What I Like Least About American, Delta, And United

What I Like Least About American, Delta, And United

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There’s no denying that the “big three” US carriers aren’t always popular with consumers. I’ve written posts dedicated to the things that I like about American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and United Airlines. After all, there’s no perfect airline, and they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

On a slightly less positive note, in this post I wanted to share what I like least about each of the “big three” US carriers. Most of my points are intended to be more big picture, though in a couple of cases I’ll share specific shortcomings of the experience offered by each airline. I’ll provide my take, and then I’m curious to hear what OMAAT readers think.

What I like least about American Airlines

There are two things I like least about American — the lack of a strategy, and the carrier’s international route network.

First and foremost, American lacks a strategy. Executives at the airline claim that the carrier’s product is its schedule, and indeed, American has an extensive domestic route network. But that’s about the extent of it. While both Delta and United are trying to be premium airlines and improve the passenger experience, American seems to be trying to compete with ultra low cost carriers more than anything else.

All of that is great, except for the fact that the airline has high labor costs and has tens of billions of dollars in debt. It’s weird, because the airline selectively invests in being premium, but then also makes the decision to rip TVs out of narrow body aircraft.

Obviously this lack of a strategy also isn’t good for employee morale, as people don’t actually know what kind of a product they’re supposed to be delivering. What’s the mission that American employees are supposed to get behind? “Our schedule is our product?” It’s not clear how employees fit into that, short of running a punctual operation.

I feel like there’s value in having some semi-consistent strategy. For example, United has committed to becoming a more premium airline, increasing the number of premium seats across the fleet, and modernizing cabins.

American Airlines planes at Chicago O’Hare Airport

Second of all, American is the largest airline in the world by some metrics, yet almost unarguably has the blandest international route network of the “big three” US carriers.

It’s borderline depressing to compare the route networks of American and United. While United flies to places ranging from Cape Town, to Singapore, to Tahiti, American seems content just being a massive domestic airline, with a limited long haul international network.

American Airlines Boeing 787

What I like least about Delta Air Lines

There are three things that I like least about Delta — hubris, the SkyMiles program, and Boeing 767s.

First of all, let’s talk about hubris. I think Delta is better than American and United in terms of customer service. Most Delta employees genuinely seem to like their jobs, and they know how to take care of customers. They’re also invested in the success of the company, thanks to the size of profit sharing payouts.

However, I can’t help but feel like the company lacks humility. Delta is slightly better than the competition. Delta management not only knows that, but in my opinion management thinks they’re better by a bigger margin than they actually are.

Now, funny enough, in my post about things Delta does well, I talked about how the airline has a clear vision of being premium, and I pointed out how Delta so strongly marketing itself as premium is probably a good thing for the company’s bottom line. But still, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a bit off-putting for the airline to be so full of itself.

Delta Air Lines Airbus A350 business class

Next up is Delta SkyMiles. While American AAdvantage and United MileagePlus are far from perfect, personally I find SkyMiles to offer the least value for those looking for aspirational redemptions. While I can appreciate the simplicity of SkyMiles, and that Delta has basically turned its miles into a currency worth a cent each, the lack of aspirational redemption opportunities makes me have almost no interest in the program.

Hey, I’m not saying the reality of Delta SkyMiles is necessarily bad for the carrier’s bottom line, but as a consumer, I sure don’t love it.

Delta Air Lines Airbus A220 first class

Lastly, Delta’s Boeing 767 fleet is a major disadvantage. For the most part, Delta has older planes than American, but maintains them well. The exception is Boeing 767s, which are Delta’s most common wide body aircraft. Delta has 65 Boeing 767s, which is more aircraft than Delta’s entire Airbus A350-900 and Airbus A330-900neo fleet.

In my opinion, these offer the worst wide body business class experience that you’ll find on any of the “big three” US carriers. Now, admittedly not all planes are created equal. Delta’s 767-300s are much worse than the 767-400s, but even the 767-400 seats are really narrow. I think just about anyone (except one person) would agree that there’s a night and day difference between the business class product on Delta’s 767-300s and United’s 767-300s.

Delta Air Lines Boeing 767 business class

What I like least about United Airlines

There are two things that I like least about United — that service could be better, and Wi-Fi.

