The Russian government is asking President Trump to lift the ban that has been in place on flights between the United States and Russia for the past three years, as flagged by PYOK. That’s not to say that anything will come of this in the immediate future, but the request as such is interesting…
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Russia wants to resume flights to United States
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation has announced the details of a meeting that took place in Istanbul on February 27, 2025, between Director of the Foreign Ministry Department of North America, Alexander Darchiev, and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, Sonata Coulter.
As it’s described, the discussions centered around normalizing relations between the United States and Russia, to overcome “numerous irritants inherited from previous US administrators” (their words, not mine… obviously). Here’s the most interesting detail, as it impacts aviation:
The necessity of achieving tangible outcomes to foster conditions conducive to improving bilateral relations, in the interests of both nations, was underscored. In particular, the American side was encouraged to consider the restoration of direct air service between the two countries.
The discussions proceeded in a substantive and business-like manner, with both parties agreeing to continue dialogue through this channel.
As you can see, the Russian government is hoping to see the restoration of flights to the United States. In early 2022, we of course saw many countries impose sanctions against Russia, following Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Dozens of countries closed their airspace to Russian airlines, and we also saw trade embargoes put in place, making it hard for Russian airlines to buy aircraft and parts from US and European companies.
As a result of this, Russia ended up imposing reciprocal restrictions, whereby they banned many airlines from their own airspace. That’s perhaps most significant in terms of overflight rights, given the importance of Russian airspace for connecting east and west.
What would the implications of this be, anyway?
Even before sanctions were put in place, no US airlines flew to Russia. Rather, the only airline flying between the two countries was Aeroflot. So when it comes to wanting to restore air service between the two countries, clearly this would just be about allowing Russian carriers to fly to the United States.
Presumably if the US opened its airspace to Russia, then that would be made reciprocal, meaning that US carriers could once again use Russian airspace as well. That’s useful for some flights to India and North Asia. For that matter, I’m sure Russia desperately wants the revenue it got from allowing flights through its airspace, since the country charged dearly for the privilege.
While not explicitly addressed, I have to imagine that a major aspect of wanting to ease relations would also be to get access to new aircraft, as well as parts for existing aircraft. Russia’s aviation sector has really been struggling, given the country’s inability to buy parts directly from manufacturers.
It’s interesting that the meeting with these discussions took place one day before Ukranian President Zelenskyy visited the White House, and we saw a pretty rough exchange between him and President Trump and Vice President Vance.
Bottom line
The Russian government is asking the United States to lift the flight bans that have been in place since early 2022, following Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Russia wants to undo the “irritants” inherited from the previous administration, and is hoping to see nonstop flights between the two countries again. Presumably Russia would also like access to US aircraft and parts, but I imagine that would be a next step.
How do you see this playing out?
And given we have a coward-in-chief who bends the knee before dictators, who so easily play him like a fiddle, I'm sure he'll do it.
Did anyone notice that Musk has proposed taking the FAA's communications contract from Verizon and giving it to one of his own companies?
Did anyone notice that DOGE has proposed re-granting other government contracts to Musk-owned companies?
There are too many similarities between Putin and Hitler. Both controlled their countries media by suppressing and incarcerating those who voice opinions against the government. Both invaded lands claiming to be unifying.
British Prime Minister Chamberlain appeased Hitler when he gave Hitler the Sudetenland, a region of Czechoslovakia, that Hitler invaded. Chamberlain believed, at the time, he prevented another world war. About a year later, Hitler invaded Poland and World War 2 began and...
There are too many similarities between Putin and Hitler. Both controlled their countries media by suppressing and incarcerating those who voice opinions against the government. Both invaded lands claiming to be unifying.
British Prime Minister Chamberlain appeased Hitler when he gave Hitler the Sudetenland, a region of Czechoslovakia, that Hitler invaded. Chamberlain believed, at the time, he prevented another world war. About a year later, Hitler invaded Poland and World War 2 began and millions of lives were about to be lost.
It is said that you are judged by those you associate with...... the Ukraine associates with European nations .... Russia associates with North Korea and Iran.
If President Trump is truly trying to prevent World War 3, which I believe he is ... He has not learned from history and may be doomed to relive it.
