There’s a video going viral of a family reportedly being denied boarding on an American flight, with the father suspecting that this only happened because they were Jewish. Is there any truth to that, or what’s really going on here?
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Family arrives at gate, denied boarding despite open door
A man took to Twitter/X to share his experience flying with his wife and three kids on American. The post has now been viewed around seven million times, and when you add how many places it has been reposted, it has probably been viewed well over 10 million times across platforms.
This incident happened on April 21, 2025, and involves American flight AA1011, from Dallas (DFW) to New York (LGA), as the family was connecting from Cancun (CUN) the same day. As the man explains, they were last in line to board, and the person in front of them in line was allowed to board, while they weren’t. He clarifies that they weren’t on standby, and had “legitimate tickets.” So he asks “was it because we were Jewish,” because “we didn’t get any other valid reasons for it.”
In the roughly 60-second video, you can indeed see someone right in front of the family being rushed onto the aircraft, and the door being closed immediately behind her. The man starts recording the staff, noting how the person immediately in front of them was being boarded, to which the gate agent responds “you’re going to have to go down to the rebooking.”
When he asks “why is that,” a supervisor comments “sir, the door closes at ‘D’ minus 10, and you arrived late, that’s why we couldn’t put you on the flight.” The father responds with “I don’t understand, the door is still open,” and threatens to file a complaint.
What actually happened with this American gate incident?
Look, racism in travel absolutely happens, so I don’t want to dismiss that this could sometimes be a factor. I mean, we’ve seen American remove a group of Black men who didn’t know one another from a flight, simply because they were all Black, and it’s something the company even admitted.
However, in this case it sure seems like there’s a pretty straightforward explanation, though I understand it might not be obvious to a less frequent flyer. As you can see, while the man is talking to the American employees, the monitor says “flight closed.”
Airlines don’t close the door at departure time, but instead, typically close it a bit early, since departure time is supposed to be when the plane actually pushes back. Obviously they arrived at the gate within 10 minutes of the departure time (which is why the supervisor says “the door closes at ‘D’ minus 10”), and the flight had already been “closed out.”
Why would they let the woman in front of them onboard? Odds are good that she was actually on standby, and had been cleared at the last minute. As you can see, they closed the door immediately behind her. There’s a certain point at which they have to close out a flight, and remove those who aren’t there on time, so that they can print the final paperwork, and prepare for departure.
Now, there’s something to be said for potentially waiting a few minute for connecting customers, and it’s something that American is now increasingly doing. But when American doesn’t do that, it’s not because of racism, but instead, it’s because the airline has bad metrics, of valuing punctuality over everything else.
On the one hand, I can understand the man’s confusion. They were connecting from another flight, so it wasn’t their fault they were running late. When you see the door to a plane still open, you assume that means you can still board, if you have a confirmed ticket.
But it also seems a little disingenuous that the man automatically concludes it was them being Jewish that caused them to be removed, saying “we didn’t get any other valid reasons for it,” when the supervisor did try to provide an explanation.
In fairness, the supervisor could’ve also done a better job there. He used airline industry lingo like “‘D’ minus 10,” which means absolutely nothing to the average person. It would’ve been better if he maybe explained it a little differently:
“We require passengers to be at the gate 10 minutes before departure, because our departure time is when the aircraft is supposed to push back. Ahead of closing the door, we have to print paperwork for the crew and give a final passenger count, and since you weren’t at the gate at the time, we had to offload you. I’m sorry.”
This incident certainly isn’t a shining example of great customer service, but I also don’t see any reason to believe this was motivated by the passengers being Jewish. American has certainly left me behind in a similar way several times before, and I’ve never assumed that it’s because I’m gay, or whatever.
Bottom line
A frustrated family arrived at an American gate, only to find that the door was still open, but that they weren’t allowed to board. That’s despite the fact that the person immediately in front of them was allowed to board.
I understand the optics here can be confusing to a less frequent flyer, but it seems clear to me what was going on. The flight had been closed out, and the person immediately in front of them had probably just been cleared off standby. The ground staff printed the paperwork for the crew, and were ready to close the door.
Now, there’s an argument to be made that it would be good service to get these people back on the flight, and minimize disruptions. But I wouldn’t assume there was any ulterior motive here.
What do you make of this American gate incident at DFW?
It appears from the available information that this family was not late but on time, even if last on line. The facial expressions and displayed behavior of the AA staff exude disdain towards the passengers, is very revealing.
It appears from available information that it's inconclusive. Circumstantial evidence suggests they are late.
Being in line before your boarding pass is scanned means nothing.
If they had to wait behind a couple of people that means they arrived on time perhaps with a couple of minutes to spare
Just curious, but did this passenger have some special device that indicates there were no other Jewish passengers on the plane? This guy sounds like an entire fool.