Let’s start with service. I think United is actually the US airline most trending in the right direction. The airline has an amazing route network, and is investing in its onboard experience and in premium capacity. In many ways I’d argue that United is a more compelling airline nowadays than Delta, with one major catch — service.

If you ask me, United is in the same league as American when it comes to service, and not in the same league as Delta. Following the Dr. Dao incident, former United CEO Oscar Munoz spent a lot of his time talking about how United had some customer service renaissance under his leadership.

While it’s true that people aren’t being dragged off United flights, United’s alleged radical customer service transformation simply doesn’t match my experience. Like every other airline, there are good apples and bad apples. But in my experience the customer experience that United offers in no way rivals what you’ll find at Delta.

Don’t get me wrong, United has some really lovely flight attendants (especially some of the ones that have been there forever), but to suggest that the culture has evolved significantly and that United employees are consistently friendly simply puzzles me. That largely might just come down to the carrier’s profit sharing arrangement — employees aren’t as aligned with the company’s success as Delta’s employees.

If United could get on Delta’s level when it comes to customer service, that would be a game changer. But it’s also not easy to change a company’s culture in that way.

United Airlines Boeing 787 business class

Second of all, for an airline so focused on the premium business traveler, the current state of United’s Wi-Fi offering is awful. American and Delta are simply in a different league when it comes to the speed and reliability of high speed Wi-Fi, while United has a lot of catching up to do there. While I know this is something that United is working on, the airline still has a long way to go.

United Airlines Boeing 737 MAX first class

Bottom line

After writing posts about all of the good things about the “big three” US carriers, I figured it was only fair to share my major criticisms of the airlines as well. I’m not saying any of the above are the single biggest problems at the airlines, though when I think of the negatives of the above three airlines, those are the first things that come to mind.

I’m curious to hear how OMAAT readers feel — do you disagree with any of my takes? What do you like least about each of the “big three” US carriers?

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  1. Kyle Guest

    I'm curious to know how exactly you define customer service. It seems, based on your description of Delta, it's about niceness and attentiveness of staff. That's fair. But there's an enormous piece of customer service that everyone seems to leave out of these types of analyses: the airline's response when something goes wrong. I think United actually has the edge here. And the app factors into this as well. If you miss a connection, or...

    I'm curious to know how exactly you define customer service. It seems, based on your description of Delta, it's about niceness and attentiveness of staff. That's fair. But there's an enormous piece of customer service that everyone seems to leave out of these types of analyses: the airline's response when something goes wrong. I think United actually has the edge here. And the app factors into this as well. If you miss a connection, or are about to miss a connection, the app proactively gives you a bunch of options for getting to your destination. Plus, if you call customer service, they will even put you on other Star Alliance flights.
    Don't get me wrong, friendliness and niceness are great. But when it comes down to it, I'd exchange these qualities for consistently good remedies for missed connections (which are, of course, the most common issue when flying). Obviously both would be better, but we are dealing with the airline industry after all.

  2. Franklyn Guest

    I may have missed a comment asking this but I will anyway.

    IWhen was the last time you flew United..from what I can tell with a quick search you haven't flown Polaris in at least 3 years.

    So I'm confused (unless you fly domestic and don't post here) how you can make a comment on service when you don't fly them?

    I mainly fly domestic with the occasional upgrade to first...a "please" hello how are...

    I may have missed a comment asking this but I will anyway.

    IWhen was the last time you flew United..from what I can tell with a quick search you haven't flown Polaris in at least 3 years.

    So I'm confused (unless you fly domestic and don't post here) how you can make a comment on service when you don't fly them?

    I mainly fly domestic with the occasional upgrade to first...a "please" hello how are you" "and your name is" "thank you name" makes any person pleasant and I have received consistent friendly service. (Mind you I'm 1k and a million miler)

    So...my question is. What was your last United flight?

    Second. I had to fly Delta once. Literally at the check in counter they are hawking their credit cards even when I said "I normally fly united". Didn't even get on the plane before the credit card speel was given. As you might be able to tell, that left A bad taste.

