Yesterday I shared the spat that airline vlogger Josh Cahill is having with Air Côte d’Ivoire. While I appreciate his stated purpose of holding airlines accountable, there’s no denying that trouble follows Josh wherever he goes. Along those lines, I just received an interesting email, and I’ll leave it to y’all to decide what I should do with this…
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Josh Cahill’s personal assistant sent me a sassy email
On my post yesterday about the spat between Josh Cahill and Air Côte d’Ivoire, a frequent commenter wrote the following:
I understand that Josh and perhaps others have invited Ben to have a discussion live/broadcast online or a video, and perhaps Ben has been invited to the Avcon summit of aviation/airline YouTubers in April. But Ben has declined Josh’s invitations. I could be wrong, but this is my understanding of it…
That caught me off guard, because if I’ve ever been invited to have a discussion with Josh (or anyone in his circle), that would be news to me. Now, I was invited to Av-Con 2026 by someone else, but I haven’t committed to that, because it seems more YouTube and video focused, which isn’t really my jam.
So in response to that comment, I asked if there was anything I’m missing, because I genuinely don’t remember receiving an invitation to chat with Josh, let alone declining it. I didn’t hear anything further there, until today, when I received an email from Josh’s personal assistant:
I hope this email finds you well and you are having a great week!
I’m [name], PA to Josh and I’m reaching out regarding the ongoing smear campaign you have going on against him. A couple of viewers have forwarded your articles, as well as screenshots of personal messages that you have exchanged, sharing your bias and disgust towards Josh…
Neither do your recent claims match the statements we received from Air Cote D’ivoire Airlines or Booking in regards to Josh’s recent flight. We would love to invite you for an interview and present those to you, as well as the screenshots from group chats and personal conversation on camera. We can come to wherever you want us to be or have you flown into a neutral location of your choice, all expenses covered of course.
I’m sure you have no issue putting your money where your mouth is right? Let’s get the ball rolling as we are dying to see all your evidence of the claims that you have made. I’m sure this is going to be great fun and as a true journalist you claim to be, you are eager to showcase the truth to your audience too, isn’t it?
Let me know your availability please!
Goodness gracious, where do we even begin here?
- I’d love to see the screenshots of personal messages that I’ve exchanged about Josh that share my bias and disgust? That would be news to me, because the extent of me chiming in on Josh is what you’ll see published on this blog
- I’m really confused by the claim of our meeting being all expenses paid, and also telling me to put my money where my mouth is; I’m fine paying for my own travel, but those things kinda contradict one another, no? Or am I the one paying all the expenses for everyone? Or is that just a general expression about being willing to have a discussion?
- It’s ironic that I apparently claim to be a “true journalist,” because I don’t claim that; I’m a blogger who just writes what I find interesting online without pretense, while Josh likes to credentialize himself as a “Multi-Award Winning Aviation Journalist & YouTuber”
I’ll let y’all decide what I should do here…
I must admit that I’m quite amused, though I’m not sure to what extent it makes sense to engage. A certain quote comes to mind — “never wrestle with a pig, you just get dirty, and the pig enjoys it.”
As I see it, Josh looks for conflict any place he can. That’s a big part of his schtick. I’d be more than happy to have a discussion with Josh, and share my perspective on things. However, an in-person meeting where there will be sharing of “the screenshots from group chats and personal conversation on camera” is really odd to me, because like I said, I don’t even know what he’s referencing.
Being confronted with something that I don’t think exists is just a very strange premise for meeting. I’d encourage him to release those things now… I have nothing to hide! Release the OMAAT Files!! He’s also really good at editing videos to make himself look good, and I’m worried he’d try to do the same here.
There’s no ego in this for me, and I’m just trying to stand up for the average customer here. There are things I’d love to ask Josh about, though, and I don’t need to keep them a secret until our live meeting.
For example, why does Josh so carelessly film other passengers on flights, in violation of virtually every carrier’s policy on filming other passengers, while not blurring out their faces? Most people don’t board a flight expecting to be filmed in a video that will be viewed by hundreds of thousands of people (or more)?
And why does Josh outright lie in his videos? For example, when he flew Legend Airlines, he told the crew member he wasn’t recording them and that there is “no record of you” while literally recording them.
The funny thing is that what Josh is labeling as a “smear campaign” is really just me being balanced. I’ve also covered multiple of his reviews where I defended him and said the airline was out of line — just take a look at what I wrote about his awful Aero Dili experience, or how he was banned from Qatar Airways. I’d say that’s pretty balanced, no?
For what it’s worth, I’ve responded to the email asking for some clarification, and also inviting them to share what details I got wrong with Josh’s Air Côte d’Ivoire flight. I’m sure he can appreciate my desire to correct any mistakes ASAP, rather than waiting for some in-person showdown that he’s hoping for.
Bottom line
Josh Cahill wants to “interview” me, and confront me with “personal messages” I’ve reportedly exchanged, sharing my “bias and disgust” toward Josh. He doesn’t just want to do a virtual video interview, but wants to meet in person.
I’m conflicted on this. If Josh wants to have a conversation, I’m happy to do so. If he has some sort of evidence of things I’ve reportedly said about him in private, I encourage him to release it. That seems like the mature thing to do. But I’m a little conflicted regarding the theatrics here, of him wanting to confront me live. But I also have nothing to hide, so…?
To the OMAAT community, how would you like me to handle this situation?
Stop giving that gobshite the time of day ffs. Literally deserves not a single mention.
We are discussing Aljoscha Wendholt, a self-proclaimed Australian who speaks with a pronounced Saxon/German accent yet travels on a German passport to and from Australia.
His business model revolves around manufacturing and amplifying controversy for clickbaiting and views. Issuing threats against individuals is a deliberate tactic within this approach.
My strong recommendation: All airlines should add him to their no-fly lists to prevent further disruptions.
Don't give him free oxygen.
We are discussing Aljoscha Wendholt, a self-proclaimed Australian who speaks with a pronounced Saxon/German accent yet travels on a German passport to and from Australia.
His business model revolves around manufacturing and amplifying controversy for clickbaiting and views. Issuing threats against individuals is a deliberate tactic within this approach.
My strong recommendation: All airlines should add him to their no-fly lists to prevent further disruptions.
Don't give him free oxygen.
I’ve read some of your reports in reference to this clown ‘ thought you were very fair & balanced. Certainly more than aid have been.
He’s just trying to use you for attention. Hard pass.
The fact that you have several articles about this situation and ask the viewers of your blog about the situation draws more attention to it which is equally unnecessary and our opinion will not change what you will do.
This 100%.
Now it makes me wonder why he continuously attacks Sam Chui while the guy did nothing to him other than responding to him to clear up his name after his attack. Jealousy? Sam is obviously more successful than him but he's been in the industry much longer than him. I think Sam should mention when the airlines give him free rides on his videos versus using miles or pay for his own flights.
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Now it makes me wonder why he continuously attacks Sam Chui while the guy did nothing to him other than responding to him to clear up his name after his attack. Jealousy? Sam is obviously more successful than him but he's been in the industry much longer than him. I think Sam should mention when the airlines give him free rides on his videos versus using miles or pay for his own flights.
I think Josh likes to play a (nice guy) victim and that many airlines hate him for being honest?
Don't waste your time with him. You did nothing other than stating the facts which obviously he cannot handle well. You are far better than him.
Sam Chui is no better and deserves the negative reception as much as Josh Cahill.
Who is this Josh guys again? Reader from Singapore here and I have genuinely not heard of this guys. Let me give it a Google.
Don't take the bait. He needs you more than you need him. He's a scammer.
Probably already said, but don't fall for the trap. There's zero upside for you, while the other guy will most likely use the spiteful "own him" techniques on you. As you can see the lying has already started in the PA's email.
Don't even reply to the PA. Ghosting is the only way to make these things go away; engaging will only open up the avenue for them to harass you more in order to get you to attend.
Do not meet with this guy! That email tells you all you want to know about how he wants to deal with people. Don't get dragged down into some drama, especially when he's trying to dictate how it goes down. I say, keep doing what you're doing and covering newsworthy events about him, but do not engage.
He should fire the PA.
He is the "PA" lol
I would have the discussion, take him to task.
Dont go. I liked him at start, but something wrong going on with this guy. A lot of problems with the crews, filming people, exc. His objectivity when flying is questionable, to say the least he liked 3rd world airlines, and nearly always dislike others. Like say before, liked him but not any more
Most "3rd world airlines", especially from Asia, are indeed better. Check out Skytrax.
But yes, Josh Cahill is an obnoxious guy, and most people agree.
Just ignore him & continue your writing.
He is one of those that goes around looking for trouble when there was none to begin with.
Award winning my @$$.
We can expect Josh to add Ben (together with Sam Chui) to the 'mortal enemies' bucket.
Ben, you do realise that you will be name-dropped in his vlogs.
I dislike Josh even more now.
I’ll bet money Josh wrote that email himself and sent it under the guise of a supposed PA.
I wouldn't even comment. He needs you more than you need him. It appears this would give him a boost by doing, whatever, with your attentions in this matter. I think it's a clear baiting tactic. Ignore, ignore, ignore.
Dear Ben,
After careful review, management recommends not engaging in interviews that resemble live-action Reddit threads.
Thank you for your compliance.
Never complain,Never explain.