Biden and the EU had three years to find peace and didnt. Trump is at least trying to stop people from dying on Front lines that haven't moved in over a year. Putin isn't Hitler bent on extermination of millions.
Wow - you've got some really sick people on this site.
Seriously Harry, some are not only sick but disgustingly so …. it is a dangerous world we live in.
Trump and Vance's fellatio jaw lock of Putin is paying off for Russia.
This is clearly going to result in Trump opening up to Russia again, probably force Russia's airlines to go Boeing exclusively, and then Trump is going to pretend like he's a genius that "won" for America again.
My Money is on your bet, sadly
Well, this is step one in Putin getting around the sanctions on sale of Western aircraft parts to Russia. The planes will come over broken, return repaired with a belly full of parts to bring back to fix all those grounded aircraft.
Cannot wait to hear the DUMBA$$ responses who think this guy is centered.
The happiest person in the world right now is
Xi Jinping.
on the contrary...he'll be the saddest in the world if we establish good relations with Russia. they need Russia in their pocket and if they dont have them, they only have Iran in their axis.
China and Russia tolerate each other and Russia needs China a lot more than the other way around. Before Trump’s term is over China’s navy will be docking its ships in Taiwan’s ports. The Philippines and Vietnam will both fall under the heavy influence of China and many other SE Asian countries will follow and the Trump Administration will do nothing about it. How could he…Trump wants to takeover Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal....
China and Russia tolerate each other and Russia needs China a lot more than the other way around. Before Trump’s term is over China’s navy will be docking its ships in Taiwan’s ports. The Philippines and Vietnam will both fall under the heavy influence of China and many other SE Asian countries will follow and the Trump Administration will do nothing about it. How could he…Trump wants to takeover Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal. He has given his blessing to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. He has no respect for a nation’s sovereignty and China has taken notice. China will take advantage of this and Trump will do nothing to stop it.
Russia needs China a lot more than China needs Russia, and Europe would side with China over Putin and Trump at this point.
Don’t be fooled, Russia and China will always have stronger relations than US and either. It’s the history that will always lead them to prefer each other… and that includes the history of the US going back and forth and back again as a reliable partner.
@SN Agreed, and not to mention the whole part where the US is, other than Trump and his sycophants, generally opposed to Russian and Chinese expansionist policy goals to begin with. Normalizing relations with Russia only legitimizes their claim to Ukraine.
Trump is a puppet of Putin…perhaps United can soon become a regional carrier of Aeroflot?
This would be awesome. Hopefully this opens the door to more direct flights between the US and China. Not to mention the countless barrels of oil wasted due to airlines having to fly around Russia.
We all want peace with Russia. They are fellow Christians who believe in family values. Closer in so many ways than the socialist anti-American EU.
Not ask, Instructs. Trump is a good comrade.
never allow this: We cannot normalize relations with Russia. It is not in the best interest of world peace. Trump represents the worst of America
So how successful was Biden and the EU bringing peace to Ukraine and the MiddleEast?
Glad to see a wider spectrum of comments on this one than I expected.
Personally, I agree that the "West's" prior strategy has failed, and that it is time for a new, more constructive approach, which the Trump administration appears to be calling for.
And that includes both sides considering lifting blanket civil aviation bans. It will be complex and take some time, but is ultimately in every traveler's interest. Civil aviation shouldn't be held...
Glad to see a wider spectrum of comments on this one than I expected.
Personally, I agree that the "West's" prior strategy has failed, and that it is time for a new, more constructive approach, which the Trump administration appears to be calling for.
And that includes both sides considering lifting blanket civil aviation bans. It will be complex and take some time, but is ultimately in every traveler's interest. Civil aviation shouldn't be held hostage to geopolitics.
I'm not disputing the intent of your post, but why on earth would you think that international aviation could be separated from geopolitics?
Putin could end the civil aviation bans with one neat trick: Leave Ukraine.
There was a lot of business going on with Russia even with countries that sanctioned Russia, anyway.
It could have a trickle down effect.Some European airlines would definitely benefit,, i.e. FinnAir. It will be interesting to see how the puppet reacts. Money on saying yes
Putin making it obvious who's in charge of the putin-maga alliance.
Finally! Some eco-friendly flights (especially TPAC) are in sight!
