New United Airlines Premium Coastliner Airbus A321neos With Flat Beds

New United Airlines Premium Coastliner Airbus A321neos With Flat Beds

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Well this is interesting. We know that United Airlines will soon start taking delivery of Airbus A321XLRs, which will have the carrier’s most luxurious narrow body interiors to date. Those planes will specifically be operating long haul, international flights, primarily across the Atlantic.

What’s coming as more of a surprise is that United is also seemingly shortly taking delivery of a new subfleet of Airbus A321neos, which will specifically be used for premium transcontinental flights, as flagged by JonNYC.

United plans fleet of 161-seat premium Airbus A321neos

United is acquiring a massive number of Airbus A321neos, as the airline eventually expects to have over 175 of these planes in its fleet. Up until now, these planes have all had a pretty standard domestic configuration, with 200 seats, including 20 first class seats and 180 economy class seats.

However, one of United’s upcoming Airbus A321neo deliveries seems to be the start of something new (and just to be perfectly clear, this isn’t an A321XLR). The plane with the registration code N94750 is expected to be the first “Coastliner” A321neo, which is United’s plan to introduce a new subfleet of premium domestic aircraft.

Here’s what we can reportedly expect:

  • The airline is rumored to be planning on flying 40 of these aircraft, which is quite a big fleet, with the code “A321LF”
  • The planes are expected to feature 161 seats, including 20 business class seats (1-1 configuration), 12 premium economy seats (2-2 configuration), and 129 economy class seats (3-3 configuration)
  • As a point of comparison, United’s A321XLRs will feature 150 seats, including 20 business class seats, 12 premium economy seats, and 118 economy class seats
  • I would expect that the United A321XLRs and A321neos will have virtually identical business class and premium economy cabins, and that the difference will be in economy (below is the A321XLR seat map)
  • It’s logical that economy will be a bit denser on the A321neos, presumably with a bit less legroom, and smaller galleys, since there’s no need for hot meals in economy on those flights

Let me emphasize that United hasn’t actually officially announced anything yet, so I imagine some sort of a reveal is imminent. The airline has recently been hinting that it has some passenger experience announcements coming in the near future, so it’s anyone’s guess if this might be one of those.

This is a smart, sensible direction for United to take

It’s interesting that we’re only now learning about these plans, and not even officially. Going back almost a decade, United executives made it clear that they planned to configure some latest generation narrow body aircraft with flat beds.

At the time, the plan was for Boeing 737 MAX 10s to get these premium configurations, and to be used for transcontinental routes. However, with the plane still not certified, it seems likely that United has now just decided to do this on the A321neo, since the airline is tired of waiting.

Presumably these premium A321neos won’t just replace United’s aging Boeing 757-200s in some premium markets, but will also replace wide body aircraft that currently operate flights across the country (freeing them up for United to get even more of an edge with its long haul network).

A fleet of 40 planes is massive, and should easily cover around 60 roundtrip coast-to-coast flights per day, conservatively. So of course these planes will fly from Newark (EWR) to Los Angeles (LAX) and San Francisco (SFO). Don’t be surprised to also eventually see these out of Boston (BOS), and also out of New York (JFK), given the deal between JetBlue and United (if that fully materializes). I do wonder if United has something further up its sleeve, because it seems there’s some additional capacity.

Here’s the other thing I find interesting — I think it’s smart that United is actually creating a dedicated subfleet of premium transcontinental aircraft, as that’s quite a contrast to what’s happening at American. American is acquiring 50 Airbus A321XLRs, and plans to use those both for premium transcontinental and for long haul international flights.

To me that seems like a strategic blunder. Using the carrier’s order of 50 A321XLRs for both domestic and international flights greatly limits American’s ability to grow, both in international markets (which is so overdue, given the premature aircraft retirements we saw at the airline at the start of the pandemic), and in premium transcontinental markets.

It’s another area where American is falling behind before it even starts with a strategy, and will lose more market share to United.

American & United are taking different A321XLR strategies

For what it’s worth, Delta is also planning a subfleet of Airbus A321neos with flat beds, which will also be used for premium transcontinental flights. Delta is only expected to operate a fleet of 21 of these planes, so that’s about half the size of United’s fleet of premium aircraft. On top of that, Delta’s situation has been a bit of a mess, as the airline seemingly can’t get cabins certified, and some planes have now been parked for around a year.

The situation at Delta is so bad that the airline plans to start flying these planes with 44 first class seats in other markets, since it’s not sure about the timeline with which seats can be certified.

