Avatar Airlines, America's most promising airline startup, has just made an incredibly generous offer to British Airways. Once accepted by British Airways (which surely it will be), this has the potential to change the aviation landscape in the US forever. There's not all that much innovation in the US airline industry, and that's where Avatar…
Continue reading: Avatar Airlines Wants British Airways’ 747s, Makes Unbelievably Generous Offer
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"The sum of the whole is worth more than the parts"
Great news for Avatar as the 747s are already being taken apart at Kemble and St Athan... just a minor problem for this airline visionary!
Planereclaimers are selling lots of parts that they take off the 747s so maybe he can just buy all those parts and build some 747s himself? I think this is an absolutely genius move and also cannot wait to join Lucky on the inaugural flight via BA code share!!!
What an amazing investment opportunity! I’m going to have my accountant look into this right away! As many of you may remember, I became a majority stake holder in the flying success story called Baltia. If Avatar is only fractionally as successful, I’ll be thrilled!
@Jeff - What rendering mate? I remember seeing that while landing in LAX yesterday evening. The bird food ad was an amazing idea proposed by the CEO of Avatar Airlines. Can't wait to try out their amazing A380s!
This is the funniest thing I've ever read on this blog! Thanks for the laugh!!
Is it worth noting that their CEO is prohibited from starting or raising money for an airline due to previous fraud convictions?
I thought for a second that Allegiant already operated Albany to Charleston, which would mean direct competition for Avatar, but then I realized that Allegiant flies Albany to Savannah instead, leaving Avatar Airways without any direct competition on this highly coveted cash cow route.
Right now, people who fly Allegiant's Albany-Savannah route have to do the short drive to Charleston, and Avatar realizes that's obviously too much to ask for Allegiant's flyers.
Thanks for the laugh! Though, respectfully, maybe you should have CrankyFlier handle the snarky Photoshops - that's kinda his forte. 😉
I’m 110% sure Alex Cruz will not only jump onboard, but he’ll order the 747s already half destroyed over at St. Athan to be rebuilt. He’ll also grease the wheels over at Boeing to restart the 748 line. This is GENIUS!
I know competition is good, in general, but do I really need another 747 here for my daily ALB-CHS commute? (Is it considered a bit of bad form flying a different big bird into where they are making those gaudy new Dreamliners?) A line-of-succession question: with the abdication of the reigning Queen of the Skies, who shall inherit that crown?
I've always wanted to fly on a 747, so this will be great...surely Boise will be a hub, right? Looking forward to BOI-CHS. No more layovers in SLC or ATL to get there!
Thanks Lucky, this was the laugh I needed for a Friday morning!
The 747 is gone,how can we ever believe something like this would even take place,but a nice read anyway,well done sir!
It's not April 1st, if the Berliner Kindl Beer might be the cause of that enthusiasm in this article or maybe a night out too long in Berlin . . . . i don't know.
But somehow from reading on your page for soooo long, i think, something is NOT right here?!
A380, B747-8 within US . . . of course, finally a GREAT alternative if the A380 would be in that country so the people there would be able to experience GREAT flying after having not really ANY great airliner there since AWA 747 back in the 80's, but Charleston . . .
Really, i think you should have been moving to Bavaria to get a bit more "fresher and cleaner" air!
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Something is NOT YOU here Ben!!!!
As an aircraft mechanic for a major airline and former britishairways aircraft engineneer left me explain what this plan will fail 1. Yes b747 -400 parts are available at a high cost now sincer parts are limited 2 b747-400 as nit buit to bé a domèstic plane. Doing 3 or 4 cycles a day. So maintenance cost will bé very high. And to stop that' bleeding of the batt you need high load factors. Also b.a does not win all this 747 the lesseps alot back over16 years ago roughly i remember that' very will so. No this airline probaly will fail or never take flight
"... intended to provide up to $50 billion in support to struggling airlines (and yeah, who said airlines need to actually have airplanes?)."
Well the UK government gave a £15 million contract to a shipping company that had no ships and whose T&s were lifted from a fast food restaurant.
There might be a few stored Ilyushin Il-96 that are available for cheap (the price may justify the slightly inferior operational reliability compared to a 747)
Although the A380 is the only other aircraft that will work on the Avatar plan there are several downsides to the aircraft. Those include among others; airport access, and overall price given its more recent age as opposed to the 747s.
Any carrier that would bring the 747 back into USA passenger service is a friend of mine!! It's my favorite aircraft.
LOL! Swap 747s for A380s?! Hell no! I would fly on a 747 today, now for the A380... never again.... dislike this plane in ANY configuration/class..... wouldn't fly on it again even if u PAY ME! So glad COVID-19 is retiring this cow mover ❤️!!
YASSSSS!!!
So if they are a discounter, say, a Ryanair, but in 747's or better yet, A380's, imagine how many passengers they can transport once Ryanair's CEO finally gets that approval to get rid of seats and have people just stand up while in flight? Can we agree that 2500 is a realistic goal?
Sorry, but given the size of these birds, there a’int no way Avatar would operate these planes out of say CHS... and to ALB out of all places. There simply isn’t enough demand.
Seems pretty obvious that Avatar would operate between the mega metro areas, competing directly with the big boys who have in recent years also have been mainly focusing on the same mega-metros city pairs while neglecting the small and medium-sized markets. This situation has left an opening for the perennially profitable Allegiant to expand around the country flying between cities like CHS and ALB using less than 1x daily frequency. Now imagine trying to operate this route with a 747. Just doesn’t make sense. This is also BTW the market Neeleman is trying to capture with Breeze Airways where the size and economics of the A220 would make much more sense than the 747.
Certainly the airport accessibility of the A380, that is the number of jetways that it requires would greatly restrict which cities to which it could fly.
For the smaller airports - the USAF have a lot of excess B-52s - they could fly over the airport and open the bomb doors and let the passengers out - you don't have to worry about folk in front of you taking a long time to get off the aircraft.
They are almost in UAs old colour scheme already !
The 747-8 is cheaper to operate so no A380. Plus 747-400 will be cheaper to acquire and operate than A380 too
I just checked the website of Avatar. Does anyone notice they just use KLM livery with a photoshopped tail logo and that they just took some photos from a casting agency to fill for example their 'Executive Administrator' position? It's like they're not even trying to be serious.
Oh, and a nice touch to post a webcam selfie taken in the living room as CEO photo. Much professional, very wow.
Amazing how people fall for it anyway. Investing in this is like deserving to lose your money, in a way.
The best aviation comedy since Baltia. 🙂