Initial Thoughts On China Eastern’s 777 Business Class

Update: Read my full China Eastern Business Class 777 Los Angeles To Shanghai review.

I just got off my first ever China Eastern flight, and figured I’d share my initial thoughts about the flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai (other than the fact that the crew was smoking throughout the flight).

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Prior to taking this flight I was optimistic about China Eastern. I recently flew China Airlines and was very pleasantly surprised, though I realize they’re Taiwan based (though both airlines are in SkyTeam with similar hard products). Furthermore, my last flight on a mainland Chinese carrier was on Hainan, which was excellent for the most part — the crew was friendly and the service was great.

While I knew China Eastern had a bad reputation, I figured maybe they were trying to turn that around. They’ve invested in gorgeous new 777-300ER aircraft, so with the amount they’re spending on the hard product, presumably they want to impress with the soft product as well, right? Wrong…

China Eastern 777 business class seat

China Eastern has reverse herringbone seats in business class, which I consider to be among the best hard products out there. So they get high marks for that.

However, China Eastern has the blandest reverse herringbone seats I’ve ever seen. There’s no color to them, there’s no walk-up bar, etc. It seems like they were happy to write a check for the cost of the seats, but didn’t actually put any thought into how they wanted them to look.

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Ultimately the seat was the best part of the flight.

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China Eastern 777 business class food

It was absolutely disgusting. In fairness, I don’t eat pork, which prevented me from eating the Chinese meal. Even so, you’d think they could come up with a remotely appetizing western menu.

The appetizer was fine…

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…while the main course was possibly the most disgusting thing I’ve ever been served on a plane.

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The mid-flight snack menu had a “Western Western Exquisite Western Snack.”

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What did that consist of? A tiny stale salmon sandwich with fresh fruit. I can assure you, it was not not not exquisite exquisite exquisite.

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China Eastern business class service

This was actually the worst part of the flight. The crew’s English wasn’t too bad, so I really don’t think this was due to a language barrier (though admittedly it was probably partly due to a culture barrier… partly).

China Eastern’s onboard Wi-Fi home page advertises “New Boeing 777 offers 5-star hotel service in the air.”

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I think the only person in the world who could call the service on China Eastern 5-stars is Kim Jong-un, assuming he owned the airline.

Where do we even begin?

During boarding I noticed that they had a legitimate espresso machine with milk frothing device in the galley, so after lunch I ordered a cappuccino. I was served hot water with a nasty powder. I tried to order another one later in the flight, and explained that I was hoping for a proper espresso based drink with milk. “We don’t have.”

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Later I wandered into the galley to go to the lavatory and noticed the crew having a huge cappuccino party in the galley, making cappuccinos for themselves with illy pods. At least eight crewmembers were in the galley drinking them while chatting.

The meal service was so sloppy. For example, I’d hand the flight attendant my appetizer and soup plate after they were finished, and she’d put the soup plate back on my tray, because she only wanted to clear enough so that there was room for my main course.

Just about everything about the service was disorganized. The bread was brought out about 10 minutes after the appetizers were served, at which point we were both already done with our appetizers.

The crew didn’t have inside voices, in the sense that during the meal service they’d yell at passengers and one another. I realize that’s largely just cultural and that inside voices often aren’t a thing in China, but…

The crew also didn’t do good safety checks, as there was a lady in business class using the lavatory during landing, and she walked back to her seat once we were taxiing in.

And there were many more things, which I’ll cover in the full trip report.

China Eastern business class bottom line

China Eastern business class is great… if you board tired, full, and with earplugs and a nose clip (unless cigarette smoke doesn’t bother you).

China Eastern has a great hard product and has so much potential, but they just fall flat when it comes to their soft product. The food and service were really underwhelming, probably the worst I’ve had on any transpacific flight.

Delta should be embarrassed of their “strategic partnership” and ownership stake in China Eastern.

Stay tuned for the full trip report!