Delta is also planning A321neos with premium layouts

Bottom line

While there hasn’t yet been an official announcement, United seems to be planning a special subfleet of “Coastliner” Airbus A321neos, which will operate in premium transcontinental markets. The planes are expected to feature 161 seats, and much like the A321XLRs, will have 20 flat beds in business class, and 12 premium economy seats.

We’ve known that United wanted to introduce flat beds on some new generation narrow body aircraft. While the initial plan was for this to happen on the Boeing 737 MAX 10, the certification issues have caused United to go with Airbus planes instead.

What do you make of United’s “Coastliner” A321neo plans?

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  1. Eric Schmidt Guest

    "...AA is acquiring 50 Airbus A321XLRs, and plans to use those both for premium XC and for long haul international flights...To me that seems like a strategic blunder. Using ... 50 A321XLRs for both domestic and intl flights greatly limits American’s ability to grow..."

    Can someone explain the thinking here vs. UA using them for similar purposes?

    Separately, 1 bathroom up front for 34 premium passengers seems a little crowded.

  2. James S Guest

    They appear to have forgotten a restroom

  3. Trey Guest

    IAD to SFO/IAD as a few comments have mentioned. Maybe also a seasonal MCO-SFO? United has been flying a 777 on this route 6x weekly for Jan & part of Feb. F seats are usually full well ahead of upgrade windows.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Oof. It's that 772 with 2-4-2 rear-facing lie-flat. While lie-flat is better than recliner and better than economy, it's still.. THAT.. aircraft. Makes DL's 763 look 'nice.'

  4. James Guest

    would LOVE to get these out of SNA, especially on their newark redeye

  5. Colin Davy Guest

    How does American using the same plane in both transcontinental and intercontinental markets limit its ability to grow? Surely the plane can be moved as required between the two?

  6. brianna hoffner Diamond

    Nice! It'll be like having the PS planes again. I still get nostalgic for my old row 9 seat. Now if they can just fly half of these from JFK things would be grand. (Also wouldn't mind that warm cookie making a reappearance)

  7. 1997 Guest

    Exciting! Perhaps these will replace some old 777s on routes like Denver to Kona, etc.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Mhm. Those ancient 772s with rear-facing 2-4-2 'coffin' seats up-front need to go. Not to mention, the 3-4-3 in-back is brutal.

  8. TravelinWilly Diamond

    JEEPERS!

    Is there anything JonNYC isn't scooping first?! I am convinced he has a crystal ball; between his obvious insider connections plus ability to read airline and civil aviation tea leaves and perform the analysis, the guy is truly unparalleled!

    Thank you, JonNYC and Ben! AGAIN!

    1. yoloswag420 Guest

      I notice you post this kind of comment on almost all these articles. It's a bit odd to suck up so much to Jon and Ben on something like this, like it's a bit hyperbolic.

      It's interesting info, I think most normal people would leave it at that, instead of being so over the top with their praise of their character.

    2. Ricky Guest

      @yoloswag40, what's with you? Leave TravelinWilly be; I totally agree with him vis à vis JonNYC. You can post your comments, he can post his, and I can post mine.

    3. Tim Dunn Diamond

      odd indeed.

      and this isn't breaking news because it has been rumored elsewhere.

      Putting a tail number to it is new.

  9. UA-NYC Diamond

    Fantastic news - UA clearly shaping up to be the leader in the premium TCON market - case closed.

    Lil Timmy D just got pantsed...rough day!

    1. Tim Dunn Diamond

      you can define premium however you want but whoever manages to get the most revenue for what they offer is usually how premium is defined.

      Knock is something that looks expensive but is priced at a discount.

      my day is going just fine, thank you.

  10. John Guest

    These are basically the erstwhile A321LR with only 1 ACT instead of 3 ACT. After the successful launch of XLR, Airbus made the LR part of standard A321Neo lineup, kind of similar to what they did with A350ULR to standard A350 a few years ago.

    They can also use these planes from East coast to many Latin American airports.

  11. 1990 Guest

    I love this. Each airline should be adopting a similar lie-flat for transcon (and even simply, 4+ hour, redeye flights). Why its taken so long is another story. B6 Mint really lead the way. Sure DL, UA had their 757 with 2-2, but 1-1 suites are the future. Yes, AA has its a321T and now XLR. Good, too.

  12. Kyle Guest

    Looks nice! Hopefully some of these end up on IAD to the west coast. The DC market is woefully underserved by lie-flats on transcons (also, hello AA from DCA?).

    1. 1990 Guest

      Kyle, doesn't DL operate that 752 with lie-flat up-front for DCA-LAX?

    2. dx Guest

      DL does operate premium transcon on LAX-DCA. I think Kyle's point is that it's mildly surprising AA doesn't match them given that DCA is a major hub for it and AA already has the premium traffic flow to do both LAX-JFK and sometimes LAX-MIA as well.

