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Details: New Spirit Airlines Free Spirit Loyalty Program (It's Kind Of Awesome)

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In October 2020, Spirit Airlines revealed the basic details of its new revenue based loyalty program. Well, the program launches today, and with that Spirit Airlines has also revealed more information about the program, including details of co-branded credit cards. I’m extremely impressed by Spirit Airlines’ new loyalty program.

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(@Tracy S)
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I live in GA while my parents live in WA. Previously Spirit wasn't even an also-ran for trips to see them, but now they appear at least competitive. There are other destinations served by them I'd be interested in now, as well. And they may become valuable for positioning flights. They just might become one of my primary domestic carriers...

I do wonder if the fares & ancillary fees will be adjusted.

I'm still wary of the number of flights they operate...often if a flight cancels (for whatever reason) there isn't another Spirit flight to *anywhere* the same day from that airport.


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Diamond
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Good analysis. I don't envision myself ever flying Spirit but this loyalty program seems like the right approach for their business model. Curious to see if these positive changes will be offset by changes to redemption rates.


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 Pete
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Lucky’s most enthusiastic review of a loyalty program is for an airline he would never be caught dead on flying on a regular basis.
We should take that into account in our assessment.


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Diamond
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We have no idea what the CPM value would be, we have no idea which junk redemption fees will remain, and there are no elite upgrades (or even discounts) for BFS?

So far this does not seem very exciting for anyone who wasn’t already captive to Spirit - which has to be a vanishingly small market. I’d rather just pay the ancillary fees as needed. “Fantastic” is a very premature verdict.


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 PDS
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How can you say this program is so good when you don’t even know the redemption rate?!?...the earn rate is irrelevant without that info. Likewise 12 months expiry is pretty lame for the average leisure traveler and hardly competitive. Everything else is pretty meh and hardly innovative, even if it’s moderately better than what it replaces. I would expect this kind of review from TPG when being blatantly paid by the cars issuer, but not OMAAT. Very disappointed!


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(@Michael)
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Astonished to think of spending $5k/yr on NK tickets. I used them in the Before Times for $20 BOS-CLE sectors.


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@ Michael -- LOL, fair. I think Spirit Gold might be one of the most exclusive (and unenviable) elite tiers out there, because it would take a *lot* of flying to spend $5K on Spirit.


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(@MattR)
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I wonder how long it will be before we see the full service carriers adjust their programs. The current revenue requirements are unreachable for most (particularly those with families) if the industry loses a significant share of business travelers. Things like family pooling may become increasingly important. I would not be surprised to see elements of the Spirit and Frontier loyalty programs being adopted by the big 3.


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@GoAmtrak: To me the biggest things are the ability to earn via CC and/or flying, free exit row seats at booking, and a free drink/snack.

Those in an AA hub city + NK focus city (like me at PHL) who directly/indirectly pay their own fares (not me) may be inclined to switch given AA will no longer award status miles on Basic Econ flights, so assuming AA is matching prices, it comes down to spending an extra $60+ to get to Main Cabin for each r/t to maintain elite status or switching to Spirit.

Someone flying PHL-FLL 20 times/year for $200 r/t may see that it's spending $800+ extra on Main Cabin fares to get AA Gold, or buying the same tickets on Spirit and spending $10k on the credit card to get Spirit Gold and guaranteed exit rows (vs T-24 AA MCE).

Agreed that we need to see what redemption looks like before knowing how good the new program is.


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@ PDS -- Appreciate the feedback and see where you're coming from, but let me clarify a few things.

First of all, not only was I not paid for this story, but Spirit didn't even share the info with me under embargo, unlike with other bloggers, so I can assure you there's no secret relationship here. 😉

Second of all, I acknowledged twice in the post that we'll have to see what redemption rates are like before making a final judgment.

That being said, I would probably still think this program is a huge improvement even if you needed a million points per dollar of airfare. The previous version of the program is a complete gimmick, given $100 redemption fees and three month mileage expiration.

Regardless of what redemptions look like, I'm extremely impressed that Spirit has created an elite tier where you get almost everything included, which isn't something I ever expected from the airline. Furthermore, I appreciate the logic that went into this program in general, as Spirit is rewarding ancillary revenue more than base airfare spending.


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(@HinBW)
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Does anyone use their Amex Platinum airline credit on Spirit? It's super hard to get that reimbursed for legacy airlines now, but ULCC's like Spirit might be one of the few where you get value.

