Lufthansa Claims It’s So Unprofitable That It Can’t Afford New Planes

Lufthansa Claims It’s So Unprofitable That It Can’t Afford New Planes

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I’m not sure this negotiating tactic is quite the flex that Lufthansa management thinks that it is, but goodness, it sure makes for an interesting topic…

Lufthansa is trying to prove how unprofitable it is

Lufthansa is the flagship airline of Lufthansa Group, and the company continues to be profitable. When financial results of the airline group are revealed, exact details of the breakdown in financial performance between subsidiaries is often limited. In other words, how is Lufthansa doing vs. SWISS, Austrian, Brussels, Eurowings, etc.?

At the moment, Lufthansa is in contentious negotiations with its pilots over pensions, and a possible strike is looming. Along those lines, aeroTELEGRAPH reports on how Lufthansa management is using its poor financial performance in these negotiations, in order to justify not giving in to demands of pilots.

While Lufthansa Group reported a €149 million profit for the first half of 2025, the company claims that Lufthansa is dragging the company down significantly. Lufthansa CEO Jens Ritter claimed that the core Lufthansa brand lost €274 million in the first half of 2025, while the entire Lufthansa division (including CityLine, City Airlines, Discover, and Air Dolomiti), recorded a loss of €307 million over that period.

Ritter also stated that “without structural changes, there will be no prospects for Lufthansa Airlines.” Lufthansa has dozens of new long haul jets expected to be delivered in the coming years, and he claimed that “we cannot afford that at the moment.”

When questions came up as to whether accounting was being manipulated to make Lufthansa’s situation look worse, Ritter stated that “no one would gain an advantage by portraying Lufthansa Classic negatively,” and that “on the contrary, we are the core of the group, the largest and most important airline.”

Meanwhile Lufthansa Group CEO Carsten Spohr indicated that Lufthansa’s cost disadvantage is so great that there’s no growth taking place there — “if Lufthansa Airlines doesn’t work, we won’t be able to save it with the Billionaires Club or with ITA or Swiss” (“Billionaires Club” refers to Eurowings, Lufthansa Cargo, and Lufthansa Technik, which generate around €1 billion in profits).

Lufthansa is supremely unprofitable, according to management

Is this the flex that Lufthansa management thinks it is?

Okay, so where do we even begin here? Of course management’s strategy in negotiating with unions is nothing new here — “we’re poor, we can’t afford these additional labor costs.” Fair enough.

However, the core of what they’re saying is true — Lufthansa Group is making money, but the carrier’s flagship airline is losing a significant amount of money. Admittedly there are a lot of factors in recent years that have been incredibly challenging for Lufthansa:

There are some areas where I feel bad for Lufthansa management, because the company couldn’t have predicted that the 777X would be the mess that it has been. At the same time, there are plenty of things within management’s control, like the absurd decision to introduce Allegris, which is insanely complex, while still being sort of average.

Like, the carrier’s new business class product is from three different seating manufacturers, a weight needs to be installed on SWISS A330s to balance out the weight of first class, Lufthansa 747-8s will be equipped with two different kinds of business class seats, etc.

More fundamentally, Lufthansa’s issue is that it’s a shell of its former self. Back in the day, Lufthansa was known for being one of Europe’s highest quality and most reliable airlines. However, look at the state of the fleet now. I mean, a vast majority of the carrier’s long haul business class fleet doesn’t have direct aisle access, and the airline is flying outdated aircraft, mostly.

Beyond that, Lufthansa’s focus in recent years has been on everything except the core business. Spohr’s specialty is figuring out any way possible to create new subsidiaries in order to minimize labor costs. I understand the challenging economics of European labor agreements, but of course the core airline won’t be successful if this is how it’s approached.

It’s just such a contrast to look at the glow-up that Air France has seen in recent years, where we’ve seen massive improvements in the passenger experience, efficiency, etc., and to compare that to the lack of progress at Lufthansa.

So it’s mighty convenient for Lufthansa management to now say “well we can’t afford these increased pensions because we’re not making money,” when the core of those losses seem to be due to mismanagement, over anything else. Last I checked, Lufthansa’s top executives are still in their roles, and are still getting paid pretty nicely despite Lufthansa’s lack of performance.