Whats great for the british monarchy, it should be fine to you….
The lad isn‘t worth a dime.
Cahill the drama queen strikes again...
Sam chui might be over the top and cringe but josh's claim as he is warrior of truth and everyone needs to listen to him is BS... Never seen adult more narcissistic than him. Second only to DJT ofc.
No Ben. Tell him you’re already married!
Josh is the literally worst airline/travel content creator that I’ve come across. He fabricates drama for rage/clickbait and is often just straight out rude and disrespectful.
Do not engage with this numbskull.
Hey Ben, interesting. I once had a customer who became partners in a new business. Once I began to see how he really worked, it became evident that he created problems that he could fix.
He caused other people many headaches, and then he would come in as the hero with the solution.
He could have won an Oscar.
Maybe, just maybe this fellow uses the same technique.
All I'll say is, Ben, if you can handle the Egyptian government's lies, you'll probably be able to handle this yahoo's lies. However, stay away. Focus on what this blog the best.
Don't do a video interview with him. That's obviously a trap. He'll probably spring on you faked messages and try to catch you off guard.
But maybe you can do a written Q&A session where he replies to your questions and he replies to yours.
DO. NOT. DO IT. Don't give him the oxygen - look at how many comments this has received - he's loving it in the "all publicity is good" line of thinking. You elevate him and that's what he wants.
Ignore!!!
All this over an airline that 99.9% of the world doesn't give a flying f*ck about.
F*ck him. I've watched a few of his videos. So entitled and holier-than-thou attitude towards everything. Blech. ZERO authenticity.
Ignore, block, move on. Don't let him drag you to his level.
Either handle the situation with stoicism or charge them $1000 for a fireside chat.
Ben has more class and manners. Josh Cahill is a passionate av geek and good art form but comparing Ben and Josh is like comparing boxers in different weight classes I suppose.
Do not go. Do not waste your time. I am sure you would regret spending any time with that person.
I agree that Ben is one of the most balanced and overall positive online persons I know (of). But in this and the other article are the ones where Ben was most direct / insulting to someone else, which was surprising to me. I'm not saying Josh doesn't deserve that, but maybe Ben should tone it down a bit, especially if he is considering doing some meeting with Josh.
(though I'm surprised that Josh...
I agree that Ben is one of the most balanced and overall positive online persons I know (of). But in this and the other article are the ones where Ben was most direct / insulting to someone else, which was surprising to me. I'm not saying Josh doesn't deserve that, but maybe Ben should tone it down a bit, especially if he is considering doing some meeting with Josh.
(though I'm surprised that Josh would have a PA, I could imagine this is someone who tries to troll Ben (and or Josh) by inpersonating a PA.
Please Ben, do not get sucked deeper into this. Josh is just one big „smear campaign“ and you don’t want this spilling over to the reputation of your blog. I’ve stopped watching Josh‘s videos years ago because I can’t stand the condescending and rude way he deals with service staff. I love your blog because it is calm, at times amusing and because you are just generally a really great person. Keep it up. And...
Please Ben, do not get sucked deeper into this. Josh is just one big „smear campaign“ and you don’t want this spilling over to the reputation of your blog. I’ve stopped watching Josh‘s videos years ago because I can’t stand the condescending and rude way he deals with service staff. I love your blog because it is calm, at times amusing and because you are just generally a really great person. Keep it up. And please don‘t put yourself on a level with this abomination of a YouTuber.
I agree with Josh... put your money where your mouth is and join the discussion.... If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.... both of you are very opinionated and at times annoying, although Josh is way more so (but in fairness, he does videos and you do not)
you have it figured out all along: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.”
Josh sounds like an awful person. Don't waste your time on him- when his/their initial interactions are all dishonest or misleading, you know it'll only get worse.
Don't do it. Aljoscha Wendholt (Josh's real name), will just make it another click-bait drama. Biased towards him.
Wow, up to 307 comments so far. Your October 3 post has the most (over 800); and, so far this has beat out the post about Jet from June 30 (about 260).
Ben, you must see that even 'faux-controversy' is handily rewarded in this 'attention' economy.
This sounds like a setup. If you are considering meeting/interviewing, I'd require he release all the emails etc. he claims you wrote. If he releases false fabricated notes, he would be libel for slander since I doubt you qualify as a "public person" who can have slings and arrows sent his way without legal repercussion.
Or, probably better yet, just ignore it. It's not going to affect how your regular readers (as I am)...
This sounds like a setup. If you are considering meeting/interviewing, I'd require he release all the emails etc. he claims you wrote. If he releases false fabricated notes, he would be libel for slander since I doubt you qualify as a "public person" who can have slings and arrows sent his way without legal repercussion.
Or, probably better yet, just ignore it. It's not going to affect how your regular readers (as I am) view you, and it might drive some new readers to your website. As they say: "Tis an ill wind that blows no good." :-)
So sorry this is happening to you. Sign of the times, huh?
This is just so wild -- please don't give in to this and feed the clicky-baity-like drama (who knows why this is even happening TBH). Just ignore it. I've been a fan and avid loyal reader of yours for years, and to be fair I've also been a fan and enjoyed most of Josh's content in the past years but something has shifted and now I'm really just deterred by the latter.
WOW... this is going to reach 300 comments. First time ever?
So many engagements for the invite, imagine how much the brawl will bring in.
Tearing apart Josh is so easy.
Just ask for his birth certificate.
People who tell you to walk away doesn't understand your line of work.
Sure a normal boring nobody wouldn't want to engage hard to deal with characters. They just avoid people and clean up on aisle...
WOW... this is going to reach 300 comments. First time ever?
So many engagements for the invite, imagine how much the brawl will bring in.
Tearing apart Josh is so easy.
Just ask for his birth certificate.
People who tell you to walk away doesn't understand your line of work.
Sure a normal boring nobody wouldn't want to engage hard to deal with characters. They just avoid people and clean up on aisle 5.
You don't see Larry King or David Letterman or even Oprah running away from controversial people.
You come prepared and confront them.
Reach out to your "real" mentors, get them to prep you.
Run away and Josh will slaughter your reputation forever.
Crush him and you become one of the almighty travel influencer gods that rule the eternal land of the internet.
Did I mention that this invitation already attracted 300 comments?
Did I mention just ask for his birth certificate?
Now go exterminate John, I mean Josh.
Gott der Benjamin!!!!!
I'm all-in when it comes to supporting people who are above reproach, though the birth certificate is a...wild one.
I'm going to swim against the stream and suggest that Ben DOES go see Josh and does the interview. We'll do a Crowdfund of Points to pay for your flight and hotel, Lucky :)
I bet Ben wrote that email himself. Personal assistant my a**
Don't forget to wipe the sh*t off your nose when you're done kissing Cahill's a**.
JC used to be interesting. Now he doesn't even bother providing basic flight information like journey time (e.g. no catering on a 4 hour flight - bad; on a 45 minute flight - who cares?)
It would be futile. Your blog is as balanced as it can get.
Do not engage.
Going on video during a hostile interview is asking to be ambushed.
I vote, no.
Even though the email is a bit sarcastic, I’d say that it’s good to talk to Josh face to face. Even if you think he’s dishonest or disrespectful, if you are value driven and objective, you can still manifest integrity and “humanity” during an interview no matter how that interview/video will be edited. Often people solve conflicts or misunderstanding more efficiently when talking face to face, not online/virtually. I’m pretty sure that Josh is able...
Even though the email is a bit sarcastic, I’d say that it’s good to talk to Josh face to face. Even if you think he’s dishonest or disrespectful, if you are value driven and objective, you can still manifest integrity and “humanity” during an interview no matter how that interview/video will be edited. Often people solve conflicts or misunderstanding more efficiently when talking face to face, not online/virtually. I’m pretty sure that Josh is able to show respect back. I think we all should try to make this world a little better, but by only talking to people that we like and avoid those that have different perspectives, we just continue to promote division. Let’s all be friends and be open to talk.
This ancient Jedi mind trick comes to mind:
"These aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along....move along..."
Never understand why didn't they mind trick their way around Death Star.
"We're not the Rebels you're looking for. Now take us to for a tour but avoid bumping into Vader..."
Lucas was as clumsy as Rian Johnson.
We all know he approved the Holiday Special no matter how he hides it.
Don’t engage with him, he’s clearly gearing up to post another vlog about your interaction and any communication you have will feed his narrative.
Don't grace the channel of that person with your presence. What needs to happen is that many people click the thumbs down button on his videos and block his content, so that person gets less views and less money from youtube.
Ignore him. If you reply, you'll be featured in his next video and he'll make more money. As you said, only controversy exist.
Please don’t go! Josh is hungry for content that’s controversial. I have been viewing his videos for a while and literally decided not to see any more a few days ago. Some of his comments to brown people were absolutely disgusting. He gives out extra money to street vendors and says “today is your lucky day”. Yikes. What makes a white man say that after doling out $10 extra? It’s nothing in the grand scheme...
Please don’t go! Josh is hungry for content that’s controversial. I have been viewing his videos for a while and literally decided not to see any more a few days ago. Some of his comments to brown people were absolutely disgusting. He gives out extra money to street vendors and says “today is your lucky day”. Yikes. What makes a white man say that after doling out $10 extra? It’s nothing in the grand scheme of things for anybody in this world. It’s not a life changing gift. Sure, pay someone a bit extra or tip them generously, but please don’t say stuff like “today is your lucky day”. That’s bad!