It's so much fun watching those who allowed themselves to be gaslit by the left for decades not able to understand what's really going on in the world as we revert to something approximating to sanity.
FYI the big deal on Russian overflight is European airlines getting to Asia. Chinese airlines have been doing very nicely meantime ...
Not sure when "prudent fiscal conservatism" started overlapping with admiration and support for dictators, but man I want this timeline to end.
Orange draft-dodging shitstain coward will capitulate to his Russian master.
It's nice we banned DEI and are now working on opening up the skies. But what about the egg prices??
What’s cesspool of comments. Zelenskyy goes to Washington in his pajamas to sign a cease fire. Doesn’t want to stop the war and wants more aid. How does that work ?
Could you be any less informed about the war in Ukraine??
Show me you’re a low information voter without saying you’re a low information voter
He was just wearing the same outfit as Mu$k from last week. Nothing he wore deserved the treatment he got from Comrades Trump and Vance.
Pajama? For someone who is on a travel website, you sure have a narrow world view. Suits are not even an American invention.
For those who are defending Trump, it’s not about Left or Right, Dems vs Republicans, it’s about the 100billion+ club vs everyone else.
Trump was a democrat
Musk was a democrat
Bezos is a democrat
Zuckerberg is a democrat
See a pattern, it’s not about which team u support, they brainwash you with social issues (migration, lgbtq, abortion…) to keep you busy while they put in laws and systems to control...
For those who are defending Trump, it’s not about Left or Right, Dems vs Republicans, it’s about the 100billion+ club vs everyone else.
Trump was a democrat
Musk was a democrat
Bezos is a democrat
Zuckerberg is a democrat
See a pattern, it’s not about which team u support, they brainwash you with social issues (migration, lgbtq, abortion…) to keep you busy while they put in laws and systems to control what you see, hear and eat. it’s about how you can enable those billionaires, each of them running a micro-dictatorship company and what unites them is their greed and desire to enslave all of us. Two class system - The Owners and The peasants.
Oh, dear. How ignorant this post appears to be about actual US political history. The Republicans lost their minds when Democrats elected a Southern evangelical christian in Jimmy Carter, which followed the end of Jim Crow and the US Civil Rights Movement. They thus launched the Southern Strategy, intentionally using racism to pit whites against Black folks (at the time)...it has continued to this day: the creation of the "Welfare Queen" trope by Reagan, even...
Oh, dear. How ignorant this post appears to be about actual US political history. The Republicans lost their minds when Democrats elected a Southern evangelical christian in Jimmy Carter, which followed the end of Jim Crow and the US Civil Rights Movement. They thus launched the Southern Strategy, intentionally using racism to pit whites against Black folks (at the time)...it has continued to this day: the creation of the "Welfare Queen" trope by Reagan, even though more white folks are on and have been on welfare in the States; redlining being the law until the late 70s and its lasting effects to this day; the "War on Drugs" that did nothing to curb drug use in America but instead created a pipeline to privately owned prisons; ignoring the AIDS epidemic and blaming in on LGBTQ+ folks; stoking Islamophobia throughout the 21st Century; the rapist/narco/diseased tropes of Central Americans; and now the transmania. If anyone launched "identity politics," it was the Right. The Left has reacted by defending all those folks the Right ha sought to other. Abortion also wasn't an issue until Republicans made it a wedge in the mid-70s - they were losing, badly, and created tensions and issues where there really weren't any. These 4 billionsaires jumped ship because it helped them make more money and consolidate industrial and political power. And kudos to them, I guess: it has paid off.
Aeroflot to become Delta core partner where we can finally redeem GUC on
Maybe one step further… Delta can get its next delivery of old used metal from the Aeroflot fleet!! They just gotta do their normal lipstick on a pig routine and bam! It’s so upscale and modern!!!
I’m sure it will bring a few more cents to their next qtr earnings though !
Maybe they will start handing out candies instead of meals in business.
Didn't Russia steal dozens of planes? Sure, let them fly to the U.S. and then confiscate the stolen planes.
Initially yes, but most of those have come to resolution with previous lessors, the latter of whom had huge incentive to settle, as those planes are now practically un-leaseable to other potential customers.