  3. NWA Guest

    I've never had a complaint about Delta, but my last flight with them reaches back into the period before air travel got ridiculously bad in America. I will pay more for a fare when the lower fare is a hard no, or the higher fare on a better airline isn't an order of magnitude higher. But I can't even recall seeing Delta in the list of carriers for a route recently, so I'm seldom even rejecting them on the basis of price. I'm just not flying on those routes.

  4. El Chimichanga Guest

    I can't tolerate United because of their hub cities, San Francisco, Chicago, Denver, Houston.

    Really. These are just crime centers, bad and always getting worse. No excuses, I'll name a list of cities where the worst Americans live, United operates out of those places.

    If there's an issue with a gang in the airport or onboard, the flight crew, hired out of those cities, inevitably takes up the noise themselves.

  5. VD Guest

    You could have added disgusting catering, for all three of them…

  6. Geneva Karr Guest

    Amazing how much of a troll one person can be, Tim Dunn. No one cares what he thinks but his hubris and insistence upon replying to everyone regardless of mental clarity is unparalleled. For someone other's have pointed out is fired from Delta... there's a mental issue with him.

    Tim, you're a troll.

  7. Bo Guest

    For AA, you could add the AI bot that's now used to answer all customer service complaints on their website. There's no longer a way to reach a human being if something happens that needs to be fixed.

  8. Ken Guest

    I have in the recent past flown both domestically and internationally on all three airlines. I view American as a way to get from point A to B with little expectation of much more than a seat. I have not noticed much difference in service between Delta and United; I've had great service on both. I don't care about WiFi as I enjoy the respite from the digital world during my flights.

  9. Icecreamcono Guest

    Idk, I feel like high labor costs are more important than seatback screens with terrible audio, but maybe that’s just me?

  10. Jim from PHL Guest

    The worst thing about United is its catering. The worst thing about both AA and Delta are their websites and apps in comparison to UA. This is one area where no-one can disagree, as UA is leap years ahead of the competition.

    1. Zach B Guest

      I had a friend describe United catering as mediocre hospital or retirement home food

  11. Ron Rice Guest

    DELTA: "Management thinks they're better by a bigger margin than they actually are." "So full of itself." Sadly this attitude starts from the top. Just listen to the analysts/investors conference call or see the leadership on TV. The rank and file, it seems, carry the "we're the best" chip on their shoulder. Any special request is often rejected outright with the justification of "company policy," even if such requests are considered fair and accommodated where...

    DELTA: "Management thinks they're better by a bigger margin than they actually are." "So full of itself." Sadly this attitude starts from the top. Just listen to the analysts/investors conference call or see the leadership on TV. The rank and file, it seems, carry the "we're the best" chip on their shoulder. Any special request is often rejected outright with the justification of "company policy," even if such requests are considered fair and accommodated where possible by other airlines, including low-cost carriers. It's undeniably off-putting. Pride is admirable, but it should never cross the line into hubris.

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  12. ORD_Is_My_Second_Home Diamond

    Your opinion on Delta's customer service is yours. My experience has been that unless you're a Diamond (or a blogger), Delta treats you like garbage. The FAs regard you as an inconvenience to them, and the ground service has been poor to non-existent. This has been a regular experience of mine when I've been forced to fly them.

    1. Tim Dunn New Member

      and tell us how much experience you actually have on Delta given your user name and the comments you have made about flying Delta before.

      Anecdotes and personal preference is fine - but it is YOUR opinion and pure data proves that your experience is not what the majority of US airline customers experience which simply means we all have to ask why you see the world so much differently than everyone else.

      Perhaps it is the United paycheck?

  13. Geneva Karr Guest

    I'm surprised ATL didn't come up in this. I avoid that airport at all costs. If I wanted to connect in 7 double wide trailers lined up, I'd go to a trailer park, I don't need an airport modeled after one.

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  14. Trevor Guest

    Stop wring “in my opinion.” We know it’s your opinion and there are other ways you can express that.

    1. Tim Dunn New Member

      I'm glad he DOES say "in my opinion" because it is clear that his views are subjective and not based on rationality or logic.

      And it also allows everyone else to come to their own equally valid conclusions based on their own irrationality and bias.

      and we all get to share it and put a few pennies in Ben's pocket in the process.

      Ben may be biased as much as anyone else but he does understand how this site works - which is to pay his bills.

