Help Me Understand The Uber Cancelation Scam?

Ridesharing apps have radically changed the way we get around on the ground. It’s not just that being able to order a car through an app at any time is useful, but historically I enjoyed Uber because I felt like they offered great customer service.

Over the years, as the platform has gotten bigger, I feel like that has changed.

While a vast majority of Uber drivers are professional, given how big the network is you also have some people trying to pull off scams. There are all kinds of them. But there’s one kind I can’t make sense of. I’m curious if you guys can help me understand it.

Accepting A Ride And Then Ignoring

There seems to be a fairly common scam where Uber drivers are essentially more focused on collecting cancelation fees than driving. This can come in one of two forms:

  • The driver accepting your ride and then just ignoring you, hoping that you’ll eventually cancel the ride
  • The driver accepting the ride, and then texting with you and asking you to cancel the ride (they could give a variety of reasons for encouraging this)

This is something that happens fairly often, though I guess I don’t fully understand the logic, but I suspect I must be missing something:

  • You can request to have a cancelation fee refunded; if it is refunded, is the driver still getting the cancelation fee?
  • If a driver is found to be in a situation where Uber is constantly refunding fees (for good reason), does the platform not take any action?

My Uber Situation Yesterday

Last night I got back home to Miami. I had just gotten off a three hour flight in a middle seat in the second to last row of an American plane (for the first time in probably 15 years, but it was worth it to get home early).

I’m only home for the weekend between two trips. In retrospect I regret that because it’s Art Basel, one of the least pleasant weekends of the year here (yes, even less enjoyable than a hot August day).

So I ordered an Uber when I landed in Miami.

And then I waited… after 10 minutes the car still hadn’t moved, so I called the driver. He didn’t answer. So then I messaged him. The message showed as “Read,” but he didn’t respond.

I waited another five minutes, and then I called him. He didn’t answer.

Then after another five minutes I figured I’d practice some reverse psychology. I assumed he wanted me to just give up and cancel the ride, so I messaged him telling him to take his time. He also read that.

I wasn’t about to cancel the ride, so I kept the ride “live,” and in the meantime got in a taxi, which was a whole different experience as well (“Man it has been crazy busy but everyone has been paying with credit card, so can you pay me in cash so I have gas money?” That’s. Not. How. That. Works.).

Finally after over 30 minutes I decided to cancel the ride. There was a $10 fee, though I disputed it and it was immediately refunded. Sorry you had to “drive” 31 minutes for me. Alejandro!

Bottom Line

Surprisingly this guy had a good Uber score and literally thousands of rides behind him. So I can’t say with 100% certainty that he was a scammer, in the sense that I’m not convinced he was trying to make a “living” through cancelation fees.

One thing is for sure, though — he was extremely unprofessional, not responding to any of my calls or messages for over 30 minutes.

Even beyond this ride, there are much clearer examples of drivers doing everything they can to get people to cancel rides in order to get cancelation fees.

So that’s why I’m curious about the inner-workings of Uber. Do drivers always get to keep the cancelation fee, even if it’s refunded? Are they just banking on people not requesting a refund? Is there some point at which drivers can be in trouble for having an unusually high number of cancelations/disputes?

To fellow Uber passengers, have you faced a similar situation?

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Preston Guest

As an uber driver myself, I am not quite sure how this scam works. The app requires us to drive towards the passenger for two minutes before we receive a cancellation fee, and I don’t see the value in waiting at the airport for long periods of time and settling for cancellation fees when there are valuable trips out there. Uber does regularly take cancellation fees or take portions of cancellation fees without giving them to the driver, which they were initially designed to compensate the driver for their wasted time and the driver kept the entire fee, but over the years uber has become greedier and greedier taking more and more from the drivers. Recently they have done some new fare decreases that have made long trips out of town worthless to drivers, as they are expected to drive long distances outside their city without a return trip for significantly less than they would have made in the the same time frame in their city. What I would suspect is that the rider may have been waiting for a better trip and didn’t like the trip, so rather than be penalized for cancelling to many trips he simply waits on the passenger to cancel.

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B Lewis Guest

If you had the Uber driver’s location on the app and was able to pull off getting the taxi to drop you off behind him, then just opening the door and getting in that would of been one for the ages. He probably would have shi*t himself not knowing who you are. I use Uber a lot I don’t think I have had a driver scan me but there are some riders scams that I have seen. *if you don’t have enough for your entire fair you put in a location that is closer to you and just change it after pick up. Your account will go negative but in a desperate situation it’s a good little hack even though they have seemed to crack down on it a little more, from when me and my coworkers were living check to check and did not want to ride the bus lol Also another little hack is changing your payment method, now I haven’t this done since back in Uber early days but also have not tried it. It allows your card boy to get charged and whatever is remaining in ur balance for the account u switched too(visa prepaids were a common way to get some free dollars from the multinational company that can’t just give the lowered income a break here or there allowance for overdraft and timeframe yo repay it.

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Trevor Guest

Do you realise the latency in messages. How some never arrive. How many times Uber’s system cancels the ride, both rider and driver are advised it’s the other that has cancelled. How many times drivers are offered two rides at without having started the first. How some riders cancel a ride but the ride is still live to the driver.

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Edwina Thompson Guest

I canceled my ride cause there was problem with system & destination address was wrong. Driver canceled & she got canceled fees out of my trip charge but I never got the difference I paid for a trip I never took & it's no longer pending nor returned to my account. I'm catching he'll trying to chat talk or even get someone to say ok we'll refund the remainder of the fare u never took. So what should i do get a lawyer its been 5 days which they said someone would contact me in 6 to 12 hrs its been over 72 hrs no help yet nor refund. I won't ever use Uber again.

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Succes Guest

My money was taken in my account but I didn't requested for a ride ,what can I do , help please

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