If you’ve flown China Eastern, what was your experience like?

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Liz Guest

I am going China Eastern through pvg to Daegu So Korea next month. All I ask is that I can arrive in one piece.

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@Darren: As someone who is *ACTUALLY* Asian (ethnically Chinese) AND based in Asia AND who flies a lot, I can say that Lucky's reports do NOT exhibit bias toward Chinese people and culture. His criticism of China Eastern may provoke nationalist hypersensitivity on the part of PRC loyalists who can't tolerate criticism of China from white people and use accusations of racism strategically to undermine white criticism. But it is totally fair and objectively warranted. Rather than cast innuendo and speculate on Lucky's personal psychology, let's talk facts. (1) China Eastern, frankly, is pretty bad. I have had reasonable service on their domestic short-hauls, more often than not. But the long-haul business class service is embarrassing - it is simply not even close to their competitors' standards. My god, they even make AA look good. At one point or another, I have experienced on China Eastern everything he has experienced. If given a choice between China Eastern and CX or Eva or China Airlines, ***it is not even close***. BR, CI, CX all make MU look like garbage. Frankly, even other PRC-based airlines make MU look bad. It is a poorly kept secret that they have to offer better prices because they just don't look good compared to the competition. I go out of my way to pay extra money to avoid MU. State-run airlines in Myanmar, Vietnam, even Bhutan all make MU look bad by comparison. It is the only "non-budget" carrier that I routinely pay money to avoid. (2) How do you explain his consistent praise of CX, if he is biased against Chinese people/culture? (3) How do you explain his consistent praise of Eva and China Airlines, if he is biased against Chinese people/culture? (4) How do you explain his highly (surprisingly) positive and recent review of Hainan Airlines -- both ground and in-flight experience? So -- my fellow Asian -- take your crying-wolf accusation of racism and STUFF IT.

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Darren Guest

As someone based in socal and routinely fly to East Asia for business upfront, I can tell Lucky is definitely biased toward Chinese people and culture, there's clearly a condescending undertone in this article and the other posts on mainline Chinese airlines. If you ask, I do think the Chinese culture of idolizing Caucasian people is to be blamed here. When even A&F starts to put non-white faces in their posters, you'll be amazed to find how many Billboards or posters have absolutely only White faces on them, even for those local brands. This is not just a problem for the mainland, but also prevalent in greater China region (including HK and Taiwan) and other east Asian countries like Korea and Japan. This cultivates a sense of privilege among the unsuspected white travelers to China. And that sense of privilege inspires condescending attitude towards the hosts, in this case the Chinese airlines under review. I have read Lucky's other posts regarding legacy U.S. carriers and I can assure you the UA dragons are 1000000% times worse than the FAs from the Chinese airlines but you don't sense the same sense to tone in his reviews. The Chinese are easy targets to pick on, apparently, with Trump now in the WH. But let's keep racism and prejudice out of professional reviews, if you call it that. @Tom Aug 2: Your comments is hilarious and uneducated at the best. It reminds me of the South Carolina guy who showed up at Comet Ping Pong this week with the AR15s. Typical mindless trolls who trusts anything the conspiracy theorists cooked up, blaming other posters as trolls, how ironic.

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Silver Guest

Thanks for the headsup, Lucky. There is NO f**king way I'll fly PRC airlines. By the way, I am no pale face and do not worship the ground Lucky walked on.

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Tom Guest

You are clearly being flooded with comments from the Chinese propaganda shops. See the recent Bloomberg article entitled "China Fakes 488 Million Social Media Posts a Year: Study" at http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-19/china-seen-faking-488-million-internet-posts-to-divert-criticism Hey, look on the bright side! It's a sign that they think you have influence! Hard to believe the stupidity of how they operate, but I suppose when you're dealing with a rather ignorant populace, it must work enough of the time to be worth it. (I believe the US is now trying the same experiment on both sides of the presidential election.) ;)

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