Lufthansa has gone from high quality to uncompetitive

Bottom line

Lufthansa is in contentious negotiations with its pilots over pensions. Management’s defense is that Lufthansa is so unprofitable that it can’t possibly afford to increase pensions, and for that matter, can’t even afford the new planes it has on order.

While the airline business is incredibly difficult, it sure seems to me like so many of Lufthansa’s issues are self-induced. Yet there has been no accountability for management. What has long amazed me about Lufthansa Group management (and in particular, Spohr) is how they talk about Lufthansa Group’s issues almost as if they’re independent, third party observers, and that nothing is within their control.

As someone who has been flying Lufthansa all my life, what stands out to me is how little the airline has evolved. It’s quite a contrast to carriers like Air France and even *gasp* British Airways.

What do you make of this Lufthansa profitability issue?

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  1. LovetoFly Guest

    Yet the Lufthansa Group had the money to invest €325 million Euro for a 41% stake in ITA another €28 million Euro in Air Baltic this year and LH also has made a bid for 49% of TAP Air Portugal.

    When you're throwing money at other European Carriers like LH has been doing over the past few years I can't blame LH employees for asking for their piece of the pie as well.

    1. Felix Guest

      There is a difference between LH Group and the LH Mainline.

  2. John Guest

    Lufty: I'm broke..
    SkyTrax: Awww...here, have another * for consistent perjury & hyperbole.
    Lufty: Yay! Me a genuine 7* airline now.

  3. leol Guest

    Lufthansa may just mirror the fact that Germany as a whole is not performing well

  4. Christian Guest

    You’re right and the solution seems simple enough: ALL pay and benefits for the CEO should be no more than 10X all median pay and benefits for the average employee, doubled if the airline reaches certain profitability and financial goals. Lower level executives would be compensated on the same basis but at lower rates.

  5. Robbie Guest

    Maybe if their airline wasn't a clown-filled circus that makes RyanAir feel premium they wouldn't be in such a mesS???

  6. Jaanus Guest

    It could also be just hollywood accounting. Airline itself is losing money but loyalty programme or something alike makes the whole group profitable.

  7. Maximus Prime Guest

    Well said, Ben.
    LH is a shadow of her former self.

    I am just wondering: neither are the LH fares cheap, nor are the planes empty - where is LH losing the money?
    C/Y to the US is still full-full, same to Asia.
    C/Y within Europe is regularly full and oversold. In Y you get water and a small piece of chocolate.
    My last OS flights have been worse than the...

    Well said, Ben.
    LH is a shadow of her former self.

    I am just wondering: neither are the LH fares cheap, nor are the planes empty - where is LH losing the money?
    C/Y to the US is still full-full, same to Asia.
    C/Y within Europe is regularly full and oversold. In Y you get water and a small piece of chocolate.
    My last OS flights have been worse than the ones with TP (in C!), just LX in their 777's is still OK-ish.

    They shall fire their top managers and hire some top managers from AFKL - look how their performance, hard- and soft product and overall image and revenue went up! As far as I remember it all started with a true "premium" strategy and Billion-invests.

  8. Simon Guest

    I've flown LH F once. I've had kinder and more attentive service in JL J. The FA bristled at my request for several apps and second helping of caviar. Didn't get to experience the fancy FRA F terminal, just F lounge in MUC (which seemed quite nice though my time there was limited).

    Meh

  9. Matt Guest

    LH doesn't need to be excellent. It has all the business contracts and a strangle on flights at FRA and MUC. It could be worse than Ryanair and it would still have a future. The government will bail it out anyway no matter what.

    Perhaps the Executive Board should also find some savings on their own bonuses.

  10. Martin O’Connor Guest

    Lufthansa employs 60 year old overweight ladies and guys for their stewardess programs. Literally no appeal for the average traveler these days.

    1. Ana Guest

      Are you under the mistaken impression that airplanes are strip clubs?

    2. Julia Guest

      People care more about the FAs job performance than their looks. At least, most people do.

    3. K helldoge Guest

      Not true at all. This is why Asian and Middle Eastern carriers are far better than murikan or European airlines.

    4. AeroB13a Guest

      Ana, Julia …. The more attractive the FA ‘eye candy’ the more appreciated and profitable the airline. You might not like the facts but look at the Airline World Rankings for conformation. Thereafter, please refrain from shooting this messenger …. :-)

    5. Christian Guest

      In the unlikely event that you’re right, so what? I’d rather get great service from a grandmother than inept service from some cute young woman.

