So This 64 Year Old Cargo Plane Keeps Flying Over My House…

…there’s no punchline, I would just love to know more about it.

Miami is amazing for plane spotting

One of my favorite things about Miami (and in particular where I live) is the amazing plane spotting opportunities. The city is really close to the airport, and from many parts of town you’re right under the approach path for the airport.

I’m not exaggerating when I say that I have the Flightradar24 app open morning, day, and night. There’s nothing like seeing the procession of Atlas Air Cargo 747s in the morning, coming from Anchorage, Bogota, and Santiago, or the afternoon Air France and Lufthansa A380s.

Believe it or not, those aren’t the planes that fascinate me most, though…

The 64 year old Convair CV-5800 from Honduras

At least a couple of times per week I notice a Convair CV-5800 operated by IFL Group approaching Miami from San Pedro Sula, Honduras. There are two things that make this interesting:

  • You don’t see a whole lot of Convair planes flying nowadays
  • I don’t know how to describe it, but the plane approaches Miami with a ridiculous trail of smoke behind it… at first I wonder if the plane is okay, but then I’m reminded of which plane it is

Anyway, after seeing the approach yesterday, I did some digging. The IFL Cargo Convair CV-5800 had the registration code N371FL. After Googling the registration, I found out the plane was actually built in 1956. OMFG.

The most common route for the plane seems to be Miami to Guatemala City to San Pedro Sula to Miami, though there are some other “triangle” flights as well, like Miami to Merida to Cancun to Miami.

I have so many questions…

I find this utterly fascinating, and I have so many questions. Collectively you guys have answers to just about everything aviation related, so I’m curious if anyone has answers to any of these:

  • How many Convair CV-5800s are even flying nowadays? It’s surprisingly hard to find a straight answer, since there may be some out there not being flown in an especially “legitimate” manner…
  • Does any cargo airline operate a plane build prior to 1956?
  • How much have the cockpits of these ancient planes been updated? On the one hand I’d have to assume significantly, but at the same time how much is it worth investing in planes this old?
  • Are the pilots for these planes all based in the US?
  • With pilots being in high demand, who exactly ends up flying 64 year old turboprops between Miami and Honduras? Is this a stepping stone for the regionals and one step up from being a flight instructor, do they retain pilots because they can be home the same day sometimes, or…?
  • Given the amount these planes fly specifically from Honduras to the US, is the plane just carrying whatever needs to be transported that day, or do we assume they have a specific contract to transport lobsters, bananas, coffee, or something else?

While I still have a lot of questions, I think I may have at least partly answered the pilot question myself.

Based on AirlinePilotCentral, it appears they have pilots based in Miami, and that captains make $81,500 and first officers make $42,000. That pay is apparently for working two weeks on and two weeks off, so that’s pretty darn good…

Most importantly — am I the only one who finds this flipping interesting?

(Featured image courtesy of Cory W. Watts)

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Michael Davew Guest

MIA needs to urgently reconfigure it's runway traffic. It's 2024 now. Its 2 eastbound flight paths are nearly taking off/landing in between buildings. There was an insane construction boom since the pandemic. It's like a fence with holes for about 50 blocks along US1, which only leaves the 3rd diagonal SE runways free of skyscrapers. Surprisingly this runway hasn't been duplicated or extended, while the other 2 that make planes scrape the buildings were. I feel that no one voiced concern yet only die to the fact that all flights in/out MIA are guided by the computer on the aircraft, and starting after 2020 the FAA switched to a computer navigating too. This this whole thing is an experiment pretty much: New obstacles for planes, new 99% computer navigation. I really don't get why they don't start adding more runways to the NW-SE to avoid a mass disaster. They can't just put all the fate in the new technology, so it must be some short sighted psychopathic ambitions of those in power. All the construction is cleared by the FAA, so it's not like no one is communicating. Eventually something's gotta give... Those in charge of this creepy situation must have some immunity, cause even a child can see that something isn't right when planes roar in front of your balcony.

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James Guest

We have something that looks very similar that flies in and out of Grand Cayman on a regular basis - any ideas what that one is? Likewise, you can see the smoke trails behind it as it banks low over the island on finals...

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a.s Guest

over a year later but I just saw this thing on flight radar, googled it, and here I am

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Spotter Guest

Some of these pilots just don’t want to be a the airlines flying hub to hub and rather stick to flying boxes specially in today’s environment. Being home everyday is a motivation to fly these beautiful old birds. Money is not everything as they say. 2 weeks ON with weekends off then 2 weeks off!! Home everyday WOW!! Can’t beat that. Also they are recognized as being stick and rudder pilot’s not just push button pilots as the airlines.

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Jay Guest

Nolinor in Quebec has some cargo and passenger Convair 580s. https://nolinor.com/en/aeronefs/convair-580/ There is a great AirClips video of the last passenger flight last December. www.air-clips.com This is the first of two videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7Q9NFpD0-I Apparently the passenger version has aged out on some certification in Canada and US and so only cargo versions fly. I can't find any good info on this however. Nolinor is a cool charter company that flies northern Quebec from Val D'or. They go to gold and diamond mines and anywhere else customers will pay for. I thought the pilots and crew were very professional.

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