  15. Joseph Guest

    I describe American as an Ohio-themed airline. Completely banal, sort of a grey color that always looks dirty. (Sorry Ohio. I’m sure it’s a really dynamic place in the real world and my description is totally inaccurate. I’ll try it sometime so I can be proved wrong.)

    That said, I prefer the AA model over the UA/DL models. I love the expansiveness of the AA flight map because I have to fly to places like...

    I describe American as an Ohio-themed airline. Completely banal, sort of a grey color that always looks dirty. (Sorry Ohio. I’m sure it’s a really dynamic place in the real world and my description is totally inaccurate. I’ll try it sometime so I can be proved wrong.)

    That said, I prefer the AA model over the UA/DL models. I love the expansiveness of the AA flight map because I have to fly to places like Greensboro or CWA a lot more than I have to fly to Tahiti.

    That brings me to my next point. I strongly prefer to fly on the international partner metal v AA. You really want to fly on UA over Qantas to Australia? Or UA over JAL to Japan? ow Emerald seems more meaningful to partner airlines than Exec P does to AA and a lot more fun to fly something more exotic. I would rather have the novelty of flying Air Tahiti Nui than UA.

    1. ORD_Is_My_Second_Home Diamond

      I did fly UA to Australia and had a great experience. I'm a 1K and they treated me right. Your experience may vary.

  16. ClownDancer Guest

    I made a huge mistake once and bought tickets off expedia for delta economy flight from houston-japan-manila. Prior to that i always went straight to the airline for tickets. SIA, EVA, Asiana, Emirates, Korean Air, United, and one of the airlines with China in the name are airlines i have used previously. I had to change my flight. Expedia quoted Delta at $4000usd cheapest economy one way. I tried different days. Different months. The Expedia...

    I made a huge mistake once and bought tickets off expedia for delta economy flight from houston-japan-manila. Prior to that i always went straight to the airline for tickets. SIA, EVA, Asiana, Emirates, Korean Air, United, and one of the airlines with China in the name are airlines i have used previously. I had to change my flight. Expedia quoted Delta at $4000usd cheapest economy one way. I tried different days. Different months. The Expedia agent kept apologizing. He said it was Delta charging $4000.00. Of course I picked a different airline. There was no reason for Delta to do this. I could go to Delta site and find something for around 1400.00 one way. Of course i eill nevrr use expedia and will try to not use Delta. They are thieves.

  17. Rick Guest

    The service on US carriers is abhorrent. I commute between the US and Middle East and the difference is laughable. It’s like a 1st grade girls soccer game compared to a professional men’s game. Not even in the same league. I attribute it to 1 thing: unions. Unions are the highway to laziness and the pathway to entitlement. The crew on Middle East and Asian airlines are customer oriented, no “Me” oriented which is what...

    The service on US carriers is abhorrent. I commute between the US and Middle East and the difference is laughable. It’s like a 1st grade girls soccer game compared to a professional men’s game. Not even in the same league. I attribute it to 1 thing: unions. Unions are the highway to laziness and the pathway to entitlement. The crew on Middle East and Asian airlines are customer oriented, no “Me” oriented which is what unions do. With my Middle East friends and colleagues, we laugh all the time any time someone has to take a US airline. Not just customer service but food, seats, and just about everything else is superior elsewhere.

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  18. Robert Fahr Guest

    @Ben. Anyone who reads a travel blog does not need "big three" in quotation marks.

  19. Tony W Guest

    This is one of your best article series ever. I agree with almost all of your conclusions, although in some cases I might have emphasized a couple of other points (on both the positive and negative sides).

  20. FlyerDon Guest

    The biggest gripe I have with AA is the amount of regional jets they use domestically and to Mexico and the Caribbean.

  21. cairns Guest

    What you didn't mention are the alliances of each of these airlines. Delta's is by far the worst. UAL and AA's are excellent in comparison.

    Frankly neither Delta or their alliances go anywhere I'm interested in visiting or couldn't get to on a much better airline.

    1. Tony W Guest

      I agree. Star Alliance and the United app are the best aspects, with a special guest appearance by Turkish Airlines. Now if only you could buy a transatlantic Turkish flight from United.com or the United app... same problem as with SAS as it's been forever (and now SAS is leaving for SkyTeam anyway, so hopefully they'll be better integrated there...)