These people have no shame. Everything is "RACIST" nowadays. No, they were late, simple as that. and LUCKY to say racism ABSOLUTELY HAPPENS in travel is completely irresponsible and incorrect to say. You're making it seem like it's a daily occurrence multiple times a day all around the world. That is complete hogwash. Do some things happen? Yes. Because a person has a different skin color or religion is it racist? No.
Please point to his statement that implied it happens as a daily occurrence multiple times a day globally. It appears that you see words that aren't written as it surely wasn't inferred. It does indeed happen, how often really doesn't matter. The fact is, it shouldn't ever happen.
@ ARPS I am still waiting for you to clarify this point you made several times:
"Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity which people can tell on sight. The other is an orientation which is not known unless revealed."
Again, please explain how someone can tell of someone's Jewish ethnicity 'on sight'. Or, in fact are the parallels that you say are...
@ ARPS I am still waiting for you to clarify this point you made several times:
"Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity which people can tell on sight. The other is an orientation which is not known unless revealed."
Again, please explain how someone can tell of someone's Jewish ethnicity 'on sight'. Or, in fact are the parallels that you say are 'incomparably different identifies' much clearer? In the sense that both a 'gay' and a 'jewish' (or muslim or christian or atheist) identity can be 'revealed' or hidden? Very unlike race or gender.
There is a big part of me that feels the world would be a much nicer place if individuals believed what they want to believe, pray who they want to pray to, love who they want to love without constantly broadcasting to the wider world 'this is what I believe and what I believe is the ONE TRUTH and even if I do not open my mouth and tell you, I will tell you by what I wear or the crucifix proudly displayed on my neck or....insert religious identifying item here..'
It's stories like these with claims of discrimination due to "insert group affiliation ". Now i have all the fatigues... black, gay, Jewish, crippled, fat, Muslim, etc. Please America, just stop.
Perhaps it is as simple as the standby was given their seat, so no point in reopening?
Unless he had a yarmulke on his head, do you really think that was part of the equation as to why he, his wife and kids didn’t get on? Jewish has nothing to do with it. If his flight from Cancun arrived late in Dallas he should have immediately asked the flight attendant on board the Cancun flight about what he should do to get his connection to LGA. His PNR would have INDICATED that...
Unless he had a yarmulke on his head, do you really think that was part of the equation as to why he, his wife and kids didn’t get on? Jewish has nothing to do with it. If his flight from Cancun arrived late in Dallas he should have immediately asked the flight attendant on board the Cancun flight about what he should do to get his connection to LGA. His PNR would have INDICATED that he was coming off of a flight from Mexico and the agent at the gate would have seen that. There is a missing part to this story so his story just “isn’t going to fly.” No pun intended
I didn't even read the article, but my goodness this comment section has one person battling everyone else.
Just a microcosm of the status of America's hopeless, polar current cultural / political 'wars' further incited by click-bait l. ...lol
He seems to have a pathological drive to wade in on every post in a futile effort to assert his self-determined moral and intellectual superiority over everyone else who contributes to this board. The best thing to do is scroll past - the bright red profile pic makes his posts easy to identify & avoid.
This guy is racist as hell to put it mildly
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Having spent too many days flying about the world, there’s a simple reason - IMO.
Flight is over sold. Four seats are available due to D - 10 minutes.
Build a bridge, get over it.
Wow. Looks like your time spent on planes wasn't spent on empathy lessons. "Get over it"?
Please, JoJo, take etiquette lessons.
Being a Jewish, the literal cheat code IRL.
How is this vile antisemitic comment still up?
@Arps
Because it isn't.
It is the truth.
Just your snowflake eyes are taking it as antisemitic.
Not making any excuses for AA but what we DONT know is whether the flight was oversold and the gate agents simply cleared standby passengers into the last remaining open seats at D -15 before the delayed family arrived at D -10. At that point, there is a near zero likelihood that the G.A. would offload the newly cleared standby passengers to accommodate the late arriving family.
We also dont know if AA proactively rescheduled...
Not making any excuses for AA but what we DONT know is whether the flight was oversold and the gate agents simply cleared standby passengers into the last remaining open seats at D -15 before the delayed family arrived at D -10. At that point, there is a near zero likelihood that the G.A. would offload the newly cleared standby passengers to accommodate the late arriving family.
We also dont know if AA proactively rescheduled the late arriving family to another flight and the G.A. did not communicate this to the family until after they completed closing out their flight at D -10.
They can deny the woman in front of the family boarding but they didn’t so it’s 100% racism, no need to doubt it.
Why would they deny boarding to a woman who just cleared standby, as the article posits?