I rarely comment but I've been reading for almost a decade, throughout that time OMaaT has built a hugely positive reputation based off honest and transparent reporting. Josh Cahill doesn't share these values and if given the opportunity will edit any conversation to paint you in a negative light, any engagement with him just fuels his desire for conflict.
Offer to interview him, schedule a time and place to discuss travel. Travel to the hotel, review the hotel and journey, leave a sex doll with some recorded questions on it, go enjoy a beautiful city and bill the bitch for the trip.
Why should you waste your time speaking with some vlogging loser that creates drama? I was going to suggest to leave some shit for him to talk to but that would...
Offer to interview him, schedule a time and place to discuss travel. Travel to the hotel, review the hotel and journey, leave a sex doll with some recorded questions on it, go enjoy a beautiful city and bill the bitch for the trip.
Why should you waste your time speaking with some vlogging loser that creates drama? I was going to suggest to leave some shit for him to talk to but that would be unfair to the cleanup crew and morally wrong.
The guy lives off of drama and wants to suck off your popularity. Otherwise might I suggest you invite to meet him in say Egypt and sucker him into a negative review and leave himbehind?
What's amusing me is that he seems to be so upset with you, yet leaves it to his PA to contact you because he's obviously too busy and important to write to you himself!
That said I'd steer well clear of his attention seeking drama.
Real joke here is that Josh can afford or needs a PA...
OMG yes! Why is no one noticing this. It’s so true
The real real joke here is believing Josh is a professional YouTuber that does everything by himself.
Ben, I am new to your blog and only been reading for about 6 months regularly, but come back here every day. However, I have been many travel vloggers and came to the conclusion that Josh Cahill is trash. I have no intention to giving him any clicks/views and thus would highly recommend you not to fall for the bait.
Ben, you have already given this drama queen more attention than he needs. I can't believe you are even considering.
This guy just creates drama everywhere he goes to get clicks, pretends to be some kind of expert on aviation safety because he has flown a lot of miles and is just plain obnoxious.
I totally agree. After watching a few of his videos, I tend to avoid giving him my views now. He obviously looks for things that he can exploit as controversial. I suspect he fully knows exactly what he is walking into in most cases. My advice is simply stay away and don't give him any more publicity.
Every November there seems to be some absurd event happening on this site. Last year it was the Egyptian government "exposing" Lucky for "lying" about Cairo airport, and now Josh Cahill wants to make Lucky look like a fool. Ignore him, and keep on doing what you do Lucky. Maybe at a later date you can make a list of you favourite airline youtubers (if there are any).
have the interview
Walk away. Fact that you posted about this already gives him more publicity than he deserves.
Ignore, Ben. He’s a total wanker, and you’re sooooooo much better than he will ever be.
Also, that email was clearly written by an Indian. They often confuse & substitute the phrase ‘isn’t it’ for ‘aren’t they’.
@Ben
Dear Ben, avoid that piece of trash who goes by the names Josh Cahill. Don't meet him. He just wants publicity. He has gained nothing by calling out Sam Chui for years. Now he thinks he will gain something by going after you.
Avoid him and stay safe.
Lol he's just gonna pull you in to get more views..... don't do it..... If he wants to share anything he can do so over email.
Cahill is much like Trump. A life full of drama hoping people will believe him. Ignore and focus on your fair and balanced blog.
Hmmm….
That email from Josh’s ‘PA’ looks suspiciously written by Josh himself….
It sounds fishy... A PA? Stay away, please... Don't take the bait... Don't feed the...
FFS stop giving this clown attention. Don't do it. You have the high ground and have nothing to prove or gain here. Jeez, i like your blog, but if there is more cringe like this i think i will move on.
Ask yourself: What am I going to achieve? What will I get out of this? And then realize that it's not going to happen. Nothing good will come out of this.
Why did you mention this guy in the first place? Guessing that half of your readers didn't know who he was. I didn't. Now everyone on this site knows who this guy is. Including me.
Pandora's Box; Get Your Wings; Aerosmith 1974
All I learnt from this article is Youtubers can afford assistants. Here is me slogging away in my basement cubicle all on my own and someone stole my stapler.
And don’t engage.
Just taking a step back, how do we know that this was actually Josh's assistant?
@Ben,
Don't engage, there is little to no upside for you or your blog.
DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT!!!! IT IS A TRAP!!!!!
Respectfully,
SullyofDoha
You're not sully of Doha.
You're Admiral Akbar.
Just some random thoughts:
1.How do we know the PA exists at all and it’s not just a prank email from someone random to heat up the discussion? Some people enjoy getting on someone else’s nerves for no reason.
2.IMHO you’re in position to reach out to that MP or even Air Côte d’Ivoire directly to back you up and bake JC.
3.Regarding him wining about Air Côte d’Ivoire deleting comments - check out the...
Just some random thoughts:
1.How do we know the PA exists at all and it’s not just a prank email from someone random to heat up the discussion? Some people enjoy getting on someone else’s nerves for no reason.
2.IMHO you’re in position to reach out to that MP or even Air Côte d’Ivoire directly to back you up and bake JC.
3.Regarding him wining about Air Côte d’Ivoire deleting comments - check out the comments below this YT video https://youtu.be/LGs_z9lciPk quite a few people report that JC can’t stand any drop of criticism and is deleting such comments.
Don't waste your time with that child.
No is a complete sentence. I think that applies here.
Ignore him, don't respond. You have nothing to gain.
Hold the interview/cage match at the Cairo airport!!
If you argue with an idiot you only prove that there is more than one in the room. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience !
Pass on the meet, Ben. you are too good for that.
He's a coward and deletes posts on his YT sites from other vloggers who calls him out. What a sorry a_s!
Don’t waste your time with this guy.
@Lucky -- You're sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place. If you meet him, you're wrestling with a pig (as you humorously noted). If you decline, he'll make you out to be a chicken (even though he is the one acting like chicken s...alad).
How about you and him exchange ten rounds of e-mails laying out your positions, maximum 1,000 words (per e-mail), and including any relevant attachments (e.g. photos), with both...
@Lucky -- You're sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place. If you meet him, you're wrestling with a pig (as you humorously noted). If you decline, he'll make you out to be a chicken (even though he is the one acting like chicken s...alad).
How about you and him exchange ten rounds of e-mails laying out your positions, maximum 1,000 words (per e-mail), and including any relevant attachments (e.g. photos), with both of you agreeing to post the full e-mail exchanges online.
This format will save you having to make a trip to Josh's lion's lair (liar?) but also provide an asynchronous debate form. Too bad you can't call Gary (Leff) to be your proxy/champion, Gary would probably kill it for you. lol
I'm not familiar with Cahill but he sounds like a major d...umbarse. Good luck, Lucky!
If you do go (you shouldn't) I second bringing both Gary Leff and Matthew Klint on board in this conversation ... That would be epic.
Gary and Matthew?
I would pay to see this WrestleMania.
Do not engage Ben. Not worth your time. The people who read your blog religiously do so because it is informative, factual and impartial. This other guys seems like a waste of your and our time!
Release the OMAAT Files!!
Screw him man! Continue the good work you do.
Related, but unrelated, what is the city in the picture that you have in this post?
Don't do it..he's a clown looking for clicks
Don't elevate the asshole by engaging with him.
Ben, you have almost 250 comments on this post which I assume has driven higher than normal clicks on your page. You got your engagement! Now please let this go. I beg you. I will keep revisiting this post as much as I need to for you to get your bag. Do not engage.
Beautifully said Ben.
Think you've done all you can . They are welcome to provide proof to their claims . No interview .
Waste of your time. He'll just heavily edit the video to make you look terrible, plus his subscribers are not terribly bright and will end up harassing you on his behalf.
If you ever run into him, record the entire encounter so he can't smear you.
"isn't it". The ending sentence makes it clear that Josh outsources his PA duties to someone in India. Josh, put your money where your mouth is and inshore your PA's job!
bet you, his assistant is ChatGPT
Cahill's a tool. The dude manufactures drama for clicks and lacks credibility as you have outlined. Don't waste your time with this narcissist.
Where to start? Hmmmm...
-- It certainly seems, to put it in the most generous way imaginable, that trouble does indeed follow Josh Cahill wherever he goes. That would lead most people to believe that the trouble is caused/created by Mr. Cahill. (I am one of those people.)
-- Everything you've written in regard to not receiving an invitation, not sending personal messages, and so on sounds like "baiting the trap," so Mr. Cahill...
Where to start? Hmmmm...
-- It certainly seems, to put it in the most generous way imaginable, that trouble does indeed follow Josh Cahill wherever he goes. That would lead most people to believe that the trouble is caused/created by Mr. Cahill. (I am one of those people.)
-- Everything you've written in regard to not receiving an invitation, not sending personal messages, and so on sounds like "baiting the trap," so Mr. Cahill can play "Gotcha!" It is quite easy these days to forge an email, or text message, or some other form of written communiqué -- hell, with AI, your own voice could be faked and YOU would swear it was you talking, except you never said that.
I could go on, but the bottom line, Ben, is don't fall for the trap. Ignore him. He strikes me as more Alex Jones than Walter Cronkite.