  22. BookLvr Diamond

    My biggest complaint with all three of these airlines is the surcharges when flying economy.

    I do not like having to pay extra to select my seat and pay extra to check a bag. This is an area where in my opinion Southwest has the right idea. I want to be about to compare all-inclusive prices from one flight to another.

    The fees lead to other problems:
    The charging to check a bag...

    My biggest complaint with all three of these airlines is the surcharges when flying economy.

    I do not like having to pay extra to select my seat and pay extra to check a bag. This is an area where in my opinion Southwest has the right idea. I want to be about to compare all-inclusive prices from one flight to another.

    The fees lead to other problems:
    The charging to check a bag thing leads more people to try to bring their bag on board to save $35, which leads to more arguing over bin space. The rush to get that bin space leads more people to be in a big hurry to board even if it is not time for their boarding group.

    I get why there would be fees for people traveling with an extraordinary amount of luggage, but charging to check a single suitcase is borderline absurd.

  23. Lee Guest

    Of course these articles are subjective impressions. Ben's blog, Ben's subjective impressions. What the (heck) should anyone expect? Read it, agree or disagree, and move on with life.

    1. Tim Dunn New Member

      He has a comment section because interactions produce page clicks. Everyone gets to write what they want.

  24. AdamH Guest

    AA's standby policy should be on this list.

  25. Nico_Aviation New Member

    Ben - I sent you an IG DM about this, but it probably wasn't seen in the requests. I have an interesting story that could be assembled, connecting to American's Flagship "Service" and things not liked about American. I always avoid American, but OMG...I've never had such a horrendous "premium" experience.

  26. IntlBizTraveler Guest

    While agreed with most of the list, your hate on DLs 767s are just a proof point of you not flying economy. 767s are still the best non-carbon fiber wide body for regular passengers with the 2-3-2 layout.

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  27. DCS Diamond

    The problem with both this post on the shortcomings of the US "Big Three" airlines and the 3 prior posts titled "N Things X Airline Does Well" is that the metrics by which the various features are judged are highly subjective, especially given that the writer has a preferred airline that he gives most of his business to and has elite status with.

    As an illustration, while the post on "12 Things United Airlines Does...

    The problem with both this post on the shortcomings of the US "Big Three" airlines and the 3 prior posts titled "N Things X Airline Does Well" is that the metrics by which the various features are judged are highly subjective, especially given that the writer has a preferred airline that he gives most of his business to and has elite status with.

    As an illustration, while the post on "12 Things United Airlines Does Well" did not even list UA's PlusPoints upgrades among the top 12, I, as a UA Million Miler and 1K until this year, would have ranked PlusPoints upgrades at the very top of my list because, in my experience, which I can document, PlusPoints upgrades are not at all "tough to come by" like AA and DL cabin upgrades. In fact, I would say that I had more success clearing PlusPloints upgrades, domestic or international, than I ever did clearing UA's systemwide upgrades.

    Also, considering that for many years the writer/forum host was banned from flying with UA, how much credibility does he have when he lists, e.g., UA "service" among things that he likes least about the airline?

    Just another perspective to consider.

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  28. Julia Guest

    "There are two things that I like least about United — that service could be better, and Wi-Fi."

    I'd add inconsistent catering to that list. Getting better? Maybe, but definitely not as good as it was 5 or 6 years ago...there was a decline even before covid cutbacks.

    Not surprised that u-know-who is arguing against Lucky's opinions on the greatest airline in the history of time.

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  29. Dim Tunn Guest

    Is Tim Dunn going to survive this post?

  30. DesertGhost Guest

    This reads more like a critique of the airline's differing business models than a simple list of don't likes. To that point, you've been the CEO of how many airlines?

    You have a right to like or dislike anything. After all, there's no accounting for taste.

    While I have to acknowledge your expertise on travel, points and miles, I have to question your qualifications to criticize airlines' business models and strategies.

    When...

    This reads more like a critique of the airline's differing business models than a simple list of don't likes. To that point, you've been the CEO of how many airlines?

    You have a right to like or dislike anything. After all, there's no accounting for taste.

    While I have to acknowledge your expertise on travel, points and miles, I have to question your qualifications to criticize airlines' business models and strategies.