Standbys can be booted after boarding if a confirmed passenger shows up. Standbys are only fully in the clear when the plane is in the air.
That is not how it ever works.
Absolutely not. As staff, I got some confirmed commercial pax seats as they literally arrived at the gate too late.
You’re late, we get your seat, now move over please.
Absolutely not. As staff, I got some confirmed commercial pax seats as they literally arrived at the gate too late.
You’re late, we get your seat, now move over please.
Ben, we can see that this is turning out to be another one of your infamous clickbate articles. I hope that you appreciate the efforts of both Apes and I for ramping up the numbers for you …. :-)
Correction …. “Clickbait” …. :-(
Hold on! I think I can be of some assistance here! LOL!
Ben, will be pleased with your effort Parker …. :-)
The passengers were actually there at D-10.
However, the American Airlines rule is you can lose seats at D-15. And that's what happened here, even though the gate agent said the rule was D-10 and that boarding had ended which it had not. Their seats were given to standby passengers at D-15.
As a former AA gate agent, I think it's important to consider that D-10 is the airline's rule for passenger service agents to close the flight. It offers 10 minutes for weight and balance planning to finalize and the final closeout to print before the door closes and the brake drops. The Ramp Manager on Duty (RMOD) has to blame each minute of a departure delay on one department or another. It could be maintenance...
As a former AA gate agent, I think it's important to consider that D-10 is the airline's rule for passenger service agents to close the flight. It offers 10 minutes for weight and balance planning to finalize and the final closeout to print before the door closes and the brake drops. The Ramp Manager on Duty (RMOD) has to blame each minute of a departure delay on one department or another. It could be maintenance or catering or baggage handling or awaiting crew. But if the agent closes the flight at D-9 or later and the flight pushes back from the gate after departure time, then it is likeliest that Passenger Service is going to get hit with that delay. Agents get written up by their supervisors for taking delays. Even a 1 minute delay.
These situations are the hardest. You, the agent, either follow the company's protocol to ensure that you are blameless in a delay, or you call/beg the tower to ask for permission to re-open the flight for a late connection -- presuming that you didn't already give their seats away to standbys (there's really no coming back from the latter; it takes too much time). Multiply this on a day when all kinds of things are running late, and it should be understandable why agents follow protocol for their own sake even when it inconveniences a customer in front of them.
Could this agent have been more communicative? Yes. Are there a whole series of things that agent still has to accomplish within that final 10 minutes that take precedence over rebooking? Yes. Are denied passengers patient and understanding in those cases? Almost never. I understand their frustration and their ignorance too. Not everything can be attended to at once.
Ditto -- I've been there too many times in the past as a former airline employee. Yours is a very well elucidated posting ! One of my worst dreads was being the only 1 at our ticket counter when the inevitable wAAy late pax would arrive. Although I'd emphasize and even bend the rules, waiving rebooking penalties, alot were downright A-holes and being ignorant of some airline common sense procedures was not an excuse for...
Ditto -- I've been there too many times in the past as a former airline employee. Yours is a very well elucidated posting ! One of my worst dreads was being the only 1 at our ticket counter when the inevitable wAAy late pax would arrive. Although I'd emphasize and even bend the rules, waiving rebooking penalties, alot were downright A-holes and being ignorant of some airline common sense procedures was not an excuse for their rudeness, especially when I'm trying to assist them ! I'd bet many of these people would also be the first to bitch if the plane left 5 minutes late... lol ...So glad I'm retired now !!
Thank you both for your very informative replies based on actual real world industry experience.
The flight is closed. Whether the door is open or closed makes no difference. I’ve sat on a plane with the door open after the flight has been “closed” for over an hour, that doesn’t mean gate agents can just take walk ups lol. The gate agent and the passenger both seem like an insufferable pair of assholes. Pretty standard for AA out of DFW.
Years ago I was travelling to your country and as it was an international trip I arrived at our sleepy airport three hours before the flight. The agent could not get logged into her computer so check in was delayed. She finally got online and I went through customs - pre cleared at departure. This took enough time for the same agent to run to the gate and deny me boarding as I was late....
Years ago I was travelling to your country and as it was an international trip I arrived at our sleepy airport three hours before the flight. The agent could not get logged into her computer so check in was delayed. She finally got online and I went through customs - pre cleared at departure. This took enough time for the same agent to run to the gate and deny me boarding as I was late. I am a white guy with no religious affiliation. Stuff happens to all of us. Was I happy. Not really. Did I play the white guy card. No. The supervisor spoke to me as she was booking me on a later flight and said it was supposed to be her first day off in six weeks until her trainee lost the plot and she had to come in. Again stuff happens. Be nice and roll with it.
