Several months ago, I wrote about how American Airlines was reportedly having an issue, whereby flight attendants were leaving passengers on aircraft at the end of flights. As it turns out, United Airlines is having a similar problem.
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Passengers being left on United flights after landing
PYOK flags a memo that was sent to United flight attendants by their union, AFA-CWA. According to the memo, the airline is reportedly seeing too many instances of passengers being left onboard aircraft at the end of flights, despite the post-flight cabin sweep that flight attendants are supposed to perform before they deplane.
To address this, the union joined the company’s inflight management department to conduct some observations, in order to identify where human factors and other operational factors may impact the crew’s ability to complete the sweep, as outlined in the SOP.
An incomplete sweep can lead to a violation of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations, which require a certain number of crew members to be onboard an aircraft while passengers are onboard. If a flight is staffed at minimums, no flight attendants can deplane until all passengers are off. As the union explains:
Even the simplest distraction or loss of focus due to external factors can result in us missing a passenger asleep in their seat or one in the lavatory. It’s that easy. While the focus is on ensuring all passengers are off the aircraft before we deplane, all components of the sweep, especially ensuring all doors are disarmed, are critical.
One concern we have continued to bring forward is the presence of cabin cleaners onboard and throughout the aircraft at a time where Flight Attendants are trying to conduct the sweep. It has become more routine for cleaners to board the aircraft during passenger deplaning, potentially obstructing our view or creating an inadvertent distraction. While we continue to express concern over this risk to the company, it’s critical to pay even more attention to the seat groups and corresponding floor areas of, and around, seats where cabin cleaners are positioned to ensure there are no passengers still onboard the aircraft while conducting the sweep. Cleaners should have a reflective vest and badge visible while onboard the aircraft. To ensure a passenger is not mistaken for a cleaner or other ground employee, challenge anyone without a visible badge while conducting the sweep.
I’m shocked this happens with any frequency
Admittedly I’m a light sleeper, so I can’t even imagine the concept of sleeping through a landing and deplaning, given the amount of noise and light. But in order for someone to be left on the aircraft, it can’t just be that the passenger sleeps through the landing and deplaning, but also that the crew somehow doesn’t notice.
It hasn’t been revealed, but I’d be fascinated to know the frequency with which this happens. Like, I’m not surprised this happens a handful of times per year across airlines, and then it usually makes headlines. But I’m surprised it’s an issue that happens with any regularity at one airline.
As an example of when this did happen, in 2019 there was a viral story, whereby a woman was trapped on an Air Canada jet. She had fallen asleep, and woke up in the middle of the night, to find herself on a cold, dark aircraft, with no one else around.
I can totally appreciate how there may be human factors involved here, and how cleaners boarding the aircraft can create somewhat of a visual distraction. But folks, this isn’t rocket science. It’s not like anyone isn’t capable of sweeping the aircraft and telling the difference between a cleaner and a passenger. Instead, it’s clearly just that proper sweeps aren’t consistently being performed.
I guess we shouldn’t be surprised, since flight attendants sometimes even abandon their colleagues onboard aircraft, as one crew member recently bragged about on TikTok.
Bottom line
United is reportedly having an issue whereby flight attendants are sometimes leaving passengers behind on aircraft, and are failing to do their post-flight sweeps correctly. It seems that in these situations, passengers are either sleeping or in the lavatory.
Flight attendants do an amazing job taking care of passenger safety, both the ordinary (arming and disarming doors) and the extraordinary (evacuating passengers during en emergency). So this really doesn’t seem like it should be that complicated either.
What do you make of this issue with United passengers being abandoned onboard?
"Flight attendants do an amazing job taking care of passenger safety.." ahahaha
Thanks Lucky, I needed a good laugh.
"Flight attendants ...arming and disarming doors..." Yes they do... but of course there is a light in the cockpit that would warn the pilots of a non-locked door. Not rocket science.
