Emirates Bans First Class Passenger For Legitimate Credit Card Dispute

If something goes wrong with an airline ticket, a credit card dispute is often your last line of defense, when airline customer service otherwise breaks down. So here’s an interesting example of that, where a passenger filed a credit card dispute with Emirates, only to later be banned from the airline, and told that he was on the hook for the amount disputed.

Emirates cancels flight, refuses to refund ticket

A new FlyerTalk member shares a situation that he’s currently dealing with involving Emirates. Last year, he was scheduled to fly Emirates first class roundtrip from Birmingham (BHX) to Dubai (DXB) to Tokyo (HND) and back, as part of a guided tour of Japan.

He took Emirates’ chauffeur service to Birmingham Airport and went to the check-in counter, only for the airline to announce at that point that the flight was canceled, and advise passengers to contact the airline to rebook. The airline even arranged a taxi for him to go back home.

It’s worth noting that this happened during Dubai’s major floods in April 2024, which destroyed Emirates operations for several days. However, he couldn’t get through to the airline by phone, web chat, etc., presumably due to the volume of people trying to rebook.

Without any rebooking options on Emirates, he decided to book an alternative one-way itinerary on Air France, in hopes that Emirates would refund him for the outbound journey. Eight days later, he was finally able to get in touch with Emirates, and the agent explained that they would reissue the return ticket so that it’s still valid, in light of circumstances. The agent advised him to fill out a refund request form after he returned home, to get a refund for the outbound portion.

Upon returning back home, he filled out the refund request form with Emirates. After a few days, he received a notice that his refund request had been rejected. Long story short, he sent multiple more emails to the airline, but had no luck, as the airline insisted he utilized all sectors of the ticket.

Eventually he wrote that he’d give the airline 21 days to solve this problem, and if he didn’t hear from them, he’d initiate a chargeback through his bank. So that’s what he did. During the dispute, the airline tried to challenge the chargeback, claiming the ticket was fully utilized, which obviously wasn’t the case. The card issuer sided with the traveler, so he got his appropriate refund of around £4,000 (based on the cost of the outbound portion of travel).

Fast forward nearly a year, and the traveler received an email demanding that he pay the amount disputed, or else he’s banned from the airline going forward:

In connection with your ticket XYZ, under booking reference XYZ, we have received a dispute through your bank and the same was also received through our acquirer World Pay. Having reviewed the ticket history, I noted that it was reissued and utilised.

You are required to settle the payment for your ticket in order to enable your travel with us in the future. In such cases, recovery is made only in cash. Please contact our contact centre or the nearest office in order to resolve the issue due to high order value and utilisation of service.

He responded, but heard back nothing. Obviously he’s concerned, not only about being banned from Emirates, but possibly being on some watch list if he enters the UAE, and being accused of fraud, or something.

Emirates canceled the traveler’s flight due to Dubai floods

This is a situation where airline customer service fails

This traveler did absolutely nothing wrong. Emirates canceled his flight due to a natural disaster, and it’s no surprise that he couldn’t get through to an Emirates representative for days. So he (smartly) booked a ticket on another airline. In these situations, airlines absolutely should be willing to refund a portion of the ticket, to reflect the part that wasn’t consumed.

I suspect what’s going on here is pretty straightforward oversight that no one is actually empowered to fix — the ticket was reissued, so when the refund department saw that both of the segments on the reissued ticket were used, they assumed that the ticket had been fully consumed, and this guy was trying to scam the airline, or something. After all, airlines get tons of refund requests, and a lot of them aren’t legitimate.

This is one of the situations where consumers lack the ability to get in touch with a human who is actually empowered to apply logic and fix a situation. Honestly, I don’t know what exactly I would do in this situation, because I don’t think any frontline employee will actually apply enough logic to actually fix this.

Maybe try to file a complaint with UK regulators, in hopes that it gets the attention of a more senior person at Emirates? Or start Googling email addresses of more senior Emirates executives, and send them an email with the subject line “first class passenger accidentally banned from Emirates,” or something? I hate recommending that last idea, since it just clutters up inboxes, but what are the alternatives?

This situation really shouldn’t be that complicated

Bottom line

Emirates has banned a first class passenger, after the airline canceled a flight during last April’s storms, with no ways to get in touch with a customer service representative for days. So he booked a separate outbound ticket, and the return was reissued, and he was told to fill out a form to get a refund.

However, the computer rejected the refund request, presumably due to how the ticket was reissued. Therefore he was left with no choice but to file a credit card dispute, which worked out in his favor. Well, at least that was the case initially, as now the airline is coming after him for the remaining ticket amount, and has banned him until he pays.

What do you make of Emirates banning this first class passenger?