Ben, please stick to your guidelines for posting. I scroll thru 59 replies and 15 are from the same person consistently, irrespective of topic.
There is no guideline to limit the number of comments. If you are requesting this for your own selfish convenience, shame on you. This website is provided free of charge to you, yet run at the expense of the owner who pays web hosting fees and the like. And you are calling for a reduction of engagement which translates to a reduction in revenue. You're asking the owner, who offers this site free to you,...
There is no guideline to limit the number of comments. If you are requesting this for your own selfish convenience, shame on you. This website is provided free of charge to you, yet run at the expense of the owner who pays web hosting fees and the like. And you are calling for a reduction of engagement which translates to a reduction in revenue. You're asking the owner, who offers this site free to you, to take home less money to appease you.
Although your comment is less odious than the deplorable antisemitism from others in this comment section, you have much to learn by way of etiquette.
This is to say nothing of the fact that my comments (which, I would point out, are also offered at no charge to you), are of incredible value because of my intelligence and my position in society.
Guilty too Fahr! …. :-)
How difficult is it to just scroll on past the 'offensive' postings not complying to your lofty standards ? .. Just put on those big boi panties and move on !
You can do it, I may the only one but I have the utmost confidence you're more than capable of doing so !
What …. ignore your gross ignorance? Surely now bossa, why should others not follow your example? At least some of us have the good grace to address our comments to the offending party …. to whom are you rabbiting on about, that is anyone’s guess?
Pretty clear what happened. He wasn't there at T -10, so they cleared the standbys. He shows up after they closed they flight and demands to be put on.
Zero chance this is racism.
This guy should be sued by American for defamation.
How to spot the abusive race card being used.
You broke the rules.
The rule doesn't apply to you.
Your launch your catch phrase.
Is/Was it because I'm..... (enter your entitlement heritage here.)
Some groups of people seems to have elevated inferiority complex issues.
"You broke the rules"
No!!!
Actually, had you read the article, AA messed up with a late arrival. AA should have better managed the transfer.
Your bias blinds you to details
Are you dumb or you stupid Dumbnato?
But one thing for sure, your entitlement is off the charts.
You blame AA being late arrival?
Why don't you blame them for booking a tight connection with THREE KIDS.
Things like this happen, rather than pointing fingers and playing victim, why not find a solution. It's not like AA is out there to hunt Jews like you believe.
You know I've been in...
Are you dumb or you stupid Dumbnato?
But one thing for sure, your entitlement is off the charts.
You blame AA being late arrival?
Why don't you blame them for booking a tight connection with THREE KIDS.
Things like this happen, rather than pointing fingers and playing victim, why not find a solution. It's not like AA is out there to hunt Jews like you believe.
You know I've been in this same situation many times with both outcomes.
On some days they bend the rules and let me on. Some days they enforce the rules and rebook me.
Worst even happened to me. They completed boarding but needed maintenance delay, I wasn't allowed on even after 10 minutes of rebooking me and they flight delayed 30 mins.
Don't blame AA for enforcing the rule everyone agreed to. And they did manage the transfer, they rebooked the family.
They were LATE.
It's not that I'm biased.
It's your entitlement that blinds you to detail.
Or may be I struck a nerve on you abusing race cards as normal behavior.
It's pretty clear to anyone who understands airline systems and procedures that there's logical explanation for what happened to this family and their reaction was that of a hammer seeing the world as a nail.
But, as usual, AA handled it badly too. "Shut up...too bad." creates animosity where this family needed assistance and explanation. Even if they were jerks, good customer service is taking care of them as best as possible within the...
It's pretty clear to anyone who understands airline systems and procedures that there's logical explanation for what happened to this family and their reaction was that of a hammer seeing the world as a nail.
But, as usual, AA handled it badly too. "Shut up...too bad." creates animosity where this family needed assistance and explanation. Even if they were jerks, good customer service is taking care of them as best as possible within the system as it exists. These people fed off that bad customer service and this blew up in a way that could have been easily prevented without letting them on the flight.
One of the biggest problems with bigotry, in all its forms, is that it creates a crutch for the self-entitled to claim persecution because of their race/gender/ethnicity/religion/etc when, in reality, they're just jerks having a bad day. And because jerks having a bad day claim persecution on the regular, we become inoculated against being outraged when it's truly meritted.
@ ARPS: Your post is full of so many errors.
"Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity which people can tell on sight. The other is an orientation which is not known unless revealed."
- So, you claim that I will always be able to tell a jewish person by looking at them??
"Counterfactually if the passengers were White would they have boarded? It...
@ ARPS: Your post is full of so many errors.
"Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity which people can tell on sight. The other is an orientation which is not known unless revealed."
