Trying To Skip The American Upgrade List With Miles

Hmm.. A few comments

Be careful what you wish for - if American were to roll this out widely (say via app)
1) Tons of people would look at the “low” cost of upgrading (effectively $262 assuming a 1.25 valuation for AA miles) and try to upgrade, making upgrade lists longer. Remember this option is available to all customers. How do you choose between a general member requesting a mileage upgrade and an Executive Platinum that didn’t. Or would you get a lot of AA Golds burning down their big mile balances on upgrades months before flights
2) The more likely scenario is American more aggressively promotes a Delta like policy of pushing upgrades at 1 cent per mile - so you see 30K, 50K, 100K offers.

Back when I was flying American I used this option to upgrade into F on transcon routes all the time. Never used it for a regular upgrade.

As a Delta flyer now, regional upgrade certificates serve this function. If you can’t confirm, just waitlist an RUC on a flight where you value first class. Since there are a limited amount of them and they are only earned by Platinum and Diamond status passengers, I think that works OK

Comment and Question:

I fly the A321T LAX-JFK-LAX roue 2 to 3x a month. I am EXP as well. Recently, when purchasing coach, the mobile app offers an upg to BC. On my flight last week, the offer was changing literally every hour (and not always increasing). It started at $850, dropped to $456, then back to $700ish then I finally accepted it when it dropped the next hour to $250. Is AA testing a new dynamic pricing process for UPGs ahead of the 100 hour window? Is it limited to this route?

Related question: Where do BXP1 upgrades fall in priority with mileage upgrades and SWU?

Ben, do mileage upgrades clear first than System Wide upgrades?

My last 3 out of 4 flights on American Widebodies have featured broken Wifi. It is really time AA steps up and gets their Wifi situation figured out because it will cause me to look elsewhere if it continues to be a problem.

System-wide upgrades and point-based upgrades are highly dependent on the specific route. Using first class as an example, there is F inventory and there is A inventory. Within F and A, there is revenue inventory and there is award inventory. F award inventory is the Anytime type. A award inventory is the Saver type. All inventory starts out as F revenue. AA's Revenue Management will then allocate F award seats. RM might or might not allocate A revenue seats. Lastly, RM might or might not allocate A award seats. SWU and points-based upgrades can ONLY be used if there is A award inventory. On certain routes, such as the US to Europe, A award inventory is virtually never released prior to the day of travel. Apply the same concept to J/I.

It’s already the case (with all of the major airlines) that confirmable upgrades trump complimentary upgrades regardless of status. A general customer using miles + co-pay would clear before an EXP using comp upgrades. This seems fair - it gives all customers the opportunity to pay and have a reasonable chance (higher status pax still have priority if they choose to pay on a route that is important for them to upgrade instead of taking their chances).

UA has allowed their customers to process mileage upgrades online for years. In my experience, it hasn’t notably changed upgrades, although a big difference is that UA doesn’t allow comp upgrades on premium transcons, where it would have the most effect.

As a rule of thumb, having been 1K on UA and EXP on AA, I never left upgrades to chance on these routes as they often fill up with paid passengers. If I couldn’t find a reasonable premium fare or confirmable upgrade space, I would always waitlist with confirmed instruments.

Just a guess here. Flight inventory changes frequently in the week prior to the flight. I believe that AA may just be calculating the difference between the fare you paid and the lowest available premium fare. As lower premium buckets become available, the price goes down, as they sell out, the price goes up. And this can swing back and forth.

Wow - that is amazing to me Lucky that as an EXP, on a Saturday flight on a 777-300 and out of 52 Biz seats, that not 1 single upgrade cleared. Dang!! That's amazing to me. So does this mean that all 52 passengers are either cash-paying customers or used miles for a Biz seat?

A large number of upgrades (probably) did clear in the 72 hours prior to the flight. Ben's "mistake" (as he states in the post) was waiting until an hour or two before the flight to bump himself to the top of the list using miles. Had he done so before the 72 hour clearance window he would surely have cleared.

Ben, did AA refund the $75 fee and redeposit your miles? A while back when 500-mile coupons were necessary to upgrade, I purchased two so my son and I could upgrade and sit together. It didn’t clear and I was stuck with the paid-for coupons until they bought them back in spring.

Ahhh yes, I did not consider that. That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

At first when I read the title, I was wondering if you were going to tell us how you used your newborn son as a way to skip the upgrade list hah!

In the post Ben said that 'IF CLEARED' it would cost 15K points and $75 so from that I'd conclude that those charges aren't debited until the upgrade clears.

Is this your first flight in premium economy (not counting Norwegian, etc.)?

It could cut both ways; if you make upgrading too easy people are less likely to pay outright for a first class seat.

Separately, I have been offered reasonable cash upgrades many times at check in, particularly on sju-xxx routes and transcon lax/sfo-jfk.

how to find the upgrade using miles in expertflyer? same as using SWU? "C" bucket?

Yeah I’ve used miles to upgrade ord nyc ord prior to takeoff on American as I’m a lowly platinum. Generally I don’t bother as row one of economy is pretty close to first anyways for these short flights.

Ben — How would the $75 have been charged you if you had cleared moments before departure? I find as EXP that AA doesn’t store my credit card number (except on the website which the agents can’t use), so would the gate agent really process the charge or just upgrade you and not worry about it? I’m thinking it might end up being a free upgrade or maybe miles only but no copay?

You were a good fellow for accepting that you didn't get the upgrade with such a good attitude. Too often these articles are nothing but a rant as to why one wasn't upgraded. Too bad you have to fly AA to get there though.

AA requests your credit card information when you request the upgrade. The credit card is automatically charged if the upgrade is cleared.

For a flight like that where PE is sold as coach assuming I could get PE I wouldn't burn a SWU or try to do a miles/co pay upgrade. The business class is of course quite nice but it's a 5 hour flight and the Olive Garden meal with a few drinks isn't worth the $75.

I suspect that others also used miles for upgrade - way before you did. A lot of people have trouble booking rewards, so they use all their miles for upgrades. I am sure this flight had mileage upgrade (or SWU) space available - say a week before.

I’d imagine a Saturday flight out of MIA to LAX would be full up front. All those connections from South America and the Caribbean. An easy upgrade MIA-LAX would be a late evening weekday departure in November or December the week before a major holiday.

Hmmm , never thought about a mileage upgrade before .

im sorry....did I read this correctly...you flew PREMIUM ECONOMY????? omg....i cant believe it hahahaha. and u survived!! welcome to how the other half lives..... 😉

That $75 should be charged to a credit card where you have an airline money reimbursement budget. Did you get your points and money back or do you lose it if you do not get the upgrade? Actually sounds pretty cheap 15,000 points and $75 for proper business class.

This dilutes status even more

actually what stood out the most for me was that you could actually call and get an agent without an "4-8 hour" wait!

You should have purchased 4 business class tickets with points (I’m sure u have enough) when the seat count on expert flyer looked almost full, then cancelled them 30 min before the flight, thereby opening up
4 seats for the guaranteed “free” upgrade. Assuming of course you knew you’d be no lower on the list than #4 (probably a good bet with your status).

And before you even land, you will get an email from AA's corporate security department.

As a Delta Platinum I have not had a single RUC clear for an upgrade in 2022.

What annoys me the most is the gate agents in MIA that refuse to work on the upgrades, despite seats being available and your name on the upgrade list.
Excuses vary, from they can’t upgrade me from coach to business because it’s a 3 cabin flight, to system isn’t working.
And you can’t argue back. I’ve seen cases where they would jump you in the upgrade.