Anyone who sends (or has their assistant send) an email like that is not a serious person. Keep doing what you're doingm stay professional and DO NOT roll in the mud with people like that.
Ben , you have wasted your time with this nonsense . This entire subject ought to be forgotten and done with .
Don’t do it. We read your blog for other reasons than for a battle with some random dude.
Just ignore them. Remember the old saying about wrestling with a pig in the mud
They were forwarded your (supposed) negative remarks by others = we aren't intelligent enough to find them ourselves (if they existed, that is.) I unsubscribed to his channel long ago for always having negative experiences. I'm a believer in cancel culture. As for how you should respond: I find it is always easier to walk around dog crap than trying to pick it up without a bag.
This should be the quickest and easiest "no" you can make...
If it was me, I wouldn't engage at all as I feel there is a hidden agenda to pretty much tarnish your reputation while he will try to bolster his.
What was your initial response or your gut instinct? Whatever it was go with that. It's usually not wrong.
That is a pretty harsh and passive aggresive note from Josh"s assistant. Ben you are pretty level-headed I don't think you have any need to have a public exchange with this guy.
You have infinitely more class and credibility than Josh, Please don't consider engaging him. Nothing good will come from it. Think of rolling in mud with pigs....not that there is anything wrong with pigs, per SE. It's the mud thing, Benn.
I think it is obvious that he wants to lure you somewhere so he can wring your neck.. the “wrestle with a pig “ analogy doesn’t help….
If I read his note right he had his Toad (pa) reach out to you. Respectfully he should have done it himself. I see no upside for you to engage in a one on one with him. It will be ugly. If Josh says you got it wrong, let him state how. Then you can decide. I saw the video and thought it was cleverly edited. What’s true and what’s not is hard to tell....
If I read his note right he had his Toad (pa) reach out to you. Respectfully he should have done it himself. I see no upside for you to engage in a one on one with him. It will be ugly. If Josh says you got it wrong, let him state how. Then you can decide. I saw the video and thought it was cleverly edited. What’s true and what’s not is hard to tell. Josh is an influencer and a vloger. He is not a journalist so let’s take what he says with a grain of salt on this one. You had a quote from a government official that pretty much spells out what happened from the airlines point of view. I can decide who I believe.
Politely decline or just blow him off. There’s no reason to engage with him.
I think it's best to avoid a conflict where there isn't one you want to fight. Pick your battles, choose peace of mind.
Josh is a diva and tries to stir up controversey + sic his drone followers on anyone who crosses him. You should just ignore this
You noticed his bots too? he's a f*cking scumbag for using them to do his bidding. He sent them harrass air Côte d'Ivoire's social media and even employees of the airline.
If this is legit, this is an excellent example of someone so lacking in self-control that they end up in a downward spiral making things progressively worse for themself. Every attempt to reassert control over the narrative just makes it worse, yet they can't stop. It becomes compulsive. You can't save people from themselves.
See also: in a hole, and still digging.
I think you may be overthinking this.
I’m usually entertained by Josh’s videos and think you’re guilty of ascribing to him normal behavior that may have only popped up on a few of his posts.
Is he sometimes guilty of hyperbole? Yes. For example, do I think he has an assistant? Hell, no.
But I think he often points out serious and valid service issues just as often as he compliments good...
I think you may be overthinking this.
I’m usually entertained by Josh’s videos and think you’re guilty of ascribing to him normal behavior that may have only popped up on a few of his posts.
Is he sometimes guilty of hyperbole? Yes. For example, do I think he has an assistant? Hell, no.
But I think he often points out serious and valid service issues just as often as he compliments good service.
You may not like his approach but he fills a niche. I don’t want to fly Iraqi Airways but if he does and wants to overpay for a crappy business class seat, power to him.
Using "hyperbole" to refer to his lies is a hell of an euphemism. He's a liar, nothing less than that.
When negative review represents 90%+ of Josh video. There is something disproportionately wrong. The last I check (out of all the airlines that I have ever flown on), I don’t remember the track record being that bad. Also, Josh often claims safety concerns, or rules violations, that a lot of the times those are just Josh own opinion or his clever editing.
Anyway, Josh do seems to attract himself to a lot of drama....
When negative review represents 90%+ of Josh video. There is something disproportionately wrong. The last I check (out of all the airlines that I have ever flown on), I don’t remember the track record being that bad. Also, Josh often claims safety concerns, or rules violations, that a lot of the times those are just Josh own opinion or his clever editing.
Anyway, Josh do seems to attract himself to a lot of drama. And yes some people will find his video entertaining because of that, but his video is far from being fair and balanced. Josh also has a tendency of wanting everything five star even on a low cost or budget operation, a lot of budget operations should really be treated as a bus, so if you expect service from a bus rather than just transport you from A to B, then that’s already the wrong expectation to begin with, that’s often the issue with Josh video. ♂️
He points out serious and valid service issues? And then you talk about him flying Iraqi Airways. You just don't Iraqi Airways / Lao Airlines / Air Angola / other airlines from embargoed countries and then expect QR/SQ/EK/NH type service and aircraft.
Even if it all happened as you describe, some of your comments were demeaning and way over the top. They do not make you look grander. After all you are not exactly a stranger to harsh criticism and debatable situations. Remember Cairo Aiport ? He is the offended party and it is lucky that he didn't challenge you to a duel.
Debate him. That will be interesting.
I've followed Josh for a long time, and of late, I have felt his content has become rather boring, hostile, and, as you had mentioned, he consistently plays the "victim" card. I am a frequent traveler, taking at least two long-haul international trips each month, on a multitude of carriers, and I can say I have never experienced the type of drama that Josh writes of.
I love seeing coverage of lesser known airlines, but every time I watch a Josh Cahill video, I just want to duct tape the mouth of the drama queen. Solution: I know watch his videos on mute; I can see what the airline is like without having to listen to Josh’s hyperbole. If you record with him, have a third party record and edit the content.
Take the high road Ben. Stay positive, don't get dragged down in this stuff
Don’t engage!
Also - terrible English from the assistant. Was a bot writing that?
"Isn't it?" LOL.
One can easily make lies faster than the other side can look up the facts. So this is a battle you cannot win. As the cats in Springfield
Working at Lufthansa Group, I can tell you that this character is currently facing criminal charges for violating DSGVO regulations!
I'm assuming for showing people's faces without permission?
Alhamdulillah. Thank god for that.
If this is true that you're working for Lufthansa group and Josh has criminal investigations. I wouldn't publicize this on a public blog. This is definitely illegal.
Oh @Ben, you need not bother. The pig metaphor summed it all up.
DFTT.
… it‘s exactly what he wants you to do.
Ignore it and anything he does. What he really wants is attention. Look at the way his 'assistant' wrote.
When ultron connected to the internet, he mustve seen 'youtuber' is now a legitimate job and thats why he decided it all had to go.
As Josh (using his PA, as the front but he clearly wrote/authorized the email) is making the allegation of bias, the burden of proof rests with him to establish that fact FIRST, then the burden of proof shifts to you to rebut it. Not the other way around. Perhaps he missed that part of civil procedure in blogger class.
And look at all the clicks you got, Ben. Once again sinking into Gary territory.
If he feels he has evidence that anything you have said is false, he can release it to you. He doesn't need to meet you to do that.
If he wants to have a meaningful and thought provoking discussion he would insist on sending you evidence beforehand for you to review.
If you do meet I would make it a basic requirement to bring your own camera and recorded every interaction from beginning...
If he feels he has evidence that anything you have said is false, he can release it to you. He doesn't need to meet you to do that.
If he wants to have a meaningful and thought provoking discussion he would insist on sending you evidence beforehand for you to review.
If you do meet I would make it a basic requirement to bring your own camera and recorded every interaction from beginning to end.
Frankly the decision to meet him or not might have more to do with the exposure the predictable fireworks will give you and the money that will earn you. The tone of the message you received suggests that what they are looking for. But then again, that might not be a terrible thing if you view it as a promotional opportunity more than a chance to make quality content.
Zero judgement either way from me.
Credibility in life and particularly in journalism is not unlike a bank account. The more credibility you have, the more “credit” people will issue you. You’ve spent nearly two decades making deposits into your credibility account, Ben - Josh has done the opposite. Don’t let him take any of yours away.
Remember the most important blunder: Never go in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line!
Seriously, don't waste your time with this guy.
"Release the OMAAT Files!" omg Ben LMAO
Who's "The dog that hasn't barked"??
I'm calling BS on his PA.
What a great email from his fake PA. I've got $20 saying that person doesn't exist. A PA would never write a message like that.
Easy to simulate with a fake email address.
This is very typical of the guy’s approach to his reviews… claim something outrageous but difficult to fact check then he puts together a “report” based on his bias and posts post online for clicks… best to ignore him, otherwise you become part of his circus.
@TravelinPenis are you incapable of staying on topic? I mean, how does one logically move from Aljoscha Wendhole to a WH press secretary?!?! Or are you one of those tragic losers who can't quit talking about politics in an airline forum. An. Airline. Forum..! Let that sink in.
In the words of Admiral Ackbar: It's a trap!
To add a data point to the conversation - his original name (Aljoscha) is diminutive of an originally endemic Russian name Aleksiej/Alexej. Even his origin story doesn't add up.