    When did having different business models become a felony?

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  31. Jonathan Persky Guest

    My biggest gripe with AA is that if you want to do a Same Day Confirmation or go standby you must follow the exact routing, including connecting city.

  32. EthaninSF Gold

    I would add another to the list of gripes with United - their catering. Neither AA or DL's catering is in line with international competitors, but UA has got to have the smallest budget of the three when it comes to meals. I mean, I get that it's airline food, but does it have to look like a three month old frozen meal with plastic wrapped bread?

  33. digital_notmad Diamond

    Spot on analysis; particularly with respect to DL (and, note also that each of their liabilities are intertwined; they could fix a lot of their image issues by fixing the hubris, but they won't)!

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  34. Tim Dunn New Member

    and it is laughable to argue that DL is defined by hubris when it is Scott Kirby that has taken trashing everyone else including the DOT, FAA and Boeing to heights never seen by any other airline exec.
    And, ironically, UA execs frequently compare themselves FAVORABLY to DL.

    but someone thinks that DL execs - who never compare DL or themselves to any other airline by name - shows hubris?
    Beyond stunning what comes out of some people's mouths - or off their pens.

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  35. Tim Dunn New Member

    yes, it is fair to note the dislikes - but should have been done as part of each of the "likes" articles.
    first, the same question which I have raised on every one of these "what I like and dislike" series deserves to be asked here: how much have you, Ben, flown on any of these airlines and what status do you have in any of their loyalty programs. If you can't or won't...

    yes, it is fair to note the dislikes - but should have been done as part of each of the "likes" articles.
    first, the same question which I have raised on every one of these "what I like and dislike" series deserves to be asked here: how much have you, Ben, flown on any of these airlines and what status do you have in any of their loyalty programs. If you can't or won't prove that, then your likes and dislikes are less meaningful than a lot of your readers that actually do have broad-based experience with multiple airlines across multiple cabins.

    specific to what you have written, though, the fixation with size is, quite frankly, troubling even though it is prevalent in the airline industry - and almost exclusive a male phenomenon.
    According to DOT data - don't even start the childish arguments, max - DL's international route system made more money than any others in just the first 9 months of 2023 which is as much as they have released. UA's was not far behind - at about 95% - but far less profitable per seat mile. AA's international system profit was just 14% of DL's and its TATL and TPAC systems lost money, wiping out the majority of the profits they got from Latin America.
    and DL's domestic profits are twice what UA got so the notion that any of the big 3 is just moving numbers around doesn't square with reality.
    neither companies or individuals buy based on the size of an airline's network; they buy based on whether it can take them where they want to go. And how many international flights have you been on with UA in the past year, Ben?
    AA knows that international doesn't work in most parts of the world, UA thinks it does well but actual data shows they don't do as well as DL and DL

    the fixation with the Delta 767 fleet is equally as troubling esp. since it involves an extraordinary amount of hypocrisy to even make the argument. Tell us how many Delta 767s you have flown on in the past 12 months including in business class, Ben?
    In fact, the 767 is TWO fleets - the -300ERs and -400s and they are configured differently including in business class. Delta's A330 fleet IS larger than its 767 fleet but you want to count them all as one fleet but not count DL's A330 fleet as one - and certainly don't want to count UA's 777 fleet as one.
    In fact, DL uses its 767-300ERs much like UA uses its 777-200As AND its 757s.
    A portion of the DL 767-300ERs fly domestic routes including to Hawaii. A portion fly shorthaul international such as to Latin America where other carriers fly narrowbodies. A portion fly to leisure European destinations predominantly where UA flies 757s. A portion fly in the same markets as other widebodies in the DL fleet. A very few routes over 8 hours are actually served exclusively by 767-300ERs.
    In contrast, UA's 777As are 8 abreast in business class while their lie flat 757s are 4 abreast - both with just half of the seats having direct aisle access in business class.
    The ability to ignore those realities while harping on a few inches on a plane that you don't even fly is quite frankly stunning. It's a.net kind of childishness and hypocrisy.
    you do good work on some stuff, Ben, but your fixation with DL's 767s is borderline pathological.
    And I can assure you that DL will have pulled its 767s off of international service before United. and DL's 767-300ERs might be gone before UA gets rid of its 777-200As.

