of Boeing is terrible. I'm amazed they get anything flying. I doubt they've made a rollout schedule in their history.
Given the massive financial impact of these 777X delays on long-term fleet planning, does anyone know how airlines like Emirates or Lufthansa handle the contractual clauses for compensation, or are they realistically just forced to accept deep discounts on future orders as mentioned in the comments? I was trying to find some actual case studies on how aerospace delays affect airline financing and stumbled across this technical breakdown at https://paripesabdguide.com but it seems completely unrelated to aviation. Does anyone have a link to a proper analysis of Boeing's current penalty structures?