Apparently this comment section is where all the NAFO guys have been hiding since the Bad Orange Man came back. Was wondering where they scattered off to. Also funny to see real-life russiagate believers too. It’s like the island of lost toys in here,,
ukraine is not a real place, give it back to the poles romanians and russians and put the money into healthcare. the elementary school down my street needs pencils and a...
Apparently this comment section is where all the NAFO guys have been hiding since the Bad Orange Man came back. Was wondering where they scattered off to. Also funny to see real-life russiagate believers too. It’s like the island of lost toys in here,,
ukraine is not a real place, give it back to the poles romanians and russians and put the money into healthcare. the elementary school down my street needs pencils and a new coat of paint
Also i wanna fly the aeroflot trip seven
Maybe you should read a history book, Fwit
It's truly laughable that you think the US ceasing sales of military equipment to the Ukraine will somehow result in more money for schools. Especially because the Department of Education, which allocates federal funds to schools, is on the chopping block.
Trump already gave Ukraine to Russia. What's another favor to his BFF Putin? The world deserves better.
To me and other life-long conservatives, it is incomprehensible how MAGA has vilified Ronald Reagan. As a member of one of the most conservative Christian organizations in existence, it is incomprehensible how Project 2025's desire to transform the US into a Christian state can be characterized as Christian.
" . . . the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily;...
To me and other life-long conservatives, it is incomprehensible how MAGA has vilified Ronald Reagan. As a member of one of the most conservative Christian organizations in existence, it is incomprehensible how Project 2025's desire to transform the US into a Christian state can be characterized as Christian.
" . . . the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie . . . It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think there may be some other explanation." -- Adolf Hilter
I will delve into the politics of this all only to say
1. Aviation always reflects geopolitical realities.
2. we all want the loss of life, injuries, destruction of lives to end around the world. How that happens is still far from certain but most analysts believe both the US and Ukraine have a reason to come to the table.
There are bound to be lots of discussions this weekend in Europe...
I will delve into the politics of this all only to say
1. Aviation always reflects geopolitical realities.
2. we all want the loss of life, injuries, destruction of lives to end around the world. How that happens is still far from certain but most analysts believe both the US and Ukraine have a reason to come to the table.
There are bound to be lots of discussions this weekend in Europe as well as Ukraine and the US how to move forward.
As some of here have noted, I made one of my predictions for 2025 on another site that Russian airspace would reopen to western traffic. What has to happen in order for that to take place - and for Russia to be allowed to fly to the US - remains to be seen.
Because a good chunk of the aviation world is not abiding by Russia airspace sanctions, the impact to aviation is lopsided. There is alot of incentive to fix that.
SU asking to return to the US means that there has to be some decision among US airlines if it is worth granting that request. DL has served SVO (and other Russian airports) more than AA or UA. DL knows the value of the Russian market and whether it makes sense to return. The State dept. regularly asks US carrier interest in serving various parts of the world.
and, finally, let's remember that there is a huge amount of Russian personal wealth that is cut off from western sources; the amount of Russian tourism that no longer is seen by the EU is significant. Wealthy Russians came to the US for a long time but are not now. Trump's golden visa proposal could be particularly attractive to some of them.
economics and politics are intertwined. Ukraine needs to be secure, normal relations in the world need to be restored to the greatest degree possible, and airlines need to be able to fully serve the world and use its airspace to the greatest degree possible. None of that should come without any other part.
Granted not as easily as before but Russians can still move fairly comfortably around Europe via the likes of Turkey, Armenia and so on!
The uneven impact on aviation can (and should be) easily fixed by EU refusing any flight plans to touch both the EU and Russian airspace. Simple.
As for Russian tourism in the EU, there's unfortunately still too much of it since visa bans are far from comprehensive. Some member states now ban entry of Russian officials irrespective of having a valid visa (usually issued by another member state) but it's far from comprehensive. Again,...
The uneven impact on aviation can (and should be) easily fixed by EU refusing any flight plans to touch both the EU and Russian airspace. Simple.
As for Russian tourism in the EU, there's unfortunately still too much of it since visa bans are far from comprehensive. Some member states now ban entry of Russian officials irrespective of having a valid visa (usually issued by another member state) but it's far from comprehensive. Again, this has an easy fix by simply banning Russians from the EU unless they're dissidents, residents, etc.