      If you’re choosing your airlines and/or routes based on how attractive you find the flight attendants then you have substantial issues.

  11. shoeguy Guest

    Lufthansa is a mess. A tired brand with dated products. The Allegris set up is too complicated, overly engineered, and it doesn't make sense that they didn't go for something simpler. Their flagship premium brand LX, is also a study in mediocrity.

  12. Marios Guest

    Lufthansa offers the following:
    - crappy short haul economy service (basically, the same as Ryanair, you pay for everything)
    -crappy long haul business class (average, unremarkable service, fa’s who look like they would prefer to be elsewhere)
    -ridiculously basic lounges at their home airports, unbelievably disappointing.

    They need to address these issues, if they want to catch up with other airlines. Air France, KLM, BA all better…

    Best lounges in Europe offered...

    Lufthansa offers the following:
    - crappy short haul economy service (basically, the same as Ryanair, you pay for everything)
    -crappy long haul business class (average, unremarkable service, fa’s who look like they would prefer to be elsewhere)
    -ridiculously basic lounges at their home airports, unbelievably disappointing.

    They need to address these issues, if they want to catch up with other airlines. Air France, KLM, BA all better…

    Best lounges in Europe offered by Aegean in Athens, then KLM in Amsterdam. LH execs should go take a look and compare with their own…

    1. HonzaK Guest

      Well, this is a bit overstated. Both LX and LH lounges are perfectly fine. Not SQ style, but fine.
      I actively avoid LH C/F, but LX F I had always nice experience and staff and C mostly nice or at least standard. Not speaking about hard product, where C seats are really dated. But as for the service, it could be better for sure, but is OK for the price, which is constantly significantly...

      Well, this is a bit overstated. Both LX and LH lounges are perfectly fine. Not SQ style, but fine.
      I actively avoid LH C/F, but LX F I had always nice experience and staff and C mostly nice or at least standard. Not speaking about hard product, where C seats are really dated. But as for the service, it could be better for sure, but is OK for the price, which is constantly significantly lower than AF/KL. Which brings me to the quote of my boss “Good brands have stories, others have discounts”.

  13. AeroB13a Guest

    “Gasp” Thank you so much Ben, for cheering me up on what is such a dull afternoon here in the shires.
    You definitely have a sense of humour and proven that you possess a sense of adventure too. Your humour was displayed when you mentioned AF and BA in the same sentence. Your sense of adventure by doing so in the full knowledge that the website trolls will never forgive you for doing so.

    “Gasp” Thank you so much Ben, for cheering me up on what is such a dull afternoon here in the shires.
    You definitely have a sense of humour and proven that you possess a sense of adventure too. Your humour was displayed when you mentioned AF and BA in the same sentence. Your sense of adventure by doing so in the full knowledge that the website trolls will never forgive you for doing so.
    On a serious note …. crack on with your intentions to fly to Iraq and visit Baghdad, your feedback will be greatly appreciated by the adventurous amongst us.

  14. Super Diamond

    The Labor leaders should push for performance improvement plans for all of LH management as a response.

  15. David Guest

    Lufthansa is a total mess, no question about that.

  16. Jacob Guest

    This airline is all over the place.

    1. Luke Guest

      Seems a good place to be for an airline.

  17. Dylan Guest

    Kinda funny how they're saying this as they're trying to move a lot of functions from those profitable other airlines/divisions to their HQ.

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David Guest

Lufthansa is a total mess, no question about that.

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Maximus Prime Guest

Well said, Ben. LH is a shadow of her former self. I am just wondering: neither are the LH fares cheap, nor are the planes empty - where is LH losing the money? C/Y to the US is still full-full, same to Asia. C/Y within Europe is regularly full and oversold. In Y you get water and a small piece of chocolate. My last OS flights have been worse than the ones with TP (in C!), just LX in their 777's is still OK-ish. They shall fire their top managers and hire some top managers from AFKL - look how their performance, hard- and soft product and overall image and revenue went up! As far as I remember it all started with a true "premium" strategy and Billion-invests.

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Julia Guest

People care more about the FAs job performance than their looks. At least, most people do.

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