    3. Kyle Guest

      They do, but that’s only one daily flight. United usually runs one flight daily with lie-flats on IAD-SFO and IAD-LAX (sometimes SAN too on the domestic 777s), but the vast majority of west coast transcons from DC are recliner seats.

    4. 1990 Guest

      IAD makes sense as its the larger airport with room for wide-bodies and no distance limitations (needing exceptions) like DCA.

  13. yoloswag420 Guest

    I think they might open more premium transcontinental routes. BOS to SFO seems like a easy one, especially given Mint service on that route.

    I know SEA to EWR has gotten 757s seasonally. DCA/IAD also feel like a possibility given Delta has LAX to DCA as D1 service.

    1. dx Guest

      I agree that IAD-LAX or IAD-SFO (or both) is a good bet for this sub-fleet, in addition to BOS-LAX and/or SFO, and 100% they will put these on JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO if that ultimately happens. In peak summer, UA will probably also consider EWR-ANC (or KEF on the XLR) since Delta has in the past or still does operate flatbeds from JFK on those two routes. For SEA, UA might wait to see if either JetBlue or Delta brings those back from JFK and/or BOS.

    2. TravelinWilly Diamond

      "I agree that IAD-LAX or IAD-SFO (or both) is a good bet for this sub-fleet..."

      From your mouth to dog's ears. IAD has never gotten the lovin' that NYC or BOS have gotten. Maybe there's no market in DC for premium transcons except for me, but I look for int'l configurations on UA whenever possible for nonstops from IAD to LAX and SFO. The DL 757 flights ex-DCA with Delta One® are always filled to the gills when I've been on them.

  14. Madrid Guest

    Hey Boeing, I bet you regret cancelling the B757 program.

    1. 1990 Guest

      I regret them canceling it. 757 with new engines would've been brilliant, and would've avoided the Max catastrophes. *sigh*

  15. Tim Dunn Diamond

    this has been rumored for quite some time.

    UA is using interiors from the XLRs to have a dedicated fleet of transcon aircraft - the role the MAX 10s were supposed to play.

    Presumably a transcon MAX 10 won't happen.

    and I am not sure that it is a good move to have two fleets of premium configured A321NEOs - one for transcons and one for Europe. Part of the strength of the...

    this has been rumored for quite some time.

    UA is using interiors from the XLRs to have a dedicated fleet of transcon aircraft - the role the MAX 10s were supposed to play.

    Presumably a transcon MAX 10 won't happen.

    and I am not sure that it is a good move to have two fleets of premium configured A321NEOs - one for transcons and one for Europe. Part of the strength of the XLR is that it can fairly readily come off TATL routes and fly domestic routes; there will always be greater demand for TATL aircraft in the summer than for most of the rest of the year. The 321XLR has limited use elsewhere in the world - perhaps a few S. America flights but those then become seasonal.

    321NEOs are cheaper and more readily available which I suspect is part of the calculation but I wouldn't be so quick to throw AA under the bus for choosing to have a single 321NEO premium fleet

    1. dx Guest

      Yeah, we shall see whether it's better to have a separate transcon fleet from the XLR- probably good arguments both ways.

      This also feels like a minor bummer for WN, which no doubt would have at least considered a transcon MAX 10 in the next several years for a fistful of high-revenue routes as part of its transformation once there was proof of concept.

    2. 1990 Guest

      a321neos (and XLR) are clearly better situated for this than anything at Boeing.

      Or, take the 737max (any of them, not just 10), and add lie-flat, like SQ, and others have done.

  16. CSR 2.0 Guest

    I cannot believe that they also did not put a mid cabin lav on these. going to be a nitemare.

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TravelinWilly Diamond

JEEPERS! Is there anything JonNYC isn't scooping first?! I am convinced he has a crystal ball; between his obvious insider connections plus ability to read airline and civil aviation tea leaves and perform the analysis, the guy is truly unparalleled! Thank you, JonNYC and Ben! AGAIN!

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Ricky Guest

@yoloswag40, what's with you? Leave TravelinWilly be; I totally agree with him vis à vis JonNYC. You can post your comments, he can post his, and I can post mine.

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TravelinWilly Diamond

"I agree that IAD-LAX or IAD-SFO (or both) is a good bet for this sub-fleet..." From your mouth to dog's ears. IAD has never gotten the lovin' that NYC or BOS have gotten. Maybe there's no market in DC for premium transcons except for me, but I look for int'l configurations on UA whenever possible for nonstops from IAD to LAX and SFO. The DL 757 flights ex-DCA with Delta One® are always filled to the gills when I've been on them.

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