Especially if you can use the airline credit for upgrades to the big front seats and your bags. With the larger seats, maybe flying Spirit wouldn't be that bad?

Worth it? Or just a bad idea?


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(@rohan)
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YAY! As someone who has nearly 50K of Free Spirit miles, and has to eat at a Free Spirit dining restaurant every 90 days in order to avoid forfeiting those miles during COVID-19, these changes are wonderful.


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Diamond
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"Alex, I'll take 'Least Likely Opening Line of an OMAAT Post in Recorded History' for 1,000, please!"


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(@Larry)
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Lucky praising Spirit Airlines????? something odd


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(@James S)
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What kind of degenerate would fly Spirit enough to rack up $5,000 in spending a year!?!?


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@HinBW I did because I fly LAS-FLL to see my mom 4 or 5 times a year. I prefer JetBlue, but if the fare difference gets too high, I can get an exit row and a carryon on Spirit courtesy of Amex. Every flight from LAS-FLL is a red eye so service is negligible regardless of which airline you choose.

I wonder what they are going to do with the current miles people have. I fly them enough that my points have not expired but it was never worthwhile to actually use them.


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(@EthFlyer)
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Spirit should offer some sort of hazard pay for choosing to fly on such a trash airline that is also filled with Americans. Probably dealing with some sub 50% mask utilization and 80% passenger obesity rate.


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(@Jeff McGough)
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So what do I get for my "points"? For instance, if I accumulate 1000 points what do I receive? $100 cash? A free ticket?


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What a GREAT program!!!!!!

Wow those redemption rates are, um, FANTASTIC!!!!

The ONLY "fantastic" aspect is anticipation of the number of rubes the Pimpers of Plastic can convert.

It's ALL about the conversions.


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 Char
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The old one was crazy. Not falling for this one. Trying training the rude unprofessional ticket agents.


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@HinBW: I checked it out and took it for a test flight. The truth is you'd be throwing the Amex benefit away....completely! Spirit does not code any ancillary charges separately. They roll baggage fees, seat charges and everything else into the ticket invoice so Amex pays NOTHING. I could not even be reimbursed for a drink onboard as Amex reports that Spirit does not code properly for them. I immediately contacted Amex and had the credit switched to AA.


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(@mark-if-not-available-ill-use-1a-please-2-2-2-2-2)
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I am sorry, Ben, but I remain unimpressed. Spirit is a cheap flying bus with nothing going for it at all except for what usually is a cheap price. That's it. Who would think it would be a good investment in $20,000.00 plus CC spend for such a paltry few benefits

My take on Spirit is still the same: If it's cheap enough, add a Big Front Seat as part of a package which includes your bag. Otherwise, ship your bag. I heard their President quoted the" Spirit has the most complaints in the industry and they are proud of that factoid" They are the American version of Ryanair but with less frequency. I have seen people cry in the boarding area because they were getting clipped $100.00 because their carry on was too big. Horrible company!


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 Bill
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It would be bad enough to fly spirit to begin with. I certainly wouldn't be looking to fly enough to have and to redeem points with them for additional flights!


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(@Michael Jeffries)
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I'm not too rich or too 'good' to fly an ULCC. Spirit has improved tremendously over the past 5 years or so. The planes are newer, they have an impeccable safety record and the crews are usually very friendly and approachable. That being said I don't actively avoid them, but living in Atlanta I tend to fly Delta a lot more. However, if the flight works for my schedule, I'll gladly book Spirit.


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(@Dixie)
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I have flown Spirit several times and have flown the more expensive airlines...read the small print do follow the directions...they will fulfill their agreement..clean. on time flight with no frills...I don't need to pay big money to be treated unkind. Wait on plane or ride in dirty plane...it's not a till life ends deal it's a plane ride. I have Spirit card use my points to purchase tickets for myself and family all the time. Plan ahead read the small print...just common sense for the world we live in.


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(@INS Vikrant)
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Looks way more appealing than MileagePlus


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(@Antonio Rivera Freytes)
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By far Spirit has the most fees on almost anything. From carry on fees to charges for water plus many more this airline needs to closed down. Thank God for JetBlue.