Not worth your time.
Do not bother. He is not worth your time..
His "PA" writes like Caroline Leavitt, all insulty, unprofessional, and screamy. Perhaps s/he moonlights for the orange Nazi baboon coming up with stupid sound-bitey sentences peppered with superlatives. Just...ew.
Please don't engage with these people. They've shown their mien, and they come up seriously deficient. Stay away from this bullshit "gauntlet" they're throwing down.
If the PA even exists.
Americans are insufferable, bring politics into everything.
Why are you people like this? To the rest of us, you're all idiots. The funniest is to meet the holier-than-thou Americans here in Europe who think they're juuust like us.
No, you're still engaged in your ridiculolus BS. You still dress like slobs. Your women still run around in completely inappropriate ski underwear (muh Lululemon) on the streets - we don't need to see your cameltoe, thanks.
...Americans are insufferable, bring politics into everything.
Why are you people like this? To the rest of us, you're all idiots. The funniest is to meet the holier-than-thou Americans here in Europe who think they're juuust like us.
No, you're still engaged in your ridiculolus BS. You still dress like slobs. Your women still run around in completely inappropriate ski underwear (muh Lululemon) on the streets - we don't need to see your cameltoe, thanks.
You're still too loud. You still yell over people in restaurants. You're still so unbelievably uncultured.
So kindly. STFU with your politics. You're both a product of the other side. And frankly, the rednecks who don't pretend to be better than everyone else are a LOT less insufferable than people like you.
You're trash.
"Americans are insufferable, bring politics into everything."
You sound triggered. Here, have a tissue.
Never heard of this clown until today, so maybe not worth giving him the extra attention he’s seeking.
Personally, I think it would make good content.
You would, yoloswag420
(I'd agree.)
Perfectly agree!
if the guy wants a conversation, he can use his words and write a post; none of these deceptively-edited video shenanigans.
(even if you sit down with him and record/release the whole thing, he'll still lie about what you said on his channel because it'll get clicks there, and it doesn't bother him in the slightest when he's shown to be a liar elsewhere!)
Don't do it, Ben!! It's a trap.
I always cringe when I hear the words “Multi-Award Winning Aviation Journalist & YouTuber.” Easily click "skip" and onto the next video YT recommends for me ....
I would consider doing it but only if you are allowed to video the session separately.... this may solve him editing the video to make himself look good, knowing you have the full video....
Josh who?
An attention wh0re who drives up more engagement along with his dramatic headlines and thumbnails. I had to block NonStopDan on YouTube for the same reason.
I fully understand that in 2025 you have to be dramatic to get clicks, to show ads, to get revenue - but it's exhausting / nauseating when it's done repeatedly, or to create more drama (OMAAT is defaming me!) that just isn't really there. Ignore and move on...
Release the OMAAT Files!
More seriously, don't take the bait! I don't see any benefit to meeting him, but you could end up regretting it later.
YAASSS! "The dog that hasn't barked"
Don't its a trap. You won't be debating on anything approaching fair terms and they will edit your conversation to suit his narrative just like he edited his interaction with the check-in agents.
Completely agree. If he wants to have a conversation have it on your terms.
You interview him. You control any recordings. He doesn't get to record. He doesn't get copies of your recordings.
He's called you to ask for an opportunity to correct statements you made about him. If you want to give him that opportunity fine but it means you are interviewing him, not the other way around, because he is the subject of...
Completely agree. If he wants to have a conversation have it on your terms.
You interview him. You control any recordings. He doesn't get to record. He doesn't get copies of your recordings.
He's called you to ask for an opportunity to correct statements you made about him. If you want to give him that opportunity fine but it means you are interviewing him, not the other way around, because he is the subject of the article not you. You're the author.
Whether you think of a journalist or not (and I think you are and a very responsible one at that) you wrote and published a piece on a subject and the subject would like to speak with you about what you wrote. No different than when someone from the Times or Post writes one and the subject reaches out to complain.
Treat him the same way they would. Don't let him make you the subject. You're not. He is.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play
How about a nice game of chess?
He’s doing it because he wants to get more publicity for himself at your expense. Do not do the interview. Nothing good will come from it for you… he’s doing it only to benefit himself
Agreed, an attention wh0re to drive up more engagement along with his dramatic headlines and thumbnails. I had to block NonStopDan on YouTube for the same reason.
I fully understand that in 2025 you have to be dramatic to get clicks, to show ads, to get revenue - but it's exhausting / nauseating when it's done repeatedly, or to create more drama (OMAAT is defaming me!) for the sake of it. Ignore and move on...
No need to add oxygen to JC's fire.
If he wants to "interview" you, perhaps it is best that it be done in writing. Based on his previous behavior, a video/audio taped interview is ripe for manipulation. And it sure seems like the quality of his assistant is all you need to know about JC.
But ANY further engagement may result in him doing a review about you.
By nearly getting this post up to 200 comments, you're helping to do just what you advised against. This is 'blowing-up' as they say. Going viral! Ben's practically gotta fight now! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Troll the troll, Ben. You're both already 'winning' from this cross-over faux-conflict.
It's the attention economy, folks; don't blame me; pitchforks go to Zuckerberg, Trump, Musk.
My name is Ben, I’m trolling the troll …. :-)
;-)
I used to watch his stuff on Youtube. Until I watched the video you referred to here:
"And why does Josh outright lie in his videos? For example, when he flew Legend Airlines, he told the crew member he wasn’t recording them and that there is “no record of you” while literally recording them."
I could not BELIEVE he would blatantly lie to the crew about filming them and then NOT so cleverly edit the...
I used to watch his stuff on Youtube. Until I watched the video you referred to here:
"And why does Josh outright lie in his videos? For example, when he flew Legend Airlines, he told the crew member he wasn’t recording them and that there is “no record of you” while literally recording them."
I could not BELIEVE he would blatantly lie to the crew about filming them and then NOT so cleverly edit the bit out of his final video where he is caught telling direct porky pies. "I am not going to film any of the crew, no faces". And then go on to reveal the faces of at least three of the crew,
An absolutely pile of steaming ....
Ben, your time is very precious. Please ignore Josh Cahill.
Like most of the others, I've religiously read your blog each morning since the Boarding Area days and unlike most other blog/vloggers you're pretty much the only one I continue to follow. Him reaching out to you already seems dramatic and I'd avoid that like the plague.
Don't do it, I still do not understand how Josh has been able to make so much money while continuing his annoying schtick...
This has all the makings of an ambush.
First, if he has a history of selectively editing his videos, expect that he would do the same here, and not to your benefit.
Second, he seems to want to "spring" his evidence on you like some cheap TV courtroom drama. In real life, there's a reason both sides are required to disclose their evidence and witness lists ahead of any trial: because the trial...
This has all the makings of an ambush.
First, if he has a history of selectively editing his videos, expect that he would do the same here, and not to your benefit.
Second, he seems to want to "spring" his evidence on you like some cheap TV courtroom drama. In real life, there's a reason both sides are required to disclose their evidence and witness lists ahead of any trial: because the trial is to get at the truth, which you can't do if both sides haven't had time to analyze the evidence and present their side. Doesn't sound like Josh is interested in this.
Third, I imagine that video is not your strong point, especially the type of argumentative, dramatic videos that Josh specializes in. Even if everything goes your way, simply battling him on his turf puts you at a major disadvantage.
Instead of taking the bait, you should do this: send a clear, calm email saying that the "evidence" he is referring to, you've never seen it, so if he'd like a response from you, you'll be happy to provide a written one after reviewing everything he has, with the condition that both of you will publish the response -- unedited -- in both your respective blogs. And in addition, if he disagrees with anything you've stated, he's welcome to write a response which you will post unedited in your blog.
That's the end of it. If he claims you "backed down" from an interview, you can point to this email and tell him the ball is in his court. And if he does meet your conditions, then at least you have a chance of getting your side heard fairly.
Then move on to your next airline review and don't give this guy any more thought :)
PS. If you would rather just troll him back, suggest a "neutral" site that's only served by Qatar :)
Short answer No. Not worth it. Another variation of your pigs proverb is - Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
"I’m sure you have no issue putting your money where your mouth is right?" ... wow, like really... I would recommend not getting involved. They'll likely ambush you in some way, and given they have control of the video edit...
While I'd love to see the outcome, I personally wouldn't do if it I was you. Engaging with an attention whore that's using dirty tricks is not worth your time.
It’s simple, Ben. It’s clear ragebait. The more you write about him (including this article and the previous ones), the more attention and views he gets to his videos. That’s been his business model since the dawn of time (MH, QR, yesterday’s incident amidst many more). Ignore him and if you want to interview someone, there are other humble aviation bloggers in the industry (the likes of Simply Aviation, Flip Flop traveler and Layover Aviation...
It’s simple, Ben. It’s clear ragebait. The more you write about him (including this article and the previous ones), the more attention and views he gets to his videos. That’s been his business model since the dawn of time (MH, QR, yesterday’s incident amidst many more). Ignore him and if you want to interview someone, there are other humble aviation bloggers in the industry (the likes of Simply Aviation, Flip Flop traveler and Layover Aviation who are far more honest and relatable about the product they review). The man thrives on clickbaity videos, controversies and negative PRs. Even if you choose to accept the meeting, he’s going to vaguely lead you on, try to talk over you, and pretend that he is the clear winner in the argument in the response video that he will most likely post (which once again will rack more views and thus more $$$). He’s only using you as an avenue to rack more views.