- So, you claim that I will always be able to tell a jewish person by looking at them??
"Counterfactually if the passengers were White would they have boarded? It is easy to see that the gate agent could have acted with profuse apologies and made a few phone calls and reopened the flight. It has happened before, and it will happen again, disproportionately to white passengers."
- So here you are describing a hypothetical situation to suit your own narrative where an American Airlines agent will apologise, get on the phone and make some calls for late white passengers? Were the jewish passengers denied boarding 'white'?
Not discriminating against people is like someone claiming they don't judge anyone. Absolute BS. We are DNA hard wired to do both and are better to be able to realise when our subconscious or unconscious bias is kicking in instead of claiming to not make assumptions/discriminate/make judgements.
Saying that, what can we take from someone posting a picture of them trying to board a flight with a big sign that says 'Flight Closed' and then titles it 'is it because we are Jewish'.
Yes. I stand by what I said, 100%. Playing the racism card.
A Black Jewish friend of mine dell in the stairs yesterday and we concluded together that the stairs are racist.
And here come the Reparations! Oh wait this was not a German airline? In that case let's just go shoot some starving children in Gaza to make up for the Flight issues, will shooting dead 350 children be okay? Love playing the "victim" Card, Don't we?
Forever Victims, propaganda peddler of the first order. Fake login, fake portrayal of shootings in Gaza, yet not a word about the 1.5 MILLION children who were exterminated by the Nazis.
Answer for your crimes before even thinking about those of others …. Palestinian Hamas terrorist sympathiser or what?
2 wrong doesn't make it right.
But this Brit has the logic of Tim Dunn.
You are completely wrong there bro!
Tim has the logic formed by the propaganda peddled by a U.S. education system, followed by extensive work experience, etc, much like you too perhaps bro?
While my logic was formed by a sound UK childhood, excellent education system, decades of exposure to a vast range of life experiences including, world travel, military flying service, conflict and peacetime employment.
Hey Ben, four things.
1a) "Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity...
Hey Ben, four things.
1a) "Jewish" and "gay" are incomparably different identities - there is a false equivalence here. One is an ethnicity which people can tell on sight. The other is an orientation which is not known unless revealed.
1b) Even if arguendo the two identities were comparable, Jewish people have faced far worse atrocities throughout history and on an ongoing basis.
2) The history of commercial aviation does include instances of passengers allowed to board after a flight was initially closed. That is to say the gate agent very well could have let these passengers on. Empirically gate agents seem far more willing to do this for white passengers than for other minorities. As such this case is just another example of unconscious bias and structural racism.
3) Many racists, and Ben, I do not see you as racist, but to be sure, many racists reject all evidence of racism unless the perpetrator literally says "I am being racist" which, of course, never happens. To draw an analogy to the criminal courts, that philosophy is as ignorant as requiring evidence of guilt to be beyond any doubt instead of beyond reasonable doubt.
4) Civil courts have a much lower standard (preponderance of evidence) and something like that must apply to assessments of racism in society. The preponderance of evidence in this passenger's favor has been posted clearly and it is absolutely fair to raise at a minimum the question of whether the gate agent was discriminatory.
Counterfactually if the passengers were White would they have boarded? It is easy to see that the gate agent could have acted with profuse apologies and made a few phone calls and reopened the flight. It has happened before, and it will happen again, disproportionately to white passengers.
Systemic racism is real, white privilege is real, and the overwhelming majority of other commenters are in desperate need of education on the subject matter.
Apes …. give it up laddie …. on the other hand …. perhaps the reason why Ben has never ‘Timed’ you is because you are fantastic clickbait. Clever Ben.
@Aprs - if you can tell who is Jewish on first site you have a talent most people do not. Unless someone is wearing religious paraphernalia you really shouldn’t assume any religion.
Based on my skin tone, dress and features I have been assumed to be: white, Latino, Israeli, Arabic, Persian, Mediterranean, even Turkish. I’ve also been told I look Christian, Jewish and Muslim, among others.
And while you think people “look” Jewish...
@Aprs - if you can tell who is Jewish on first site you have a talent most people do not. Unless someone is wearing religious paraphernalia you really shouldn’t assume any religion.
Based on my skin tone, dress and features I have been assumed to be: white, Latino, Israeli, Arabic, Persian, Mediterranean, even Turkish. I’ve also been told I look Christian, Jewish and Muslim, among others.
And while you think people “look” Jewish I happen to think some people “look” gay. I call it “across the street gay.” And, yes, I am a big homo so nothing homophobic in my comments. I just think it’s important to laugh at yourself. Some days that “across the street gay” is me.
The dude that’s the subject of this post is weaponing antisemitism in a way that poops all over the struggles of people who have actually endured antisemitism.