    Your most logical comments are about loyalty programs and yet you fail to understand what they exist to do - which is to create loyalty by rewarding and incentivizing some type of behavior. There are ample statistics that show that the average award is pretty comparable for the big 3 but each arrives at that differently - although we can't see that data. All programs are growing. DL's program makes more money for it than any others.
    So the notion that a program is better from a consumer standpoint is based very much on personal preference and anecdotes.

    been a fun week of articles but there is more bias here than just about any where on the internet.

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  36. Jkjkjk Guest

    What I dislike about Delta is the cost cutting.
    Their product in J nowadays are meh.
    Bedding, amenity kit, lack of PJs.
    Or let’s talk about how the seats have a lot of dings and black scratches. Geez. Can they make them more visibile?

    Their narrow body products are their saving graces.

    1. Ryan Guest

      J product has absolutely gone downhill. Meals are a lot worse, typically served on one tray, and there's very little to get excited about.

      Also frustrating is the meals on their domestic and Caribbean flights... many routes still serve COVID-era cold boxes, including most Caribbean destinations that have 3-4 hour flights, limited dining options at the destination airport, and for which Delta is charging thousands for first class. A disgusting and disrespectful money grab if...

      J product has absolutely gone downhill. Meals are a lot worse, typically served on one tray, and there's very little to get excited about.

      Also frustrating is the meals on their domestic and Caribbean flights... many routes still serve COVID-era cold boxes, including most Caribbean destinations that have 3-4 hour flights, limited dining options at the destination airport, and for which Delta is charging thousands for first class. A disgusting and disrespectful money grab if you ask me.

  37. S_LEE Diamond

    Ironically, what I dislike the most about Delta is their customer service. Of course, their frontline employees are great. Flight attendants, check-in agents, gate agents, etc. But it was totally different when I needed to contact the customer service center regarding my SkyMiles account.
    I was on hold for hours to contact the customer service both on a phone and chat, but it never worked. I could never reach out to a service agent,...

    Ironically, what I dislike the most about Delta is their customer service. Of course, their frontline employees are great. Flight attendants, check-in agents, gate agents, etc. But it was totally different when I needed to contact the customer service center regarding my SkyMiles account.
    I was on hold for hours to contact the customer service both on a phone and chat, but it never worked. I could never reach out to a service agent, and when I tried sending a mail, it was the same. It was impossible to reach out to them. I finally got a reply 3 months later, but I had already turned away from Delta for this reason. It was in the middle of pandemic and that might be why, but I never had such an issue with AA, UA or AS. Delta's customer service center was just poor.

    Also, I confirm as a Korean that Delta was the poorest in dealing with COVID-related travel restrictions. South Korea changed the entry requirements so frequently and non-Korean airlines didn't follow it very well, however, Delta was the worst. I've heard of hundreds of cases where passengers were denied boarding just because Delta staffs misunderstood the COVID testing requirements of Korea. Even if they had valid test results, Delta denied boarding so frequently. The same thing happened on AA or UA, too, but they were far better than Delta.
    Delta has JV with Korean Air and they could have asked for their help regarding the travel restrictions but they never did. Korean Air never had issues like that but Delta did. It was really frustrating.

    I know Delta is the most "premium" of US big three, but I decided to never fly them even if I'm based in SEA. I'd rather take a detour than flying direct on Delta. Now I fly AS domestically and AA/JL internationally.

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  38. CMT Guest

    My biggest issue with AA's international routes, is that any previous somewhat decent partner J/F availability completely dries up and goes to crap. No longer possible to find 80K or 110K flights to Australia, 60K or 80K flights to Japan, and 70K flights connecting through DOH. Instead, only 400K award redemptions on AA's inferior product. Frankly, I wish they'd completely drop the long haul International routes, focus on domestic/short haul international if that's what they...

    My biggest issue with AA's international routes, is that any previous somewhat decent partner J/F availability completely dries up and goes to crap. No longer possible to find 80K or 110K flights to Australia, 60K or 80K flights to Japan, and 70K flights connecting through DOH. Instead, only 400K award redemptions on AA's inferior product. Frankly, I wish they'd completely drop the long haul International routes, focus on domestic/short haul international if that's what they want to do, and bring back decent partner award availability on the long hauls. I'm not talking about whining because someone unrealistically expects to find partner award flights for a family of four to Europe over Christmas holidays. I'm talking about more than 3-4 J awards available a year out to/through DOH from 10 Qatar US gates. Or zero J or F awards on Qantas a year out. But hey, can buy AA for 400K one way almost any day on AA. Way to go AA!