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Jens-Peter Eckervogt Guest

What do I understand? Are you talking about Middle Ages verbs? I really don't understand why do you say always with "ban" or "banned"? You mean "forbid" or "forbidden". Does it mean fraudulent of tickets, correctly? Please stop annoying me about Middle Ages language! My head breaks off if I don't understand common English verb. Thank you and regarding from Germany.

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Altaf Hashwani Guest

Here is what we went through with Emirates and post this incident I have Stopped flying with them. To whom it may concern I am writing to register a complaint of a very serious nature with reference to booking number ECPW66. My daughters aged 9 and 12 were scheduled to travel as unaccompanied minors from Karachi to Singapore via Dubai on July 14. When making arrangements for them to travel unaccompanied, I was assured by Emirates staff at the Karachi ticketing office that a female staff member will be assigned to my daughters and will be with them from the time they arrive at the airport till they are taken through to the aircraft where the crew will take charge. Upon arrival at Karachi airport, we were informed by a gentleman (Iqbal) from DNATA/Gerry’s that no female staff is available to escort the girls. Coincidentally, as their maternal grandparents were also booked on the same flight, I did not hesitate to hand the children to his custody. Shortly after, I received a call from my 12-year-old daughter, Emaan Hashwani, saying that she is not being allowed to board and a PCR test is being requested. As per the rules of the Singapore government and Emirates travel guidelines, there is no testing, vaccination or quarantine requirements for children born in the year 2010 or after. It transpired that Emirates check-in staff took it upon themselves to ask for this additional requirement because they misinterpreted the vaccination rules – while Emaan by virtue of her age does not require vaccination to enter Singapore, she is recently vaccinated; she received her first dose of Pfizer shortly after her 12th birthday on June 13 and her second dose on July 13. Emirates ground staff insisted that a “new rule” had been issued on July 1, 2022 which is not visible on any traveler-facing site about a 14 day gap required post-vaccination before travel is allowed. They were asking for a negative PCR test as a “solution” to a rule that doesn’t exist and/or was being grossly misinterpreted. My younger daughter was free to board, but they were adamant that Emaan did not meet the criteria so at best they would send word to Dubai (Covid Compliance Centre) and Singapore. Distressingly, Emirates staff, a Mr Anthony DeGama on the ground at the time, did not have the decency to speak to me about any of this. He flatly refused to communicate with me. My father-in-law checking in himself at the counter attempted to argue the case with evidence from both the Singapore government and Emirates website. He was rudely dismissed and was told that he could also be offloaded. Emirates staff assumed that my father-in-law was the children’s guardian - I trust him implicitly but as the children’s unaccompanied travel was booked and paid for before their grandparents also booked on the same flight, there was no need to appoint my father-in-law as their guardian for the flight. On this basis, they refused to speak to me. This is unacceptable on so many levels. My children were entrusted to Emirates (not DNATA or for purposes of the flight to their grandparents), indeed we paid extra for them to travel as unaccompanied minors, and no one from Emirates felt it necessary to communicate with me. They treated my children and father-in-law disrespectfully, refusing to listen to reason and claiming to adhere to rules that do not exist. While we waited on word from Dubai, I called the Emirates call center in Dubai directly. I spoke to a very helpful representative, Shamim, who informed me that children under 13 do not need to be vaccinated and there is no PCR requirement. The DNATA agent brought my daughters out of the airport around this time. Apparently, Covid Compliance in Dubai had reverted with a decision that Emaan could not board the flight. Shamim was on the phone with me and I requested the DNATA agent to take my phone and children back in to the check-in counter so that Emirates staff could speak to each other directly to resolve this issue. The line was disconnected by the Karachi staff and once again, my children were brought out by the DNATA agent with the information that Emaan is still not permitted to board. I called the Dubai call center again and was connected to another agent named Jorge who also confirmed that the kids should have been allowed to board as there is no restriction on their travel from Karachi to Singapore. Once again I requested the DNATA agent (the only person in this entire ordeal who at least attempted to facilitate) to get someone from Emirates to talk to me or the agents in Dubai to resolve this issue. Again, I was dismissed by the Emirates airport staff who were too busy to speak to me till after departure of the flight. At this point, I made a third call to check for next available seats and was informed by the agent that while there is nothing available till August 5, there was no reason for the staff at the airport to prevent Emaan from boarding her scheduled flight. Finally after the flight has left without my children, a Mr Kamran Kaiser and his staff including Mr DeGama came outside to speak with me – I was informed that this was the manager and his staff (as it turns out, both were check-in staff and neither was the manager as per the information shared with me subsequently by the Karachi city office). They continued to argue their position and their misinterpretation of the rules, said that the final decision was made by Covid Compliance so the matter was out of their hands or else they would be fined. After a lengthy discussion, including one where Mr DeGama spoke to Emirates staff in Dubai on my phone, they still did not admit their mistake, told us that the Dubai call centre staff was issuing misinformation, but now said they would do us a “favour” by emailing Singapore for approval to override Covid Compliance. They offered to book the children on the next flight to Dubai and