Parker, the Apes is too ignorant of life to be taken seriously.
AwroB13a, I remember being that passionate and confident in my “rightness” to the point that it turned allies against me.
I have hope @Arps just needs time and perspective. If not, I’ll handle it like I handle all bullies. Directly and unambiguously.
If anyone is confused as to how is this fake lawyer who makes no sense is getting six likes already and previously impossibly high 19 likes, there is a reason.
This guy has at least three accounts here - Arps, IH8GARYLEFF, Ultra-high-net-worth.
Logging in and out to at least three different accounts multiple times a day, just to make your nonsense more appealing.
Exactly what a big law equity partner would do...
If anyone is confused as to how is this fake lawyer who makes no sense is getting six likes already and previously impossibly high 19 likes, there is a reason.
This guy has at least three accounts here - Arps, IH8GARYLEFF, Ultra-high-net-worth.
Logging in and out to at least three different accounts multiple times a day, just to make your nonsense more appealing.
Exactly what a big law equity partner would do 24/7.
If you think that using multiple accounts to generate likes or self liking comments is unfair, you're totally wrong.
The name changing intellectual and (self acclaimed) a long-term loyal commenter Proximanova, previously known as VT-CIE, states clear that you can self-like your comments, so can I, so this is apparently justified.
RE: "1b) Even if arguendo the two identities were comparable, Jewish people have faced far worse atrocities throughout history and on an ongoing basis."
There’s no hierarchy when it comes to human rights, and the same goes for discrimination.
You can’t rank people’s experiences of prejudice as if one matters more than another. All forms of discrimination are wrong - and all people deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and fairness, no matter who they are.
this family was WHITE....so how does your argument have any validity?
I have been on a connecting flight, same airline, with Business class seating on both legs, arrived at the second leg gate with just enough time to board for the second leg, and find out my seat has been sold away to another passenger, probably at a higher price than I paid. The "late", is not me being late, it's the same airline being late on their previous flight, which made me run to the...
I have been on a connecting flight, same airline, with Business class seating on both legs, arrived at the second leg gate with just enough time to board for the second leg, and find out my seat has been sold away to another passenger, probably at a higher price than I paid. The "late", is not me being late, it's the same airline being late on their previous flight, which made me run to the connecting flight. There were at least 15 people that were connecting same route I was, magically, only my Business class seats were the ones that were no longer in my name, given to "standby passengers". Everyone else on the same two itineraries boarded, my business seats seemed to be first up for auction.
As a gay mixed race guy that has faced discrimination for being both those minorities I cannot stand this BS.
Racism happens all the time. All this d*ck is doing is taking up bandwidth that makes people think 'oh hear they go again, playing the racism card' which in this case they absolutely are.
But it then becomes like the 'boy who cried wolf' and when a legitimate instance of blatant discrimination happens it...
As a gay mixed race guy that has faced discrimination for being both those minorities I cannot stand this BS.
Racism happens all the time. All this d*ck is doing is taking up bandwidth that makes people think 'oh hear they go again, playing the racism card' which in this case they absolutely are.
But it then becomes like the 'boy who cried wolf' and when a legitimate instance of blatant discrimination happens it is often just lost in the noise of ridiculous claims like this one.
Personally, I don't think he believes he was discriminated against either. I think his intentions are likely if he can make enough noise and gain enough traction probably be issued with an apology from AA 'sorry you were late and missed your flight' and a wad of AA miles.
Your personal identification with a discriminated group does not preclude you from discriminating against others. To wit, you being gay is irrelevant. You being mixed race is irrelevant.
Please educate yourself even if you identify with a marginalized group. Do not call others d*cks (that's just politeness) and never use the term "playing the racism card" (that's a bat signal among white racists).
Apes, you are the last person who posts on this site to assume that they might be in a position to lecture others about education.
Your moral compass has proven to be most definitely broken and your definition of politeness is most definitely flawed.
The problem is racism doesn’t just happen all the time. It exists all the time. And 99% of the time, people who act in a racist manner aren’t going to admit to it and have some plausible cover story. Which leaves the affected person unfortunately guessing at when they are being discriminated against and when it’s just the normal shit everyone has to deal with. You literally can’t win.
Yeah, antisemitic! Everything is now black and white.
Non sequitur. You appear to have zero sympathy or understanding of the livelihood of marginalized groups. Please educate yourself. Antisemitism is indeed rampant in the United States.
Apes, you are the last person who posts on this site to assume that they might be in a position to lecture others about education.
Your moral compass has proven to be most definitely broken and your definition of politeness is most definitely flawed.
Antisemitism is indeed rampant in the US. So is overreacting.