    1. Tim Dunns Mom Guest

      lmao that has literally zero to do with AA and everything to do with the partners and the current international award travel landscape

  39. George Romey Guest

    I fly AA 2-4 times a week. Some of their employees are very, very good. Crew and ground/club personnel. No small number of their flight attendants are apathetic. Stare off into space during boarding rather than serve first drinks and hang coats. The bare minimum in air in premium cabins. But again no small number are amazing.

    When it comes to the domestic coach product AA is a gussy up version of LCC/ULCC. No IFE...

    I fly AA 2-4 times a week. Some of their employees are very, very good. Crew and ground/club personnel. No small number of their flight attendants are apathetic. Stare off into space during boarding rather than serve first drinks and hang coats. The bare minimum in air in premium cabins. But again no small number are amazing.

    When it comes to the domestic coach product AA is a gussy up version of LCC/ULCC. No IFE other than widebodies. No BOB other than junk food over 1,500 miles. But again financially it's probably just not worth it. Someone buying a BE fare isn't interested in IFE of whether a nice sandwich/salad will be for sale.

    Biggest gripe for me is the endless delays even when (like this past Wednesday) the weather is perfect throughout the country. I've adapted by taking long connections and being MIA based more options for direct flights. But unsuspected flyers that take 40-45 minute connections (which are often cheaper) are usually in for nasty surprise.

    Yes Delta tends to have a hubris around the airline and as both Jetblue and Southwest have learned is that all airlines are a heartbeat away from a major operational meltdown and that's when the gloss comes off.

    1. FllFlyer Guest

      Weather around the country was great on Wednesday?
      Better check with the thousands stranded in MCO/TPA due to severe thunderstorms and tornadoes.

  40. A220HubandSpoke Diamond

    The criticisms you applied to Delta and United can be applied to AA too. American has so many issues that they cloud each other up

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  41. Frederik Guest

    The biggest for me is that Delta and United do cash refunds for an extra fee on domestic tickets. American are vouchers only with no card refund option.

  42. DL Guest

    It's commonplace to knock AA's international route system, but I'd argue that their route systems to Mexico, Central and South America, and the Caribbean are unmatched. Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific are perfectly acceptable considering they have some of the strongest partners and gateway cities in each.

    With the world in turmoil particularly in Europe and ME, AA's domestic build-up may not be such a bad idea.

    1. Portlanjuanero Gold

      Considering Ben is based in Miami, I also find it odd he skips past AA's unparalleled Caribbean network. I hate flying AA and yeah their long-haul routes are almost nonexistent but no one even comes close to their regional international route map

  43. Biglaw V10 Partner Guest

    I'm shocked the hostility of service by AA frontline staff went unmentioned. This goes well beyond "morale" and speaks to problems with hiring (not being able to screen out psychopaths) and problems with organizational management - not empowering people to do what's actually best, instead holding them accountable to mindless metrics like D0 and telling them (implicitly or even explicitly) that basic human decency, professionalism, respect, and etiquette are unimportant.

    I'm shocked the hostility of service by AA frontline staff went unmentioned. This goes well beyond "morale" and speaks to problems with hiring (not being able to screen out psychopaths) and problems with organizational management - not empowering people to do what's actually best, instead holding them accountable to mindless metrics like D0 and telling them (implicitly or even explicitly) that basic human decency, professionalism, respect, and etiquette are unimportant.

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  44. Willem Guest

    Minor strike against United, but those high-density 777-200s have GOT to go!

    (Alaska, my one gripe would be no lie-flats)

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Is Tim Dunn going to survive this post?

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I'm surprised ATL didn't come up in this. I avoid that airport at all costs. If I wanted to connect in 7 double wide trailers lined up, I'd go to a trailer park, I don't need an airport modeled after one.

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“Delta ITSELF does not display hubris but some of its fans certainly do.” Finally, some self awareness.

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