The very same points apply to the US. Good luck with your airline business once you appease the dictator and the entire continent erupts in war, the same way it did after Munich Betrayal.
@Tim Dunn This comment was like a weak gin and tonic. You offered nothing here as the great analyst you pretend to be.
-There is no incentive for anyone to fix anything when Russia invades a peaceful neighbor.
-Trump could care less about U.S. airline needs in this decision. He cares only about Putin.
-Russian tourism? They are practically living in Europe now and the U.S. to escape the tyranny of their own nation. Clearly you don't travel much.
first, I said what I said because I am not wedded to one side or the other - while you clearly are.
Trade sanctions including the Russian airspace embargoes hurt all sides... the west justifies them because it is part of the "cost" of supporting war.
Russia has always been part of Europe. Part of Trump's platform -supported by widespread support from the American people - is that the US is tired of being the...
first, I said what I said because I am not wedded to one side or the other - while you clearly are.
Trade sanctions including the Russian airspace embargoes hurt all sides... the west justifies them because it is part of the "cost" of supporting war.
Russia has always been part of Europe. Part of Trump's platform -supported by widespread support from the American people - is that the US is tired of being the uncompensated police force for the world. Whether that is right or not, Trump has said he wants Europe to pay more for the security of Europe than the US does. The fact that Zelensky is now on a tour of European leaders where he is obtaining strong support might not only force Europe to increase its own defense spending but also make Europeans the primary backstop for Ukraine rather than the US.
As accurately noted above, the US and the west have repeatedly swung from support for China over Russia or vice versa. After decades of supporting China, the tide has turned.
From an aviation standpoint, China has long bought more Airbus aircraft than Boeing. Russian airspace embargoes are far more costly to western and esp. US airlines than decreased China trade and aviation - which has been the norm for most of the post covid era.
The "trump is russia's lapdog" routine can easily be discredited by world history.
none of which changes that we all want war to end and esp. between Russia and Ukraine.
How that will happen is anyone's guess but I do believe it will happen in 2025
first, I said what I said because I am not wedded to one side or the other - while you clearly are.
Trade sanctions including the Russian airspace embargoes hurt all sides... the west justifies them because it is part of the "cost" of supporting Ukraine in the war.
Russia has always been part of Europe. Part of Trump's platform -supported by widespread support from the American people - is that the US is tired...
first, I said what I said because I am not wedded to one side or the other - while you clearly are.
Trade sanctions including the Russian airspace embargoes hurt all sides... the west justifies them because it is part of the "cost" of supporting Ukraine in the war.
Russia has always been part of Europe. Part of Trump's platform -supported by widespread support from the American people - is that the US is tired of being the uncompensated police force for the world. Whether that is right or not, Trump has said he wants Europe to pay more for the security of Europe than the US does. The fact that Zelensky is now on a tour of European leaders where he is obtaining strong support might not only force Europe to increase its own defense spending but also make Europeans the primary backstop for Ukraine rather than the US.
Given that the Middle East is a continua flashpoint and the US has always played an outsized role there post WWII, it may be that the US prefers to lead in the Middle East - where Europe once did - and the US is happy to let Europe take the lead in Europe.
As accurately noted above, the US and the west have repeatedly swung from support for China over Russia or vice versa. After decades of supporting China, the tide has turned.
From an aviation standpoint, China has long bought more Airbus aircraft than Boeing. Russian airspace embargoes are far more costly to western and esp. US airlines than decreased China trade and aviation - which has been the norm for most of the post covid era.
The "trump is russia's lapdog" routine can easily be discredited by world history.
none of which changes that we all want war to end and esp. between Russia and Ukraine.
How that will happen is anyone's guess but I do believe it will happen in 2025
How can a foreign-born billionaire become a POTUS?
Well, by buying a POtUS.
Trump 2.0 is a South African billionaire who’s in bed with the Russians. DNC is done, GOP is gone, and if you don’t realize it yet, freedom and even writing comments like this will be banned soon. His voters will realize it when it’s too late. When they are jobless or officially full on slaves to their corporations and the...
How can a foreign-born billionaire become a POTUS?
Well, by buying a POtUS.