I’m gay. That doesn’t mean that everything someone does that I don’t like means they’re homophobic. It means they’re capable of doing something I didn’t like.
I say and do things my female friends don’t like. Doesn’t mean I’m sexist.
You live in a world of absolutes. Everything is black and white. That is not how the world works. It is a patchwork of glorious, beautiful shades of grey.
He does indeed have a solidly manichean world view. That’s unusual for a lawyer - they’re generally able to discern several thousand different shades of gray in any given situation.
Or AA thought they would miss their connection and removed them. I've had that happen, flight made up time, and even as a Oneworld Emerald they wouldn't put me back on the flight even though I arrived when they were only on Group 3. Maybe it was because I'm white?
I have also been prematurely removed from connections I could have made, and not just on AA. As to your final question, shame on you. Absolute shame. You mock people who are treated worse in ways you can't even fathom. As a white person you had every systemic advantage in the United States and you should've made something like equity (law)/senior (MBB) partner, principal (PE)/managing director (BB). Your income should be in the 8 figures...
I have also been prematurely removed from connections I could have made, and not just on AA. As to your final question, shame on you. Absolute shame. You mock people who are treated worse in ways you can't even fathom. As a white person you had every systemic advantage in the United States and you should've made something like equity (law)/senior (MBB) partner, principal (PE)/managing director (BB). Your income should be in the 8 figures at a minimum. Yet I have read your posts and you described yourself as a on-the-ground airline employee. As someone WHITE in America? Absolute loser you are.
Educate yourself on structural racism and please do better.
Apes, you are the last person who posts on this site to assume that they might be in a position to lecture others about education.
Your moral compass has proven to be most definitely broken and your definition of politeness is most definitely flawed.
How many "law)/senior (MBB) partner, principal (PE)/managing director (BB)" (or people with 8 figure incomes) positions exist in America, and how many white people are there in America?
Enjoyable comments as always, was wondering how many I'd have to read before you shoehorned some salary ramblings and income/job shaming into your otherwise well thought out points of race, religion, and discrimination.
It’s borderline word salad, and reveals once more his obsessive fantasies of unlimited money and unlimited power.
His own video has the following attached:
“Readers added context
The woman in front was likely pre-cleared on the flight from standby. The family arriving late (board says “Flight Closed”) missed the manifest lock.
Federal Rules: FAA/TSA require a final manifest before takeoff; adding passengers after that is not allowed.”
Likely being the operative word, those MAGA clowns on X have no clue what they're talking about.
…. and you think that you are of sound enough mind to lecture others Apes?
Trump should look into it - appears to be antisemitism at AA just like at Harvard ;)
Always happy to play the victim/race/religion/etc card.
Your quip is so tiresome. "Playing the card" sounds like a creative original metaphor until you realize people saying it are just regurgitating it because they have no capacity for their own creative thought. In this case those people are also malicious and unempathetic. This is exactly why social campaigns like "Believe women," despite seeming incredibly obvious, had to be started.
Apes! You have the audacity to accuse someone of “Regurgitating a creative original metaphor“, that is all your post consist of …. regurgitated nonsense.
Is it because I'm Jewish that I didn't get a free upgrade to First on my Eco Basic ticket?
Oy vey!
Not only is this an unfunny joke it crosses the threshold into mockery of a nasty stereotype. Please don't ever say this again. Do better.
And take a comedy class while you're at it !
LMAO !!! No redundant comedy class needed. Already at post-graduate level... lol
Cirrus, worry not, Apes is a fake contributor to this blog who thinks that he is being funny.
Forgive it for aping around like the demented numpty it is.
Yeah something like half the comments seem to be from this one troll and he likely has multiple socks too.
Oh stop race baiting. It had nothing to do with them being Jewish.
Kindly stop playing the race card.
Wow! The only things most human beings know for sure are death and taxes. Here you are proclaiming you know a third. Shall we contact the Guinness Book of World Records?
Yet another example of entitled flyers who make it 209 times worse by blowing the -ist dog whistle. As a double minority this kind of sh!t teally irritates me. Sometimes they are just following the rules, distasteful as that may be.
Always Jews being Jews .....be on time... It's getting old being the victim always, we just don't buy it anymore
The first four words of this comment make it, and therefore you, unambiguously unequivocally bigoted.
Agreed.
Agreed.
And I unambiguously unequivocally don't care
They were late. If passengers haven’t showed up around the 10 minute mark the gate agents will cue standby passengers just behind the jet bridge and at T-10 the gate door shuts and the standby passengers are whisked down the jetbridge with the gate agent to board and have the door to the plane closed for an on time departure.
Well the people missed their connecting flight by seconds and happened to be Jewish.