My name is Ben and I want to meet Josh to chew the cud.
shewt tha shihht
I agree with most comments that there's not much to be gained by such an interview, and that it seems more sensible to invite him to write a guest post here outlining his concerns and any evidence.
Definitely NO, don't feed the pig
Not interested in drama
I agree with the others: don't do it. It's not your style nor should it be your focus. He generates clicks and revenue. You already have your own loyal readers. Use your energy on us.
There is no good that could come from any meeting, it will just get edited and spun like everything else to discredit and disrespect you. It's not like his followers are going to somehow change their minds anyway.
Keep doing your thing and let the public decide who presents the information and stories they want.
I know that some influencers' love for attention/overwrought language encourages malapropisms, but still tickled by the notion that letting someone pay for you to travel to talk to them would be "putting your money where your mouth is.
My name is Bin and I want to Jahill Cash.
You nailed it. As much as I enjoy some of his video’s “conflict is his thing” and he needs content (how many more airlines can he fly?). Plus add in is PA probably wrote that based on a handful of texts vs a conversation with them so parts may have been “lost in translation “ which is all to common these days.
Don’t take the bait! YouTube drama will just get him views and make him money. No need to help him promote his bad practices
Avoid. And don’t give him any more airtime. It’s all he’s after.
Also: I bet Josh is his own assistant.
Ding, ding.
Stay away.
I bet the commenter and his "personal assistant" are all Josh Cahill himself (real name: Aljoscha Wendholt.)
Nothing good will come from any kind of dialogue with him
I rarely comment but I have been reading on and off from your college days (circa 2006?)
There is nothing to gain for you with such “interview”. Like in any debate, the one proposing it is the one who benefits the most, in this case “taking on the lies of the so called leaders of aviation bloggers” (yeah, what do you think an edited video of such a guy is going to be titled?) is...
I rarely comment but I have been reading on and off from your college days (circa 2006?)
There is nothing to gain for you with such “interview”. Like in any debate, the one proposing it is the one who benefits the most, in this case “taking on the lies of the so called leaders of aviation bloggers” (yeah, what do you think an edited video of such a guy is going to be titled?) is going to be designed to make you look bad.
Your trajectory and your reputation speak for themselves.
Any contact will give the guy more clicks and that, as you well know, is his goal. Let the whole issue pass.
Had he been right for the start, he would have shown receipts and emails of the whole situation with the airline
I enjoy watching a number of airline review channels regularly, but Cahill's isn't one of them. His channel is the WWE version of airline reviews.
Had to google him.
All said.
Don't waste your time. I'm not confident that this offer is made in good faith. If you choose to participate, you can expect to be ambushed and browbeaten.
Oh, and thanks for not adopting the "video only" trip report format that so many other bloggers/reviewers have. It's not superior. Mostly it's just them talking to the camera. Your detailed reports with their stills remain the best in the business by a significant margin.
Just don't.
That pig wrestling quote summarizes the situation perfectly. He's a troll with a platform, and there's no way to really have a meaningful conversation the way they set this up.
My only disgust with you is you still won't review the motel 6 in parker, AZ
Bah!
No upside here. If Josh has all this evidence proving his claims, what possible purpose could an "interview" serve? Even framing this as an interview request is odd, as it seeks to clearly establish a power dynamic in which he is in charge and you are there to answer his questions. Honestly, I wouldn't even put it past him to have this as some sort of setup for him to get to you a location...
No upside here. If Josh has all this evidence proving his claims, what possible purpose could an "interview" serve? Even framing this as an interview request is odd, as it seeks to clearly establish a power dynamic in which he is in charge and you are there to answer his questions. Honestly, I wouldn't even put it past him to have this as some sort of setup for him to get to you a location so that he can serve you with papers for some sort of defamation lawsuit and make a video of it.
It would be one thing if he'd sent a professional email inviting you to have a conversation, which you would both be free to share on your respective channels, in which you can share your perspective and he can share his -- but that's not even close to what is being proposed, and I still probably wouldn't believe him if it was.
It's a trap. Don't walk into it.
Invite him to write a rebuttal post that you would publish on your blog (with your responses).
This is really entertaining…
I think you should do the video with him, but make sure you sign a contract to split the revenue from that video!
Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Ben presumably most of your readers fly quite often. What I've seen of this dude there is NOTHING he has ever said that I don't know already, as any other heavy FF, or has any value. Maybe if I plan to fly some fairly obscure airline something he said might help.
Of course drama sells so he creates drama. I've never come close to the level of drama he seems to have when flying. If...
Ben presumably most of your readers fly quite often. What I've seen of this dude there is NOTHING he has ever said that I don't know already, as any other heavy FF, or has any value. Maybe if I plan to fly some fairly obscure airline something he said might help.
Of course drama sells so he creates drama. I've never come close to the level of drama he seems to have when flying. If you board when called, quickly get seated and situated and respect the crew it would be rare if never to have a very negative interaction.
Maybe interview him for the entertainment aspect.
As you correctly stated "never wrestle with a pig, you just get dirty, and the pig enjoys it". My two cents is not to bother. His emails already contain lies
Right. On.
Do not engage with that dramatic queen's nonsense.
Just keep flying & continue your decades long fine writing. The past decade has shown that online controversy generates short term revenue to the entity yelling the loudest. One just needs to look at TMZ to see these tactics in play daily. It appears that Mr. Cahill want to utilize you as a revenue generator. One word of caution bout all of this is to cut down on ‘my plans this month’ posts for awhile...
Just keep flying & continue your decades long fine writing. The past decade has shown that online controversy generates short term revenue to the entity yelling the loudest. One just needs to look at TMZ to see these tactics in play daily. It appears that Mr. Cahill want to utilize you as a revenue generator. One word of caution bout all of this is to cut down on ‘my plans this month’ posts for awhile so that you do not find yourself on the same aircraft as the ‘yeller’. I appreciate all that you do & have done for decades.
There's no real upside to engaging with him, Ben. He's a bit too unhinged and manipulative.
Having worked in communications I would be dubious about this. The smug, patronising tone of that email and the fact that side wants to organise how any shoot would occur is a concern - you'd effectively be ceding control. And while I have never watched any of this guy's stuff, but it seems like a combative situation and if you're going into a filmed interview on their terms I think you'd have to be aware...
Having worked in communications I would be dubious about this. The smug, patronising tone of that email and the fact that side wants to organise how any shoot would occur is a concern - you'd effectively be ceding control. And while I have never watched any of this guy's stuff, but it seems like a combative situation and if you're going into a filmed interview on their terms I think you'd have to be aware it could turn out not in your favour. You'd have to be very confident you could handle that situation and any curve balls that might be swung at you. It would better if somehow it could be done in a more neutral way. For instance, why couldn't this whole encounter be done over some emails back and forth? Sure, that's not exciting but if this person wants to clear things up then why not? Whatever happens, make sure they show you these claimed screenshots etc first so you know what they are referring too. Also, be aware, if you say no they could suggest you're hiding or not willing to defend yourself. That may be the aim of course, to discredit you. But I'd say to this peron, no to an on screen interview but very willing to print any statement you have refuting me.
Putting my Comms hat on too: no!
You don't have control of the narrative or logistics, so hard no there. On top of that, this guy seems a bit unhinged and looking to settle a perceived beef so don't feed into that.
You are not a visual storyteller, so the medium of a video (that he may very well edit) is not favorable to you.
Even a Reddit style discussion is not advised as you'd be stepping into his own mess and fueling more content for him to spin.
Pass!
The most valuable thing to come out of this article is: “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.”
I’m going to remember that the next time I get sucked into some stupid argument with trolls.
Ignore the request!
Ben, this is a trap. You have nothing to gain. This guy is below you and should be ignored.
Ben,
Josh is probably one of the most unethical travel vloggers out there. He panders to a largely uneducated crowd of followers, who buy the clickbait nonsense that he panders for views.
You are the complete opposite, you are someone who has built a business based off of unbiased and very good personal opinions of airlines, hotels, and loyalty programs. You are also a committed husband and father, something Josh will likely never...
Ben,
Josh is probably one of the most unethical travel vloggers out there. He panders to a largely uneducated crowd of followers, who buy the clickbait nonsense that he panders for views.
You are the complete opposite, you are someone who has built a business based off of unbiased and very good personal opinions of airlines, hotels, and loyalty programs. You are also a committed husband and father, something Josh will likely never be. You and Josh are not in the same league, he's punching above his weight-class and I would not engage with him.
With love,
SirKitty
He’s the Trump of vloggers. Rude. Unethical. A narcissist.
He sounds like my sort of sparing partner, as my name is now Ben, I’ll meet him!
I never thought anyone could be more cringe than sam chui, then I saw a josh Cahill video. No reason to engage this dude at all.
I wouldn’t rise to it. Doing so just gives the whole thing more oxygen!
Put this on your bucket list Ben. The bottom of the the bucket list.
Let’s don’t and say we did
Absolutely not. Not worth your time. Continue to focus on what you do best and don't take the bait.
Before any debate, I think Josh's PA needs a raise given how passionately he/she got with the message to you further down the end. If he/she was working for the president, Trump might be ruling the world right now.