Trump 2.0 is a South African billionaire who’s in bed with the Russians. DNC is done, GOP is gone, and if you don’t realize it yet, freedom and even writing comments like this will be banned soon. His voters will realize it when it’s too late. When they are jobless or officially full on slaves to their corporations and the oligarchs. Oh and prices will continue to go up, inflation will soar but initially they will ignore all these signs. History rhymes!
Oh. Thought you were talking about Putin with those first 2 lines.
It fits.
It works both ways. Putin definitely has Trump and his toadying lickspittle Vance all sewn up and under control, that's for sure.
Wrong. Mariam Adelson was born in Palestine. Not South Africa.
It has also being said that Russia wants its diplomats to return to USA to activate their spy network.
Legit
Uhh… not sure what good the US lifting the ban would do Russia:
Aeroflot had flights to several EastCoast cities and LA, all routes passing through European countries who have banned Russian airlines as well.
Unless the US & Russia plan to invade Finnland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark/Greenland, they are not going to get very far without Europe…
But hey, they could fly Vladivostok to Anchorage…
With the Trump playbook, the required agreements from the European countries could be quickly achieved by the threat of tariffs.
Do you think
Canada is going to let them overfly to get to the US. With EU airspace closed. Landing rights in the US may not mean much.
US lifting the ban takes pressure off other countries which may be on the fence as it is. It’s all geopolitical, and a Russian diplomatic win if they can elevate the treatment of Russia by the major powers (US and China). These two giving approval of Russia is a signal to the rest of the world that it’s ok to do so too… it impacts everyone else’s opinions (well… other than most of Western Europe )
Few months ago I took CX JFK-HKG that went through near North Pole into Russian airspace. Because of the sanctions, Chinese carriers including CX are dominating the long haul markets that use shorter routes through Russia. Note that Turkey is a NATO member and TK is taking the full advantage by continuing flying to Russia. The same is for QR and EY. What I would do is to negotiate free or heavily discounted use of...
Few months ago I took CX JFK-HKG that went through near North Pole into Russian airspace. Because of the sanctions, Chinese carriers including CX are dominating the long haul markets that use shorter routes through Russia. Note that Turkey is a NATO member and TK is taking the full advantage by continuing flying to Russia. The same is for QR and EY. What I would do is to negotiate free or heavily discounted use of Russian airspace by US Flag carriers in return for allowing a few SU flights to the USA.
What’ll actually happen is Putin will demand back pay from the last 3 years of lost fees along with no such discounts and Trump will dutifully agree to it. He (Trump) will then be praised by his braindead supporters as a genius negotiator and dismiss any common sense criticism as “TDS”.
Interestingly CX avoids Russian airspace on European routes, even though it adds hours to the journey time.
My heart goes out to Zelensky and the Ukrainian people. As chump is putin's b*#&$ch, it was a given. Let's see what we Americans do when the russian mafia starts operating even more openly in America and when our spies all over the world begin to turn up dead.
Is this all bots commenting?
Zelensky is a clown. If he wanted to complain, he should’ve done it behind closed doors. Instead that dictator tried to fawn for the media. Vance and Trump stood up for American interests which are not aligned with Zelensky’s interests.
This is gaslighting at its finest. Implying that we're bots when you give the most bot-like, dumb justification to what can only be described as corruption at its peak in the US.
lol, the Russian bot game is strong today .
lol, the Russian bot game is strong today .
Trump should do what Putin wants, it takes courage and strength to consistently give in to demands time and again. The specifics of the question never matter, the answer is always the same because he is strong enough to consistently give in.
Ronald Reagan, hero to Republicans for decades, is rolling over in his grave seeing Trump suckle Putin’s feet
What MAGGOT nonsense.
And where does Trump complain? Publicly everywhere! He's the ultimate whiner.
And when was it ever serve American interests to be a puppet for a communist country?
Hal is clearly the literal Russian bot, don’t waste the energy of going into detail in your engagement with its argument. I mean it’s named after the damn bot HAL in 2000 space odyssey.
HAL, the bot from 2000 space odyssey… too on the nose Russian bot troll.
A "pretty rough exchange?" That's an understatement. And it was hardly an exchange. It was a one-sided ganging up that was horrifying to watch as a good man was literally set up on the world stage as millions of lives hang in the balance.