That's exactly why systemic racism thrives. So easy to brush it off as a coincidence here even though we have seen gate agents bend over backwards for white passengers.
Thank you Ben, also to the other antisemitic commentators for pointing out the challenges of flying with U.S. airlines.
Don't fly, stay home then .... Geez
Absolutely Jd,
Just one more DEN mission for my masters and then bye, bye, USA for a while.
Will you miss me sweet pea?
No, we've never missed or will miss you. So long!
I'm already having separation anxiety ! ... Who will be there to defend us against our uttahly ludicrous 'nemesis'??
Ya bloody well not evah leave us, bloke !
~~A 'sweet pea' that does not intend to spoil .... lol
"challenges" of flying on US airlines? Just show up on time and you wont have a problem...
Because they were
Insert
Jewish
Black
Disabled
Arabic
No
Because they were late
Completely agree, they always want to play being the victims....all of them Jews, blacks, etc
"...they always want to play being victims"? Please do not lump me and the 95+% of people who don't play victim in with the few who do.
Airlines are happy to make everyone wait for a hour while they sort out a delay one moment, but won’t take another 3-4 minutes to get these passengers into their seats???
T-minus 10 minutes when it suits the airline. Dicks.
Airlines are not happy to delay flights.
There’s a knock on effect for everyone who managed to be there on time.
Delay that flight and then it arrives late causing missed connections
Dick
Agreed .... But I try to have some mercy for the ignorant flying public. I'm not even an airline apologist and airlines aren't benevolent charities.
That 1st launch departing flight can/will have the knock-on effects throughout its day. Possibly snowballing to a late evening cancellation ( curfew restrictions, crew duty time for instance ). Given all the challenges of the operating environment ( weather, mechanical, operational technology, ATC, Crew timing/contracts, governmental regulations ) every...
Agreed .... But I try to have some mercy for the ignorant flying public. I'm not even an airline apologist and airlines aren't benevolent charities.
That 1st launch departing flight can/will have the knock-on effects throughout its day. Possibly snowballing to a late evening cancellation ( curfew restrictions, crew duty time for instance ). Given all the challenges of the operating environment ( weather, mechanical, operational technology, ATC, Crew timing/contracts, governmental regulations ) every minute counts and the line has to be drawn somewhere. Some pax win, some pax lose, just like the airlines & their staff.
Sure Ronald. Hold a full flight with empty seats for late passengers. Is that what they taught you at Vassar ? To be always right when you’re wrong ? You comment like a schmuck on this blog.
Why do you assume that there were seats to be given?
These people were late. When you're late, the airline moves to the standby list. For all you know, they'd confirmed standbys, and there were no seats left.
I’ve been in a similar situation to the person rushed onto a closing flight as a single passenger who had been off loaded it was easy for the agent to quickly re issue my boarding pass and rush me down the bridge, unfortunately a family of 4 will take a bit longer and possible they had already given seats to standby passengers.
This is classic case of "I'm special, the rules don't apply to me". If the sign says "flight closed" it means no more passengers. Period. The woman who went in front of him is irrelevant, he doesn't know her situation and jumping to a racist conclusion is unfair to the airline.
Good job on the gate agents keeping professional and not getting into it with the entitled d*bag
The nerve to pull a race card with minority gare agents is just wow.
The jews complaining again.What a surprise and I was born Jewish and chose to be an atheist because cannot stand how hypocritical all religion is.
I know you are being willfully racist, and shame on you, but for the sake of education for the rest of this audience, "Jewish" is both a religion and an ethnicity. Many Jews are atheist.
How did he conclude that the agent knew he was Jewish? As a (visible) minority who faces all sorts of discrimination, two things come to my mind. First, when people experience discrimination all the time, eventually they end up into conclusion that it is about their race or gender or whatever they have been discriminated on because it happens so many times without a valid reason. Many people just blame them and brush it off...
How did he conclude that the agent knew he was Jewish? As a (visible) minority who faces all sorts of discrimination, two things come to my mind. First, when people experience discrimination all the time, eventually they end up into conclusion that it is about their race or gender or whatever they have been discriminated on because it happens so many times without a valid reason. Many people just blame them and brush it off by saying hey stop the victim mentality and get over it but I tend to think that the customer service should be aware of this and be mindful about that instead of just blaming them. Second, when a valid reason like this was given, I still see some people use race or gender or whatever to get what they want even when it is at their fault. That is really disappointing because they harm the hard work all the people have done to fight these injustices. Sadly, this happened with Jews more than I wanted to see. Remember the guy with star in Germany?
A nothing burger. They were late; the flight was closed out. Don't play the Jewish card....
If he did not add “because they are Jewish”, this won’t get viral.