ANA Shifting Most US Routes From Narita To Haneda

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When it comes to Tokyo Airports, Haneda is significantly more convenient than Narita, since it’s closer to the city. Historically a majority of long haul flights have been into Narita due to Haneda being significantly slot restricted, but that has slowly been changing.

For example, recently US airlines got access to an additional dozen slots at Haneda Airport, which were distributed between American, Delta, Hawaiian, and United.

What hasn’t been talked about as much is that Japanese airlines have also been given additional Haneda slots, and they’re now revealing how they plan to use those for long haul destinations.

Japanese carriers are getting a total of 12 daytime Haneda slots for US flights, and those are being equally distributed between All Nippon Airways and Japan Airlines.

All Nippon Airways Adding Six US Flights From Haneda

With the recent changes to Haneda slots, we will see All Nippon Airways add six new flights to the US out of Haneda. Most of these will replace Narita flights, though that’s not the case across the board.

Let’s take a look at the details.

New ANA Haneda To Houston Flight

As of March 29, 2020, ANA will be shifting their daily Houston flight from Narita to Haneda. The new flight will be operated by a four cabin 777-300ER with the following schedule:

NH114 Haneda to Houston departing 10:20AM arriving 8:40AM
NH113 Houston to Haneda departing 1:10PM arriving 5:00PM (+1 day)

The new flight is expected to go on sale as of November 27, 2019.

New ANA Haneda To San Jose Flight

As of March 29, 2020, ANA will be shifting their daily San Jose flight from Narita to Haneda. The new flight will be operated by a three cabin 787-8 with the following schedule:

NH120 Haneda to San Jose departing 5:05PM arriving 10:30AM
NH119 San Jose to Haneda departing 12:20PM arriving 3:20PM (+1 day)

The new flight is expected to go on sale as of November 26, 2019.

New ANA Haneda To Seattle Flight

As of March 29, 2020, ANA will be shifting their daily Seattle flight from Narita to Haneda. The new flight will be operated by a three cabin 787-8 with the following schedule:

NH118 Haneda to Seattle departing 9:00PM arriving 2:10PM
NH117 Seattle to Haneda departing 4:40PM arriving 7:00PM (+1 day)

The new flight is expected to go on sale as of November 26, 2019.

New ANA Haneda To Washington Flight

As of March 29, 2020, ANA will be shifting their daily Washington Dulles flight from Narita to Haneda. The new flight will be operated by a four cabin 777-300ER with the following schedule:

NH102 Haneda to Washington departing 10:55AM arriving 10:35AM
NH101 Washington to Haneda departing 1:10PM arriving 4:15PM (+1 day)

The new flight is expected to go on sale as of November 28, 2019.

Second Daily ANA Haneda To Los Angeles Flight

ANA currently flies three times daily to Los Angeles — twice out of Narita and once out of Haneda. As of March 29, 2020, ANA will be shifting one of their daily Narita to Los Angeles flights to instead operate out of Haneda, meaning they’ll have one daily flight from Narita and two daily flights from Haneda.

The new flight will be operated by a four cabin 777-300ER with the following schedule:

NH126 Haneda to Los Angeles departing 9:05PM arriving 3:05PM
NH125 Los Angeles to Haneda departing 5:05PM arriving 9:15PM (+1 day)

The new flight is expected to go on sale as of November 25, 2019.

ANA Adding Haneda To San Francisco Flight

In the summer 2020 schedule, ANA intends to launch a new flight between Haneda and San Francisco. An exact date hasn’t yet been given for when it will launch, but it will happen during the summer 2020 season, and tickets are expected to go on sale in mid-December.

The flight schedule will be announced at a later date.

What Narita Flights Does That Leave?

With six new US routes for ANA out of Tokyo Haneda, what does that leave for their Narita service to the US? Looking at the summer 2020 schedule, ANA will continue to operate:

  • One of two daily Chicago flights out of Narita
  • One of three daily Los Angeles flights out of Narita
  • One of two daily New York JFK flights out of Narita
  • One daily San Francisco flight out of Narita (in addition to the new Haneda flight)
  • Two daily Honolulu flights out of Narita

ANA does note that Narita’s international network will expand throughout 2020 and beyond, adding new connections between North America and Asia.

I’ll be curious to see what new routes are added out of Narita.

Bottom Line

ANA will be making huge adjustments to their US route network in the summer of 2020, just ahead of the Olympics. In general this shift to Haneda is good news for those actually visiting Tokyo, while it’s generally bad news for those connecting beyond Japan.