"Flight attendants ...evacuating passengers during en emergency.." too funny. They mostly panic and screech. And open a door to sink the plane (Hudson landing)...
"Flight attendants do an amazing job taking care of passenger safety.." ahahaha
Thanks Lucky, I needed a good laugh.
"Flight attendants ...arming and disarming doors..." Yes they do... but of course there is a light in the cockpit that would warn the pilots of a non-locked door. Not rocket science.
"Flight attendants ...evacuating passengers during en emergency.." too funny. They mostly panic and screech. And open a door to sink the plane (Hudson landing) or step over passengers running away (AA flight in Dallas).
It's time they reduced the pay rate when FA's are flying and give some of that savings to pay for boarding/de boarding.
Then FAs would not all be rushing to get a flight home .
Maybe if they were paid for pre- and post- flight duties, they would care.
Pay people for the time they're actually working. It's only fair.
The could... but what a pay cut... sitting on their butts for the 1st hour and last hour of a flight... no pay.... okay.
Ben, while sleeping through a landing may be difficult, it is really easy to fall asleep after the plane has parked and the engines are off if you are in a way-back economy window seat waiting for everyone else to leave. Especially after a long westbound daytime flight.
I’ve worked in many areas of airport operations. What’s even stranger than the flight crew bailing is the fact that multiple cleaners are supposed to go through every isle and seat after passenger deplaning. Did the ground crew just ignore a passenger asleep in their seat? Even if the final flight of a day, cabin maintenance/turn over needs to occur. Bizarre failure on so multiple levels.
How hard is it to walk down the cabin and see if there are passengers on board. It’s their job.
Because flight attendants stop getting paid when the front door opens. So they aren't paid to look for remaining passengers. My guess is now that some airlines have boarding pay, in the next round of contracts, you will get "check the plane for leftover passenger" pay.
Todd, is that a practice exclusive to the U.S. airline industry?
So because they’re no longer being paid they are allowed to neglect the duties of their job?!
Ben, thank you for providing more information about the failings within the U.S. airline industry.
This is yet another example of the poor management performance by failing to provide adequate crew training, furthermore, failing to put measures in place to ensure that cabin crew carry out their duties as required by the regulatory authority.
Nobody can blame this poor show on POTUS or any of his flunkies.
Please remind me never to...
Ben, thank you for providing more information about the failings within the U.S. airline industry.
This is yet another example of the poor management performance by failing to provide adequate crew training, furthermore, failing to put measures in place to ensure that cabin crew carry out their duties as required by the regulatory authority.
Nobody can blame this poor show on POTUS or any of his flunkies.
Please remind me never to set foot on board a U.S. run airline ever again …. the race to the bottom continues.
Strongly disagree. Every single evacuation we see passengers with rolling luggage on the tarmac. That must mean, contrary to procedure, passengers got their bag out of the overhead before evacuating. You’re not even supposed to take your underseat personal item with you in an evacuation.
Saying FAs do an amazing job is disrespectful to those who actually do. It’s like saying nurses save lives...
Strongly disagree. Every single evacuation we see passengers with rolling luggage on the tarmac. That must mean, contrary to procedure, passengers got their bag out of the overhead before evacuating. You’re not even supposed to take your underseat personal item with you in an evacuation.
Saying FAs do an amazing job is disrespectful to those who actually do. It’s like saying nurses save lives when they don’t know shit. Nurses get into nursing because they’re too lazy to go through medical school. Then they want the valor of working in healthcare.
The only people I respect in society are high end professional service workers, and even then, only those at competent firms.
Do you respect actual law firm partners including real Skadden people who really makes $6MM a year?
Apps is a fake moron. A loser hoping for better days.
There was an interesting open letter recently from the writers of Alex, a British cartoon running for 38 years.
They mentioned that their initial intent was to satirise greedy bankers, but the main character ended up being embraced by the intended targets ...
I find it hard to believe you respect anyone.
To be fair, their union has abandoned their new contract too.