I first heard of you in a NY Times article about 15 yrs ago. And I started to follow you on OMAAT soon thereafter. I have seen the evolution of your writing, reviews, commentary and style over these years and can only congratulate you for your maturity. The substance of what you share is valuable and I refer to it often - be it to decide on where to go, where to stay, which airline...
I first heard of you in a NY Times article about 15 yrs ago. And I started to follow you on OMAAT soon thereafter. I have seen the evolution of your writing, reviews, commentary and style over these years and can only congratulate you for your maturity. The substance of what you share is valuable and I refer to it often - be it to decide on where to go, where to stay, which airline to fly etc. Bravo. Keep up the good work. I know a little something about Intl Travel, Loyalty programs etc. as I have been doing it for 40 yrs. Both professionally and personally.
I have seen a few You Tube videos of Josh Cahill and feel his mo-jo is to stir the pot. I am sure some people enjoy it - but I find little value in it.
Leave him alone, ignore the invite and keep doing the good work you do and share your experiences, opinions and commentary with all of us in this forum.
I have just asked Mr DuckDuckGo for the meaning of numpties name Aljoscha …. interesting? …. No! As can be seen below ….
“The name Aljoscha has Russian origins and is a diminutive form of Alexei, meaning "defender of God." It is primarily used as a masculine name and carries strong connotations of nobility and protection”.
No wonder that he is reportedly unhappy with that given name. He is ashamed of it ….
He...
I have just asked Mr DuckDuckGo for the meaning of numpties name Aljoscha …. interesting? …. No! As can be seen below ….
“The name Aljoscha has Russian origins and is a diminutive form of Alexei, meaning "defender of God." It is primarily used as a masculine name and carries strong connotations of nobility and protection”.
No wonder that he is reportedly unhappy with that given name. He is ashamed of it ….
He is ashamed because he is far from masculine.
He is incapable of defending anyone’s God.
Finally, he could never be described as “Nobility”.
No way, I wouldn't touch this.
By "PA of Josh", it is just Josh using a different contact detail right?
Little people like to do that
Just in case all the other comments aren't enough, I'll add one more: do NOT engage. You'd give him exactly what he thrives on, with no upside for you.
Willing to bet good money that Josh’s personal assistant is just him with a made-up name.
Hahaha :)
Ben, we're here for travel advises, reviews, mileage tips, etc. We aren't here for you messing up with a non sense guy. My suggestion would be don't loose your time, but it's really up to you!
Please, do not give him a platform.
No way, this is not worth your time at all, Lucky.
If you do it, though don't think it's a great idea:
(a) If on video, you need cast iron legal agreement. At a minimum it should include that, prior to posting any content publicly, the approval to publish it is your sole and exclusive decision, and it must be given by you in writing. And also a specific (large) $ penalty if he violates that provision.
(b) Counter with no video, and instead...
If you do it, though don't think it's a great idea:
(a) If on video, you need cast iron legal agreement. At a minimum it should include that, prior to posting any content publicly, the approval to publish it is your sole and exclusive decision, and it must be given by you in writing. And also a specific (large) $ penalty if he violates that provision.
(b) Counter with no video, and instead that it will be an interview published on your blog. After all, if he's actually got the facts and is right, then he'd should have absolutely no issue wanting to set the record straight and agreeing to do that on your blog.
I think it would be fun to watch, but of course you shouldn't.
Video isn't your thing, but I'd love to watch an extend debate, interview, analysis, featuring you, about anything related to miles or travelling.
How great skypesos are? Isn't United the best american airline? Cairo is the best airport of the world? Are you a fashion icon? These are some topics to start.
Pretty shrewd move on his part to invite you to help him create a ‘takedown’ video (at your expense of purse) for his channel! You are really naive if you think it will go any other way. Have you not already driven enough traffic to his videos already?
IT’S A TRAP!
Well said.
Agree with all the others saying not to do it. No upside for you. If you still decide to go through with this, you should have in writing from him that he agrees to let you film the whole thing as well. That would be the only way for you to disprove any of his selective editing.
First of all, a Youtuber should not have a personal assistant. Second of all, do not feed into the drama. Ignore him and let him wither on the vine.
Write back and ask "Who the F*CK is Josh Cahill? Never heard of him."
Also, this whackjob "personal assistant" sounds mentally unstable, and is veering closer and closer to actionable threats and libel. This dude needs a lawyer, and his bogus PA needs a rubber room.
Thanks for the grin James.
Ben, I’ve been reading this blog daily since 2010, way back in the boardingarea days, the time of the weekly guess the photo game, and when your go to drink was a Diet Coke and lime before anything else. You are an institution and an inspiration. Josh knows that and is trying to find credibility by attaching himself to you. Don’t stoop to his level. Just be you and forget about the rest.
I had a diet coke and lime at MUC's LH F lounge and I thought "OMG I'm drinking what @Ben drinks!"
There's an old phrase that comes to mind here: Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
In my best general Ackbar voiceover "It's a trap".
You hit the nail on the head several times. His schtick is indeed generating controversy to claim relevance. Yours is to provide an honest and transparent series of reviews and observations from travel. Those things are more in conflict than similar. You know what would happen, because accurate wrote it. He'll drum-up some faux drama based on real or imaginary things to try to get clicks. It's literally what he does. Why would you subject...
You hit the nail on the head several times. His schtick is indeed generating controversy to claim relevance. Yours is to provide an honest and transparent series of reviews and observations from travel. Those things are more in conflict than similar. You know what would happen, because accurate wrote it. He'll drum-up some faux drama based on real or imaginary things to try to get clicks. It's literally what he does. Why would you subject yourself to that.
I've read your stuff for years. You apologize when appropriate and mea culpa when you screw something up. If somehow you are suffering from amnesia on whatever he is chirping about, I'm sure you'll acknowledge it. It doesn't need to a Maury Povich-style "who is the baby daddy" DNA-test confrontation that he's desperately seeking.
You don't have a dog in this fight and you are not the police force of one for travel blogs. Not sure your original post was wise. You are never going to win with this guy. My advice is to not respond at all and avoid any further contact or mention of him. He might decide to get litigious and even if you are "right" it may cost you many thousands to prove it.
Agreed on all points. Ben’s posts on this guy are quite out of character. Why allow yourself to be sucked in by JC.
Who the f is Josh Cahill?
We're with ya, Lucky! Steer clear of this invite.
No. He’s an attention whore and will do anything for it. Do not go down to his level.
I would appreciate listening to a calm, honest and logical discussion between Lucky and Josh on the situation that occured with Josh's Cote d'Ivoire business class ticket. At a minimum, I think many of us with learn something new about airline ticketing and travel in general considering their knowledge and experience in this area. I appreciate the content they both offer and genuinely believe they are passionate about airlines and travel. Let's try not to...
I would appreciate listening to a calm, honest and logical discussion between Lucky and Josh on the situation that occured with Josh's Cote d'Ivoire business class ticket. At a minimum, I think many of us with learn something new about airline ticketing and travel in general considering their knowledge and experience in this area. I appreciate the content they both offer and genuinely believe they are passionate about airlines and travel. Let's try not to be so quick to demonize people and assume the worst.
If you’ve watched any of JC’s videos, the discussion will be anything but calm and logical.
You might be gay, Ben. But Josh Cahill is a true Drama Queen.
This is like when those beauty influencers were having that big spat on YouTube a few years ago. James Charles wasn't it?
Don't do it. There's no upside for you, only risk.
Another big fat no vote from me. This smells like a setup and you have nothing to gain but a lot to lose.
Might I suggest you hold your meeting in Cairo Airport :)
lol
Agree re Cairo Airport debate!
The best thing to do is simply ignore someone of such low magnitude.
The PA sounds just as piggy as Josh does, assuming it's a real person. They're baiting you, it's not worth it.
Never heard of this guy, but it seems to me he's not trading on good faith, so I wouldn't bother. Sounds like a bad faith ambush with selective or made up stuff. Even the invitation email is poor form.
First of all, just by the tone of the email I wouldn’t even consider it. He is already attacking you and it’s not even on camera yet. If you want an interview be at least respectful and transparent in the invitation. And second of all, I don’t get what’s in it for you? You have nothing to gain from it. It wouldn’t Help your blog. I wouldn’t bother, especially if they are already lying about you refusing his interview. You might as well refuse it for real
Don't feed the animals. This shmuck just wants attention and you're giving it to him.
Not only would I not engage with him, I would stop watching his videos, writing about him and giving him more publicity.
Don't.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the “PA” was just Josh writing himself. Regardless, not worth humoring him and giving him exactly what he wants.
Exactly. Not worth wasting time on that clown.
Is he going to invite everyone in the comments section ?
Don’t feed the trolls.
If you give an inch…
If you give a mouse a cookie…
I think all of these apply. Drop it and let the guy make a fool of himself on his own behalf.
Don't feed the trolls. First rule of the Internet.
I don't think you should entertain it unless you can also ask him those questions you've mentioned, and most importantly that you can also film the entire interaction so if he tries to edit it to make himself look better (which he will), you'll have the receipts.
First of all, I am not sure if this is a real PA or that crackpot Josh himself masquerading as a PA. Moreover, please have the upper hand and be a sensible person, and do not engage with him or continue the conversation.