The Haneda flights aren’t banked as well as the Narita flights were, so this won’t be ideal for connections. I guess we also have to wait and see what US routes are added out of Narita, though frankly I don’t expect that much growth, since ANA isn’t taking delivery of new planes at a very fast pace.

What do you make of ANA switching most of their US route network to Haneda?

Comments
  1. @ Terence — Indeed, separate post coming about that, but figured it was too much info for a single post. 🙂

  2. Thanks Lucky. I have a connection in June in Narita from an ANA flight from Seattle to a Singapore Airlines flight. Will I have to switch airports? I don’t think I’ll have time with a 2 hour layover. Any ideas how they will handle that? Thanks!

  3. This is an interesting trend. Is Japan no longer a connecting hub for *A and OW in northeast Asia? Are flights to China so cheap that Tokyo is only good for O/D traffic? Seems strange to fathom.

  4. I have a confirmed ticket on NH from IAH to NRT and onto SGN next May. What is going to happen to my itinerary now? Am I responsible for getting myself across the town from HND to NRT? I find it ridiculous that JL and NH only move North American flights to HND without thinking about their SE Asia connecting flights……

  5. @Adam L
    As planes can fly further, the demand for TYO to be that hub for connecting traffic through Asia is lessened significantly. This is precisely why DL has shuttered their NRT hub. So if TYO demand is O/D rather than connecting, serving those markets directly from HND makes more sense.

    For connecting traffic, HKG is far more popular for OneWorld than TYO due to its central proximity to so many destinations. Singapore is better positioned for StarAlliance. Seoul is better positioned for Skyteam. Now that planes can fly those distances from North America, Tokyo is less ideal for connecting in comparison.

  6. @Joe @Avi
    Lol. Wait, what? Why are ya’ll asking Lucky? Check your itineraries!

    Unless yall want to send me your booking codes. I’ll take care of it for you 😉

  7. With the Japanese government expanding foreign carrier access to HND, ANA and JAL don’t really have much of a choice but to follow along. And given that they serve much more of the Japanese domestic market (which operates out of HND), this is probably desirable for them anyway. ANA and JAL get a lot more Japanese flyers who are looking at domestic connections than UA/DL/AA. I was wondering when ANA was going to move their IAD-NRT flight to HND, and it turns out the answer is just one day after United does so!

    @Jon: I suspect SIN won’t take too much of the growing hub traffic from North America since it’s so far and is a backtrack to anywhere else in northern Asia. The real change is that connecting hubs in general are faltering because the 787/A350 make it so much easier to just launch direct point-to-point international flights. The Asian countries are still willing to build new airports or expand existing ones so they aren’t as heavily slot-limited as Europe, which makes direct flights more practical.

  8. @Jon

    HKG has like 9 direct US flights, SIN has four. Tokyo US has 20 US destinations for NRT alone (though two of those are Hawaii). So while I get the point that there are other potential hubs for *A and OW, making these moves to HND doesn’t seem sustainable, even if for only the Olympics.

  9. @ Adam L
    It actually looks like JL is trying to focus more on O&D traffic, a backlash from last bankruptcy a decade ago. Then it looks like NH is trying to make HND a hub, with massive Japanese connection opportunities and many flights to Asia out of HND. Actually JL/NH prices are still quite high ex-Asia(even from outside Japan) so they will find no problem with yields at least…
    However, making TYO a connecting hub won’t be easy with what we see between NRT/HND. ICN/PEK/PKX/PVG will be the Northeast Asian hub to go for the forseeable future…

  10. For *A PEK will be the hub in Northeast Asia, and for OW it always has been HKG rather than NRT but it is now an uphill battle for OW given HKG’s location away from Northeast Asia (backtrack from both Europe and North America) and what goes on in HKG…

  11. @ Lucky / others — how soon should we expect existing tickets to reflect new flight number & route? Have a LifeMiles booking for later in 2020.

    Separately, IAH-NRT is 11:30 am – 3:20 pm and IAH-HND will be 1:10 pm – 5:00 pm, so travelers will be getting into Tokyo even later.

  12. Hmmm, i already booked ANA flights next year with a connection in NRT. I wonder how that would be impacted…

  13. Was hoping that they would adjust the JFK to HND flight for an arrival into HND at an earlier time to allow for connections. Specifically, a connection to GMP Seoul. GMP is closer to the city that ICN, just like HND is to Tokyo than NRT. I know JAL has this but I would like to use Ultimate Rewards points for ANA.