Zelensky has more to lose and it's his lack of quick thinking and not controlling his temper that caused the breakdown. I realize that things can happen quickly but he made a wrong move. Zelensky could have handled it better.
English is his third language. Hard to think quick in a third language when you are ambushed.
Thank you.
The only people that lost their temper in that meeting were Comrades Trump and Vance. Zelenskyy thought he was being punked. How could America, the beacon of freedom in this world, be treating him this way?
We given him 150 billion dollars. Time for him to start paying back and end the war. Run America like a business instead of a charity. You want to see some cuts to govt jobs? Put dems Tim Cook or Mark Zuck in charge for a year. They will balance the budget.
The world doesn’t owe this version of America squat so get over it.
Given recent events, there would definitely be significant safety issues flying over Russian air space!
Avoid window seats?
Great news! It will help lowering the price of airlines tickets.
Thank you, President Trump!
The original embargo was done because of a Russian invasion bringing nearly universal condemnation from both Republicans and Democrats.
NOTHING has changed except that Trump. Is a Russian agent
US defecting to join the Axis powers
Trump should open the airspace, but negotiate the overfly rates.
Yes, US airlines get free passage for 5 years and no increase in rates the next 10 years in exchange for withdrawal from 500 square miles of Ukrainian territory. Russian planes would be allowed into US airspace.
Trump is a Russian asset and will cave to whatever Putin wants.
Are you ok? Sounds like you are suffering from a bad case of TDS.
There's delusion here and it's you, not Dan. Contrary to what you might think, tomorrow does not belong to you.
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Rather you like it or not Trump is the duly elected President. Deal with it
Did you do that when either Obama or Biden were President?
It’s actually President Musk and his second in command, Comrade Trump
He is the president AND a Russian asset. Has been for 15+ years. Like Tulsi who is a democrat. Both reliable Russian assets. I also don't care. Im just saying he will cave to Putin.
Blah blah, blah blah, blah blah. I didn't vote for him.
The world doesn’t owe this version of America squat so get over it.
We're still doing the "Russian asset" thing?
Dude, f#ck Donald Trump, but come on: we had a 2 year investigation by special counsel, with total subpoena power, under the protection of a Democratic congress, and they weren't able to establish a connection. The evidence was NOT there to support it.
Trump may have an affinity for a strongman like Putin, probably because he wishes he was one. But this whole "Trump wakes up to...
We're still doing the "Russian asset" thing?
Dude, f#ck Donald Trump, but come on: we had a 2 year investigation by special counsel, with total subpoena power, under the protection of a Democratic congress, and they weren't able to establish a connection. The evidence was NOT there to support it.
Trump may have an affinity for a strongman like Putin, probably because he wishes he was one. But this whole "Trump wakes up to receive his orders from the Kremlin" thing, is truly derangement syndrome at this point, to those still holding onto THAT.
It really is time to let that go.
You don’t have to wake up and receive orders to be an asset (actually, that’s more akin to an agent than an asset). A useful idiot is still an asset.
Well clearly you didnt read the muller report.
Also start with red notice from bill browser to understand a little bit more what you are talking about
You assume so much, while knowing so little.
@ImmortalSyn You mean the investigation that happened during Trump's first term, where Mueller's report specifically stated that the only reason they didn't try to charge Trump with obstruction was because of the whole "sitting president" thing? Nevermind that multiple people in his campaign, like Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort, did have clandestine meetings with the Russian ambassador and Russian intelligence assets, tried to set up a direct line of communication outside of the government to...
@ImmortalSyn You mean the investigation that happened during Trump's first term, where Mueller's report specifically stated that the only reason they didn't try to charge Trump with obstruction was because of the whole "sitting president" thing? Nevermind that multiple people in his campaign, like Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort, did have clandestine meetings with the Russian ambassador and Russian intelligence assets, tried to set up a direct line of communication outside of the government to Russia for Trump, and took campaign funding from Russia for Trump's campaign, and were indicted for it?
Wake up man, the connection was there, as Miguel says just because Trump isn't literally waking up to get his daily brief from Putin does not mean he didn't hire people who factually were and still are in Russia's pocket, then tried to squash and cover up their dealings with Russia after he was elected, and LISTENS to those people as advisors in his administration.