I’m not sure how this story didn’t initially get more media coverage, though it sure is alarming.
On June 21, 2018, a China Airlines Cargo Boeing 747-400 with four people onboard was performing a flight from Anchorage to Chicago, when it had quite an incident on landing. The plane was supposed to land on runway 10L, and performed a last minute go around due to a “deviation” on the runway.
The Aviation Herald has all the details of the incident:
The crew of another aircraft on the ground advised the aircraft had gone off the runway, a third crew advised tower the runway needed to be inspected. A runway inspection found debris on the runway, the windsock (WDI) to the left (north) of the runway between taxiway DD and N1 was found damaged, the runway was closed for about 50 minutes. In the meantime B-18711 positioned for another approach and landed safely on runway 09R about 25 minutes after the go around.
The FAA reported the flight touched down in the grass, went around and returned to land. None of the 4 occupants was injured, the aircraft sustained minor damage.
That might not sound that terrible, but check out this footage of the 747 landing at the airport, along with the air traffic control audio to go along with it:
When you consider that the plane actually touched down in the grass so close to several taxiing aircraft, this sure looks scary. Furthermore, as the plane climbs out, you can see the wings dipping left and then dipping right. I’m not sure if they didn’t have full control of the aircraft or what, but the climb out looks scary.
Thank goodness no one was hurt, and the pilots had enough speed to perform a go around, or else this could have ended differently.
lucky, I gotta say... leaving out the fact that it was a cargo plane from the title is a pretty big omission. CI’s passenger pilots and cargo pilots are entirely differently groups.
@john,
Taiwan has its own passport, its own law and president. There's no such place that is Taiwan, China.
"Having a fair and open referendum for all the CHINESE people residing in the whole of CHINA (ncluding Taiwan) to decide on whether Taiwan is a part of China is a very good idea"
NO - Let Taiwan decide whether they want to be part of China. You can't include China's 1B+ people, just like any independent vote.
@ Paolo that repair you cite had nothing to do with the US and was done by CI engineers. They went against Boeing safety recs and made up their own repair.
Don't spread lies that somehow the US was involved in that sad accident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611#Metal_fatigue_cracking
@eskimo
My coffee is all over my computer screen and I have cracked my ribs laughing - thanks for that!
By the way, did anyone of you catch this.
*****TRY TURN ON THE CLOSED CAPTION ON YOUTUBE. VERY HILARIOUS.*****
That brings back memories from a similar incident in Anchorage that occurred a few years ago in the winter. A China Airlines 747 took off on a taxiway instead of the runway. Barely cleared a snow berm at the end of the taxiway you could see the wheel Mark's left in the berm it was that close.
@Kerry
Completely disagree with:
"for some reason aviation in Taiwan continues to have an appalling record and a justifiably awful reputation, despite the high level of development there".
Eva Air, the other carrier for Taiwan has an amazing safety record, contrary to China Airlines.
Haha, both john and Debit are making comments that are politically incorrect in both directions, both PRC and ROC. Definitely offending all parties involved! :P
@Debit
'There is one China. Its capital is Taeipi. '
I don't think it's the best idea to make comments like this if you can't even spell Taipei right.
The wings dipping left and right are usually signs of a stall or lack of lift. Sure seems surprising that the plane recovered.
There is one China. Its capital is Taeipi. Time for free and fair elections under UN supervision. Time to hold communist party on trial for crimes against humanity. Time to tell Chinese communist government trolls on things website to grow some balls and think for themselves instead of Chinese propaganda.
There is one China. Its capital is Taeipi.
I dont know why there are so many ignorant Chinese trolls on this website, claiming the China Airlines is a Taiwanese carrier, or worse, a Taiwanese flag carrier. Really Ignorant! First of all, when an adjective is appended to the front of "carrier", that adjective usually refers to the country, not the province. E.g. French carrier, not Paris carrier. Second, there is not such thing as a Taiwanese flag (and putting quotation marks around the...
I dont know why there are so many ignorant Chinese trolls on this website, claiming the China Airlines is a Taiwanese carrier, or worse, a Taiwanese flag carrier. Really Ignorant! First of all, when an adjective is appended to the front of "carrier", that adjective usually refers to the country, not the province. E.g. French carrier, not Paris carrier. Second, there is not such thing as a Taiwanese flag (and putting quotation marks around the word flag makes no difference). These is only one flag in Taiwan and that's a Chinese flag - the flag of the Republic of China (whose Constitution states clearly that Taiwan is a province of China).
So, yes, China airlines is a Chinese carrier and yes, it is a Chinese flag carrier. It is based in Taiwan, China.
@Kerry
China Airline is the CHINESE flag (no quotation marks needed) carrier, based in Taiwan, China, and has everything to do with ROC - the Republic of CHINA - whose Constitution states that it has sovereignty over the whole of China, for which Taiwan is a province...
@SH
China (no quotations needed) Airlines is a CHINESE carrier from ROC - Republic of CHINA - giving the PRC a bad rap due to name...
@Kerry
China Airline is the CHINESE flag (no quotation marks needed) carrier, based in Taiwan, China, and has everything to do with ROC - the Republic of CHINA - whose Constitution states that it has sovereignty over the whole of China, for which Taiwan is a province...
@SH
China (no quotations needed) Airlines is a CHINESE carrier from ROC - Republic of CHINA - giving the PRC a bad rap due to name confusion since 1959 caused entirely by Mao Zedong (and his comrades) who stupidly decided to call his new founded government PRC instead of simply taking over the name ROC.
