We recently saw the launch of Atmos Rewards, the new combined loyalty program of Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines. The program is really well thought out, in my opinion, with some unique features you won’t find with many other programs.
Continue reading: Atmos Rewards Points Earning On Premium Partner Tickets Improving
Share your questions, experiences, and thoughts below.
Thanks for this. I'm still processing (need more coffee) but to clarify - the Atmos webpage says "Eligible American Airlines-marketed flights booked through American" get 5 points per $. But does that mean that AA flights not booked through AA but credited to AS get the partner earn chart? (Understand that you have to select fare paid to get the partner earn chart.)
Also has interesting implications for earning points through award travel as you'd then go to 1 status point per 20 points redeemed?
And if you have Atmos status do you get further bonus points on top of the partner reward chart? And are those bonus points = status points as well?
This is good to know. Obviously, most airlines want you to spend cash on their metal. That said, for Atmos Rewards, my focus is to keep earning status points based on distance traveled while redeeming Alaska points on F/J partner awards (AA, JX, etc.); Alaska is uniquely generous with that, regardless of these other changes. Even when other airlines allow you to earn status qualifying points on award redemptions, it's usually only for their metal, not partners. (Like, DL redemptions earn MQDs on DL metal, not AF, KL, VN, etc.)
The real question is whether cash-paid partner flights should be credited to AS or AA under these circumstances. If selecting 'distance,' ideally we're traveling long-distance and not spending much on those tickets. However, if you're like Ben, spending a small fortune to review a partner seat in F/J, spend-based is probably best (and I recall he's transitioned to AS-focus, over AA, even while based at MIA!) Or, if you're a road-warrior going from SEA-PDX in Economy multiple times per week, then 500 a pop is maybe best. Will be interesting to see how this goes for everyone.
This makes my head hurt. Its complex for a reason. I will spare myself and just avoid Atmos.
So am I right with the following presumptions?
If I choose the "fare/revenue" point track, I will earn 5 points (status points as well) on every $1 spent on Alaska/American fares, regardless of class of service. Then I presume I will additional points based on the class of service.
If I flew on their partner airlines (excluding American), I will still earn status points based on the actual distance flown, as well as class of service, since Alaska has no access to the actual fares paid.
For mileage ticket, I will just earn 1 status points for every 20 points I paid for the actual ticket.
Am I right?
But then this is further misleading because when you look at the earnings charts, it states that for partner airlines booked elsewhere (not through Alaska/Hawaiian etc), if you select to earn by fare paid, you still end up earning by distance flown with the added enhanced bonus. So the way I’m reading this is that if you go for earning by fare paid, you get 5 status points/$1 on American and Alaska/Hawaiian, and for all other partners with tickets starting with anything other than 027 and 001 you earn “points and status points based on a percentage of the actual distance traveled, if price paid earn is selected.” And that percentage is the new enhanced percentage. Am I missing something? And then of course you have communities bonuses etc etc. A bit of a “best of both worlds” in some respects?
Also, am I right in thinking that if you use the points calculator on the Atmos Rewards website which uses your spend to date to calculate the best option for you, it uses the current earning rates/bpnuses for partner flights booked elsewhere and not the new enhanced ones? Otherwise something isn’t right. Most of my travel is on partner airlines booked elsewhere and it’s given me more or less the same figure I earned so far. I would expect this to be near double!
Upgraded Points created a 2-part table that made it much easier to understand (I do love a good table). Since I'll be choosing distance traveled, it'll be straightforward for me, and makes the most sense with my purchasing patterns (pretty much all economy with the occasional domestic first ticket).
https://upgradedpoints.com/news/atmos-rewards-new-earn-rates-for-partner-flights/
Does this mean that American flights booked through Alaska, Hawaiian, or American now earn 5x$1 plus status? Because that could drastically improve earnings of AA metal booked via AA.
Man doesn't each major points blog say at one contradicting thing about this change? I'll see if AI can explain it better?
I think the other part of the equation of all this is the price AS charges for booking partner flights through them. FT has a number of examples over the past few months of AS booked partner flights as way more exorbitantly priced then booking through the partner airline directly.
If you're using other people's money, then sure, book through AS, but for a lot of people the price difference can be multiple times more to book through AS, so when you book through the partner site, your SP earn is much lower since you're only earning 250% of the distance flown.
If I pay $5000 for an Int'l F ticket on AS, I'd earn 25,000SP. Booked on the partner site, I'd earn 250% of the distance flown. So the break even would be 10,000 miles flown regardless of price. However, lots of examples of those flights booked through the partner costing a lot less, so you forgo a chunk of SP.
I don't understand why there's no class of service bonus with the miles flown option. Clearly they make more money if you buy a higher class service (usually 3+ times as much), so why wouldn't you get rewarded for that?
I flew first class RT on Alaska from SAN to DEN a few weeks ago. I opted to have the miles awarded to my American AAdvantage account thinking that it would be about the same for either airline. Wrong!! American awarded me a paltry ~400 AAdvantage miles for this flight when Alaska would have awarded me ~2,500 Atmos points! I am now in the process of having the AA miles awarded back to my Alaska Atmos account. A big hassle and a lesson learned about miles awarded to partner airlines. No thanks!
This entire post is wrong. The class of service bonus still applies to flights booked on partner airlines on distance-based earning as long as you don't book on Alaska's website.