I came here to say the same thing. Ben, are you sure that email sender is actually who they claim to be? It could just be one of your viewers looking for some giggles with a prank. That email may not even be associated with Josh Cahill. The language and tone in that email makes me think it is likely a prank, unless you have verified that the sender is in fact who they claim to be. Regardless, I agree with the others here, no need to do an in-person interview.
I’ll counter and say you should invite him to talk. But tell him only if he flies Delta to the meeting. Then, invite Tim Dunn to the debate instead. Or make him fly United and have UA-NYC be the surprise guest. Just make sure the overall airline hater gets a perfect complement debate partner!
This would be good. Schedule like a full day debate at some small, random airport you can only reach on a CRJ200 or E145. That way you both arrive rested and having traveled in comfort. Sorry Ben.
You already fell for the trap and posted his outrage. Ignore the bully
Neither of you come close to being journalists. Although many write ups you have published in recent times are very tabloid. You should be making up your own mind if you will meet with him. Don't go hiding behind what followers suggest.
He is a total, whiny voiced narcissistic condescending racist twat who loves drama and attention. I don’t read your blog for drama so don’t talk to him.
Agree with all the others here Ben - don't go on camera with this tool. Nothing good comes out of engaging with negativity and fake drama.
Daniel, I must strongly object to you accusing Josh Cahill of being a “Tool” …. a tool is useful, however, it is beyond one’s imagination to believe that JC could ever be considered to be as useful …. :-)
Your work is much too high quality to engage with someone like him. Don’t give him the time of day and diminish your brand, especially because he’ll probably cut it to give himself the upper hand. It would also expose you to a new audience — but you want to do that on your own terms, not those of a ‘pig.’
Looking at the numbers, Josh reaches over 10 million viewers each month on YT and Facebook… you are nowhere near him and your blog is slowly dying… are you perhaps jealous of his success and that you don’t get the attention you want? Go debate him, you had a big mouth, now it’s time to prove it!
Hey Ben, I found Josh's alt
@ X XY -- Lol, he is a user who only comments when it's about Josh...
Yes I’m one of his subscribers, so I might be biased! Just as biased as you!
Aljoscha Wendholt, his real name, is a narcissist and always looking for trouble. As if he has a PA lol.
Why are you so obsessed with his name? Literally everyone in the industry has a stage name. You seem very narcissistic yourself
"Literally everyone"? So what is Ben Schlappig's real name?
‘enry, my name is Ben, but I’m not as biased as you …. ‘onest, numpt’.
Absolutely not. Do not engage. This is textbook engagement/rage bait. He totally will make up some crap and selectively edit the video to make you look bad. There is ZERO upside for you.
Just ignore the stupid email and do not even reply to it.
I find it comical he has a “personal assistant”.
The best course of action here is to ignore the whole thing and not getting involved.
His “personal assistant” is probably as real as “John Barron”. ;)
Hard pass. Don't feed the troll.
I'm pretty sure your video short of the La Compagnie Emergency Exit Light is more entertaining than anything Mr. Cahill has published on his channel. No need to do the sham "interview" - the amazing community that you have built could not care less.
No. When the supposed invitation starts with a lie - that you’d declined an interview - and is then followed up with a real invitation from a PA - not Josh - and contains misstatements and allegations that you’re engaged in a smear campaign, you should stay away. Your medium is blogging, not video. Don’t have a confrontation using his medium.
PA is obviously some 20-something who thinks YouTube & TikTok videos of influencers is how people actually talk in real life (jeez that email is cringe). Combine that with the usual level of incompetence in that group of people, and they're mixing you up with someone else.
Don’t engage; there is nothing to be gained here. It’s already quite clear from the tone of the PA’s email that they have an antagonistic approach to you and your coverage. Take the high road and politely decline.
Josh Cahill can afford a PA!? I guess this Youtube gig is pretty lucrative.
My guess is, he wrote the message himself posing as his (probably nonexistent) PA. Sounds just like what he would write.
Ben...do not engage, at all. Whatever you do, the video will be edited in such a way as to not be favorable to you. He will yell and scream as he tends to, and that doesn't really seem like your game.
I would encourage you however to borrow a page from Matthew at Live and Let's fly and start referring to Josh by his given name, Aljoscha Wendholt....its hillarious to me that he refuses to even use it.
Do not feed the troll, Ben! You're better than this.
Keep it classy and don’t feed the troll. We follow your blog because it is high quality. It used to even higher quality before you decided to post articles that are purely for engagement. Don’t go lower and engage Josh.
Keep it classy and don’t feed the troll. We follow your blog because it is high quality. It used to even higher quality before you decided to post articles that are purely for engagement. Don’t go lower and engage Josh.
I didn't even finish reading to the bottom. Agree with the majority here. The motto for these people is no publicity is bad publicity. Don't feed it.
I don't want to see said discussion. Agreed that the only person such engagement would benefit is this Josh Cahill, whoever he is.
No matter what you said, he'd cut it so you sounded terrible. Smells like a YouTube trap.
I strongly dislike the idea of you giving him any more engagement, or the ability for him to clip the interview in an unfavorable light. Him and his staff are obviously beneath you. Don’t stoop.
Just stop platforming him, Ben. Not worth your time. Remember, you owe us a lot of trip reviews ;) There are other clickbait-y articles you can write that will drive traffic to your site and pay your bills.
Ignore him. I've never heard of him and it doesn't sound like I'm missing anything. So many good and positive vloggers out there...Flip Flop Traveler, Luxury Travel Expert...etc. Don't give him the platform. You've got better things to do.
Ironically, it'd actually give Ben more of a platform; top YouTubers get more eyes, ad-revenue, etc. Even a fake-fight/debate is probably better for both of them; maybe not for you or me or old-time followers of this site, but for 'growth' and 'attention,' this is gold. 'Fight! Fight! Fight!'
Get a life. Ben don't need this to survive.
Flip Flop Traveler declares himself as Honest. Well, why do decalre it when it should be the obvious thing for any blogger or vlogger? Mocking Capella Bangkok breakfast as "mostly edible"? Would like to see his comments about his domestic US hotels breakfast, but he does not make those.
Luxury Travel Expert is enthusiast, not an expert. Yet, he claims to be an expert by naming his vlog. That self entitlement is disgusting, Making...
Flip Flop Traveler declares himself as Honest. Well, why do decalre it when it should be the obvious thing for any blogger or vlogger? Mocking Capella Bangkok breakfast as "mostly edible"? Would like to see his comments about his domestic US hotels breakfast, but he does not make those.
Luxury Travel Expert is enthusiast, not an expert. Yet, he claims to be an expert by naming his vlog. That self entitlement is disgusting, Making videos, although currently the best on YouTube does not make anyone expert. The only experts are advisors/agents with annually six-seven digits sales of the luxury travel products to others and having widest knowledge about the brand, the product and the benefits. Which he certanly does not by visiting day or two in luxury resorts just because he can afford it.
The Luxury Traveller is the only blogger who is the real luxury travel expert. He sells the product, he visits the luxury hotels&resorts, he has the most detailed reviews of the product that any other blogger. P.S I do not know him personally nor used his advisory services. I do have other travel advisor for that, due to the simplicity.
Ben,
Do not engage with him further. His "game" is to keep the game alive. Responding to him in any shape or form only serves to further his game. As tempting as it may be the bottom line is you have nothing to gain, and a lot to lose, by engaging with him.
Right. Do not engage. It would just begin a long, and painful, process.
Never did this quote apply more:
“Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.”
Well said.
Never did this quote apply more:
“And you still make money from idiots who tells you not to do it but still pays you to wrestle a pig"
HARD NO to engaging. His sole purpose is to create conflict for his content, not to resolve any conflict he has with you. Be the bigger person and just walk. Engaging with this low life will bring you down too.
Naw, this'll bring more eyeballs to both of them; conflict, outrage, etc. sells ads.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Or, troll the trolls.
STOP doing your pathetic "bla-bla-bla".
GO and debate!
Why Nico?
Why not, AeroB13a?
Both of them are just the "money suckers". Both are totally fake "av geeks". One with his 21+ credit cards "comedy", another one with his perpetual YouTube "dramas"....
A real Balzac's "Human Comedy".
Show must go one!
But Nicolas, my name is Ben, would you like me to go?
Definitely YES!
Even if you certainly don't really care to hear that: you are as "av geek" as I am the Bolshoi ballerina.
So, take a challenge and debate.
I even don't know your challenger, but I would be quite interested to know the REAL YOU a bit more.
Common, don't be afraid. Take your dog with you in case of...
P.-S.: The best OMAAT articles have been created by a vonderful Lady - contributor. She is a genuinely amazing! Sorry, don't remember her name...
So much of your very own "bla-bla-bla" Nic, thank you Josh.
Why don't you stop being a POS?
Stop sucking Josh's dick, Nicolas.
Ohh, such a OMAAT readers' style response.
All about dicks...
Then, whose dick sucking OMAAT' sreaders?
Just thank him for the invitation and invite him to send his list of questions to your solicitor.
Afterthought, perhaps you might like to publish the email address of his “PA”, I’m sure that many would like to share their views of Master Josh.
Noticing a pattern isn't a smear campaign. You have nothing to gain by engaging.
It's all hype though; this faux-conflict; attention economy.
Hard pass