  14. if your destination is Tokyo or Yokohama that’s great. If you’re just connecting to elsewhere in Asia this creates a lot of problems. Unless they’re shifting all of those flights too. I know some SE Asia flights do operate to HND now, but it’s just a much smaller airport. As some one who has used IAD-NRT several time to connect to SE Asia this seems like a step backwards for me.

  15. I have a ANA flight from LA to Narita in May and then a separate booked connection on JAL to Singapore from Haneda. That ticket had a relatively tight 4 1/2 hour layover where I would have to switch airports. I guess this switch turned out in my favor 🙂

  16. So if we already have a flight on ANA booked from Narita to Dulles during that time (May 2020) what happens? Is it automatically switched to Haneda?

  17. When I try a dummy booking the ANA website still shows two flights from Narita and one from Haneda for May 29 the date we’re traveling. Maybe they haven’t gotten around to updating their schedule yet.

  18. “I am still in shock that HND has no priority pass lounge…” – I had the same experience of no PP lounges at Itami in Osaka I couldn’t believe it. There is no PP in hakodate airport. I understand its a really tiny airport but I have been in smaller airports that had PP lounges, but there really is no excuse with HND and Itami those are not small airports.

  19. > ANA will be shifting their daily Seattle flight from Narita to Haneda.
    > The new flight will be operated by a three cabin 787-8 with the following schedule:

    > NH118 Haneda to Seattle departing 9:00PM arriving 2:10PM
    > NH117 Seattle to Haneda departing 4:40PM arriving 7:00PM (+1 day)

    I regularly fly SEA-NRT on ANA. These times are dramatically different from current service. Hmmm.

    Does that “three cabin 787-8” include an F cabin? (or is the “third cabin” “premium economy”)?

  20. @Ivan Y
    With HND being closer the arrival time into Tokyo for most passengers will be a minimal shift.

    This is a promising change, but curious to see how it effects existing itineraries. I am booked IAH-NRT end of March and returning early April. Guess I fly into NRT and out HND.

  21. Ben — do you have any idea which of the two LAX/NRT flights will be going away? I believe NH176 departs at 4:05 p.m. and NH6 departs at 5:00 p.m.

    Will they simply map over whichever one gets changed to the HND flight or will they put those on the cancelled flight onto the relatively similar departure out of NRT? I’m booked on NH176 and much as I’d rather fly out of HND, I don’t think I want to fly at 9:05 p.m.

  22. Hm. Have an award flight set up through Virgin Atlantic for May from Dulles, I wonder how this will impact everything…
    will I automatically be migrated over to the new flight to Haneda?

  23. The real question is whether Tokyo can sustain the increase in seats because of the attempts by ANA, JL, AA and UA as well as HA to maintain NRT as a connecting airport while growing HND. There will be more than enough capacity just at HND to service the current level of local Tokyo demand and yet ANA and JL have committed to maintaining hubs at 2 Tokyo airports, something no other airline does in any other city on the planet. Given that HND is so much closer to Tokyo, it will be hard for the remaining flights at NRT to be viable given the likely shift of higher fare local Tokyo passengers from NRT to HND. That exact phenomenon happened in London when Heathrow was opened to all US airlines. United is particularly vulnerable to the hope that NRT will remain a viable, premium revenue local market. I have a feeling that we will see a number of these NRT-US flights trimmed in the coming years.

  24. I just checked our itinerary IAD to NRT and back on award flights first class in April and May 2020 and it still says NRT so they apparently haven’t updated. Wondering how that will happen

  25. By ‘shifting’ you mean they will stop the -NRT route and replace it with the HND one?
    A little worried here as I have a sea-nrt-sin flight next Apr.

  26. Hello Ben. What would be useful is how it impacts people already booked on those flights during that time. Automatically switched? Cancelled?

  27. I have an upcoming trip in ANA for June 2020, they transferred me to NH 125&126 from flights NH 175&176 and instead of NRT now HND..Just short adjustment on the hours is just fine with me at least not on a different day..

  28. I received an email notifying me of the change in connecting flights from SGN to LAX on March 30, now requiring a transfer from NRT to HND and arriving LAX several hours later than originally scheduled. I called ANA (spent approximately 40m waiting on the phone). I asked to cancel the flight and issue a full refund (including seats), since I want to make alternate arrangements. They cancelled it immediately no questions asked.

  29. Ahhhh… This explained why my NH174 (Jun 2020) got canceled and ANA auto re-booking me to NH114 from HND to IAH, which suck really bad cuz I only have 3h50mins to run quickly from Narita Airport to HND ( previous flight SGN-NRT red eyes )

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