when I mentioned that no onward seats were available for the DXB – SIN sector, they said they will “manage something”. We came home after a 4 hour ordeal only to wait till 1:30 am for the same DNATA staff to call me with apologies that no response had been received from Singapore and the issue should be taken up at the city ticketing office the next day. Meanwhile, my father-in-law on arrival in Dubai approached the Business class lounge counter where the staff shared the actual rules with him (not what Karachi staff was manufacturing) and commiserated about the fact that Emaan was offloaded for no valid reason. She encouraged him to lodge a complaint. My brother-in-law in Singapore went to the Emirates city office first thing on July 15; the staff there was extremely helpful and apologetic. She not only confirmed in the system, but also with Singapore Immigration that Emaan was eligible to travel and that she wrongly offloaded in Karachi. At the same time, I went to the Karachi office where no one was willing to take responsibility or accept fault – despite everything shared by Emirates Dubai and Singapore and in the face of all evidence from Singapore government and Emirates website itself, they still believed that they were correct. May I suggest very seriously at this stage with no intended disparagement of my countrymen that Emirates consider investing in English lessons for its staff? If they had just read the rules and understood them, this issue would not have arisen. I can only assume that this is either because they do not understand simple English or that they willfully offloaded my children to accommodate other passengers. If it is the latter, I am sure you will wish to look into such unethical practices. Instead of being facilitated to now resolve the issue, I was told by the Karachi city office staff that there are no seats available and that I would have to pay cancellation charges for the flight from which my children were offloaded. When I shared the commitment made by the Emirates airport staff to communicate with Singapore and book flights, I was informed flippantly that in that case I could ask the airport staff directly to do what they can. For the next hour or so, Karachi office went about trying to find the email address for the Singapore office. Allow me to make another suggestion here - the Karachi Emirates staff needs lessons on how to contact other Emirates staff. I am sure there is a phone and email directory, but city office cannot call the airport office and expects the passenger to do so, the airport staff do not have the ability or common sense to speak to Dubai staff and everyone is clueless about how to get in touch with their colleagues in Singapore or Dubai on email. Of note, the Singapore office never received any email that was promised by Mr Kamran – either he doesn’t know how to send emails or he lied to a passenger – I don’t know which is worse. While no one in Karachi made any attempt to help resolve the situation, the fantastic Singapore office staff went out of her way to make arrangements and contact those required. She managed to rebook the children on the next flight. In fact, the Karachi office was shocked to see communication coming in from Singapore. In addition to not knowing how emails work, Karachi Emirates staff don’t know the travel guidelines, how to book flights or facilitate passengers. What purpose do they serve? If it helps with your operations, they do know to never accept responsibility and instead find someone else to blame, including their own colleagues in other cities. The matter did not end here. Once seats were booked, the Karachi office still did not want to take responsibility and insisted that my brother-in-law go back to the office in Singapore to request them to put into the system that the children are OK to board and that no vaccine or PCR test is required for passengers under 13. Again, Karachi office’s work was done by someone else. The manager in the Karachi city office was not available due to illness through all this, but he did have the decency to call me later and admitted that the entire episode was mismanaged. Please consider this an official complaint to which I expect a prompt response. My wife and I have been a loyal Emirates Skywards passenger for decades. We returned just last week along with our daughters on Emirates from Africa. We are scheduled to travel to France on Emirates in August, and to Rome next year. In light of what has happened, we will now be turning with immediate effect to Qatar and other airlines with better customer service. At this point, I would also like to share that I literally spent hours on hold on the phone while in Africa to speak to an Emirates representative for a matter related to another flight for one of our household staff. The level that Emirates has fallen to, Covid notwithstanding because all airlines have been impacted by that, is very disappointing. Not only am I am filing this official complaint, but I have every intention to share this episode with all my friends, family, colleagues and acquaintances. Most are Emirates customers and many have had other bad experiences with Emirates. These are the straws that break the camel’s back and you can be rest assured that we are now all turning to other carriers. There are other options. I will be posting this episode on social media and reserve the right to take legal action against Emirates particularly for the fact that in a case involving unaccompanied girls entrusted to Emirates for a night flight, no female escort was available and no airline staff saw fit to speak directly to their legal guardian. The incompetence of the Karachi Emirates staff has caused my entire family mental torture, anguish, disappointment and the cost of umpteen calls to Dubai and trips to the Singapore office. I look forward to your immediate investigation and subsequent response. Thank you

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Kim Colefax Guest

Obviously absurd nonsense by Emirates. Burocracy can be so frustrating. Good luck to the brave customer.

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Sonny Pornasdoro Guest

Customer is not always right... But in this case, emirates is absolutely wrong.

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Nick Guest

Fly Better...NOT

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