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 CG
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This is a points n miles credit card website, with that said, we have some of the best premium credit cards and loyalty programs at our disposal. Why on God's green earth would I ever fly Spirit airlines? If i need to fly on a discount carrier, Southwest is far superior in EVERYTHING!!! compared to Spirit. There are too many passengers having fist fights mid-air on Spirit.


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(@Harry P. Sykes, Jr.)
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They can't seem to handle crediting mileage after the fact. I called in 3 times, last call was sent up to the escalation department even, but my miles still show as zero. If they can't handle this simple task, don't expect them to be able to manage a new frequent flyer program.


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(@DS1971)
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I couldn't be happier with the changes being made to the program. I would like to comment on the airline excluding BFS upgrades. While we'd all love the option, it is important to remember something that is extremely important but hasn't been discussed; SIZE. Spirit is a small, albeit growing, airline. While the airline continues to have ambitious growth plans for the post-pandemic world, it will take years to scale up to the size of airlines with premium seats. Imagine snow hits Chicago, there is weather in Ft. Lauderdale, and its Christmas. Spirit does not have the BFS inventory to easily accommodate oversells. The airline is being rightfully cautious by not offering a perk they can't deliver at all times. Any business does not want to disappoint their best customers. It would take a lot more frequency and a lot more inventory to offer upgrades. It may happen at some point. Until then we cheer for more destinations and more frequency.


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(@gboac)
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A sincere request to Ben:

When you update a post (as you did with this one) can you please indicate what content has been updated. Otherwise it looks like a fresh post but the plethora of Oct comments indicate otherwise. This has been happening a lot recently and I find it frustrating. YMMV


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 Abey
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I would pay per view to watch lucky fly spirit out of FLL, oh and middle seat! Live stream reviews of the buzzbals and Florida man fights


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(@rohan)
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Fantastic! I have acquired over 45,000 FREE SPIRIT miles since 2015, and have been sitting on them, waiting for a time when they might become of use. Turns out, it was worth the wait!


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 Gene
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@ Ben -- How many COVID vaccines do you need to fly safely on Spirit?


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(@nikojas)
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In the context of a LCC it's a pretty good offering. Just wondering why they would choose the name Yellow Glove Concierge to denote the elite phone line. Here in the UK I'd associate that with yellow marigold gloves worn when doing the washing up!


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(@Gilbert arenas)
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(@Chris)
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What’s missing from such a fervent and impassioned review is that the pugilastic entertainment is live and free! Clearly worth a few dozen Spirit points


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(@steve_CC)
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I have exec platinum but still will fly spirit the big free seat is legit if the time is convenient and the price is right ill fly spirit any day of the week if i can get that BFS. Only downside is the look that the amex lounge agent gives you when you have them your spirit boarding pass at the centurion lounge haha.


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 Greg
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WAKE UP American, Delta, United - Spirit is on your tail for status chasers.

Fix the dismal premium cabin food and beverage - your differentiation just went down a level.


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 CG
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I like the idea of Spirit, but the reality is that you may get beat up by the other passengers. Always fights on Spirit, even during a pandemic and social distancing passengers still get up in each others face and throw punches.


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(@Simon)
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The worst airline you can not even pay me enough to fly Spirit!


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 Josh
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Lol I want to like Spirit but then I google Spirit airlines and see what happens on a Spirit airlines flight. Like I feel like fighting someone is apart of the itinerary. Cool but I'll pass.


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(@STEVE)
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HAVE FLOWN SPIRIT EXTENSIVELY THIS PAST YEAR. NEVER HAD A NEGATIVE ISSUE. FLIGHT CREWS HAVE BEEN VERY PLEASANT, FLIGHTS WERE ON SCHEDULE AND PLANES HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAN. THE FARES ARE A FRACTION OF THEIR COMPETITORS. I JUST BECAME A GOLD MEMBER AND AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EXTRA PERKS SUCH AS FREE BAGS, SEAT SELECTION AT BOOKING, ETC. FT LAUDERDALE TO DENVER IS MY USUAL DESTINATION.


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(@Lorraine)
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On March 29, 2023, I arrived at spirit airlines at LaGuardia airport in Queens New York. Upon arrival I was told by a Spirit staff member that I would be charged a $25 fee when purchasing tickets at the counter once at the counter, the ticket agent did not put in my account number until after scheduling my flight, because of this I was charged $32 more than the ticket would’ve cost. Oh, one more reason I can’t wait for the new airlines play to come to LaGuardia more choices better outcomes!!!!!


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