@Debit
Having a fair and open referendum for all the CHINESE people residing in the whole of CHINA (ncluding Taiwan) to decide on whether Taiwan is a part of China is a very good idea. It is similar to the excellent idea of President Abraham Lincoln: Just as it required the agreement of every states in the Union to allow a new state to join the Union, similarly, it requires the assent of EVERY state before a state is allowed to leave the Union - this is, of course, just my paraphrasing; I am sure Americans know more about their own history (and the value of "One Nation, under no-god, indivisible...") than I do....
@Debit
WTF??? It was under Obama that Russia took away a piece of Ukraine. And I'm not American and couldn't care less about who's the president.
I heard the situation was that they peformed ILS autoland down to around hundreds feet RA then the plane began to deviates from rwy centerline. At this moment the pilots disconnected A/P and conducted a go-around but the main wheels coud not avoid touched the grass.
It was not close to taxiing aircraft, that's an over-dramatization. There is a lot of space between 10L and the taxiway.
Why does Taiwan belong to China?
It could be other way too. China belongs to Taiwan. Have an open and fair referendum and let people decide.
It might be a single country but which political system is right is not a foregone conclusion. Sad nixon bent over for China like trump is bending over for Russia. Republicans really have been spineless in foreign policy when it comes to taking on countries their own...
Why does Taiwan belong to China?
It could be other way too. China belongs to Taiwan. Have an open and fair referendum and let people decide.
It might be a single country but which political system is right is not a foregone conclusion. Sad nixon bent over for China like trump is bending over for Russia. Republicans really have been spineless in foreign policy when it comes to taking on countries their own size. They bomb the shit out of smaller countries. Quintessential bullies!!!
SH: China won't let Taiwan use the name Taiwan. Remember a few years ago when a China Airlines 747 was painted in a special livery promoting "Taiwan" and It had to be removed because of pressure coming from...Beijing.
The signal of ILS was been interference...
Love the Taiwan bashing from Chinese trolls. To bad Taiwan has all the best artifacts from the imperial palace at their museum. Haha
Most of the prior problem with safety in Taiwan relate to the system of pilot training. Twenty or more years ago, the vast majority of pilots came from the military , with the suggestion that their preparation for civilian flying was flawed.
The improvement in safety in recent decades, following substantial changes in training, has been dramatic.
CI's last major crash ( a 747 , on a final flight for CI, TPE-HKG) had...
Most of the prior problem with safety in Taiwan relate to the system of pilot training. Twenty or more years ago, the vast majority of pilots came from the military , with the suggestion that their preparation for civilian flying was flawed.
The improvement in safety in recent decades, following substantial changes in training, has been dramatic.
CI's last major crash ( a 747 , on a final flight for CI, TPE-HKG) had nothing to do with Taiwan but rather a faulty 'doubler' repair in the United States ( maybe even in Chicago, IIRC). Of course It's easier to point the finger at Taiwan, given the track record.
In Taiwan you probably can get away (like how they fled to the tiny island). In China, you probably get hanged for giving the party a bad name (like what would happen to CKS if he didn't flee)
@lucky
Huh well there ya go, debunks my idea.
Strange, I'll be intrested to read the NTSB report
Complease fluke this didn’t end in total catastrophe
I'm not a 747 pilot and dont know the weather conditions but looks to me like a crosswind landing without proper correction. Its blurry but looks like he landed, kind of skidded I a sense because of the wind and improper rudder/ailerons correction. That's likely the reason why when he had wheels off the ground the plane abruptly banked right. Once the skid towards grass began he gave right ailerons correction and just did not...
I'm not a 747 pilot and dont know the weather conditions but looks to me like a crosswind landing without proper correction. Its blurry but looks like he landed, kind of skidded I a sense because of the wind and improper rudder/ailerons correction. That's likely the reason why when he had wheels off the ground the plane abruptly banked right. Once the skid towards grass began he gave right ailerons correction and just did not reduce input upon taking off.
That's my 10 cents but I could be wrong
@ Paul -- For what it's worth, winds were pretty light at the time of the incident. They were at a heading of 070 at 11 knots, so that lines up almost with the runway heading. Winds shouldn't have been a factor.
"China" Airlines - a Taiwanese carrier giving the PRC a bad rap due to name confusion since 1959.
Meanwhile China is statistically one of the safest places on earth to fly in.
I agree with Lucky. It sure did not look like they had full control on climb-out. Amazing to watch!
@Steve
China Airlines is the Taiwanese “flag” carrier, and therefore has no affiliation to the PRC. Indeed, China Ailines has long has a vastly worse safety record than Air China (the PRC flag carrier and the subject of the recent “vaping” incident).
To be fair, in recent years China Airlines has worked hard to improve their safety record, and they haven’t had a major fatal accident since 2002, but it looks like deeper cultural...
@Steve
China Airlines is the Taiwanese “flag” carrier, and therefore has no affiliation to the PRC. Indeed, China Ailines has long has a vastly worse safety record than Air China (the PRC flag carrier and the subject of the recent “vaping” incident).
To be fair, in recent years China Airlines has worked hard to improve their safety record, and they haven’t had a major fatal accident since 2002, but it looks like deeper cultural and training issues clearly remain (for some reason aviation in Taiwan continues to have an appalling record and a justifiably awful reputation, despite the high level of development there).
He tried to turn the plane towards the runway, hence the dipping movement. Quite a few worrying incidents coming from China these last few days/weeks.