Questions and Answers

Have a travel related question? Post it here, and I’ll do my best to answer it as quickly as possible.

While anyone can comment on regular blog post, registration is required in order to post a question in this space. Creating your account is free, and you'll be able to see when your question is answered, as well as like comments from other users. And of course, you'll earn status points for offering helpful answers!

This space is intended to be more of a community as well, so please jump in and share tips!

Filter by:

Transiting Rome airport

Can you help?
0

United ticketed flight to HNL, layover, Hawaiian flight LIH, 1st class benefits?

1

LAX to ATH on Delta, “Upgrade Certificate not available for this flight”???

1

Just 1 Non-Stop a Day JFK/DFW?

3

What would you do?

5

USVI to US

1

Experiences from South Pacific in January

1

First QR flight into KSA airspace in more than 3 years!!

2

Transfer on 2 separate tickets

1

Combining tickets

3

Ask a Question

Everyone can read and comment, but you must login to post a new comment.

Answers (3)

Legal routing from LAX-IST

Legal routing from LAX-IST

  1. Asarious

    This one has me stumped. Before suggesting alternate routings, please know that I’m posing this question purely from a desire to better understand why something I’m doing isn’t working, not necessarily because I’m attempting to fly to a particular place.

    I understand Ethiopian Airlines (ET) has a route between LAX and ADD via DUB, and has fifth freedom rights to sell tickets on their route between LAX and DUB. I understand that Turkish Airlines (TK) has a route between DUB and IST.

    I also understand that both ET and TK are Star Alliance carriers. There are published fares for sale between LAX and DUB, as well as DUB-IST. I can find revenue tickets for both these individual segments.

    For some reason though, even with a multi-city search on ITA Matrix or Google Flights, I cannot get LAX-DUB-IST on a single itinerary for a revenue ticket. Is this because there’s no published fare for this combined routing by either of these carriers? Is it because fifth freedom rules might somehow preclude ET from selling LAX-DUB paired with anything other than DUB-ADD?

    It shouldn’t be because of MPM, as it seems to only differ 2.1% between the two routings.

    Alternatively, assuming I fed these flights to an agent in a typical Star Alliance award program and was otherwise wholly within their award routing rules, would an agent be unable to issue a single itinerary from LAX-DUB-IST due to some invisible rule I’m not seeing here?

  2. MidSouthSkier

    [USER=7]@Tiffany[/USER]

  3. Andy 11235

    I could be wrong, but I don’t think TK publishes data to google, so you wouldn’t see any google flight/ita options that require combining a TK flight with another. That having been said, fare rules on combinations can be tricky to decipher, so it’s often best to just play around. TK DUB-IST will combine with just about any (other) star carrier’s xxx-DUB flight. ET will combine LAX-DUB with any flight into LAX. However, there seem to be restrictions on DUB-elsewhere. (Of academic interest, ASKY (KP) codeshares ET’s LAX-DUB flight and will sell a ticket LAX-DUB-IST using the ET/TK combination, but the price is insane. ASKY is managed under contract to ET and seems to have access to all ET Y fares).

    But, what you are really asking for is whether a star carrier would be able to issue a single *award* ticket manually entering in those two segments, and I have no idea if that would work. Star alliance award ticket rules don’t necessarily require a published fare like AAdvantage.

Sign in to help answer questions.