A few weeks ago, American Airlines began a phased rollout of free inflight connectivity, which is a very exciting development for the airline. I know many travelers have been frustrated since launch, since the rollout has been gradual. Fortunately there’s some great news, as it’s my understanding that the rollout is now complete (at least for most aircraft types), so let’s cover all the details.
In this post:
American now offers free Wi-Fi for AAdvantage members
American Airlines now offers free inflight Wi-Fi on most flights, sponsored by AT&T. Free Wi-Fi is available exclusively for members of the carrier’s AAdvantage program — you don’t actually have to credit your flight to the AAdvantage program, but instead, you just need to have an account that you can log into.
The airline highlights how it offers free high speed inflight connectivity on more planes than any other airline in the world.
Free Wi-Fi is now available on all narrow body mainline and regional aircraft that have Viasat and Intelsat connectivity. This includes Airbus A319/320/321s, Boeing 737s, Bombardier CRJ 700/900s, and Embraer E170/175s. In the coming weeks, the airline should also finalize rolling out free Wi-Fi on wide body aircraft with the Viasat system, which includes newly delivered Boeing 787-9s, and a limited number of the newer Boeing 787-8s.
The airline states that it’s working toward offering free Wi-Fi on 100% of its fleet, including Panasonic equipped aircraft, but there’s no timeline yet for that happening.
Here’s how Heather Garboden, American’s Chief Customer Officer, describes this development:
“As American celebrates 100 years of delivering industry firsts, including the first loyalty program and first airport lounge, we’re setting the standard for connectivity in the skies. Free high-speed Wi-Fi isn’t just a perk — it’s essential for today’s travelers. That’s why we’re proud to begin rolling out this new offering, sponsored by AT&T, across the majority of our fleet. Once roll out is completed, every AAdvantage member can stay connected, stream and share almost anywhere their journey takes them for free.”
What an exciting development for American passengers!
In recent years, American has really lost its edge when it comes to inflight connectivity, so I’d consider this to be a hugely positive development. Let me provide some background…
Going back several years, American was the best of the “big three” airlines when it came to inflight Wi-Fi. The airline had Viasat Wi-Fi on the most jets, meaning that passengers had access to fast Wi-Fi. Delta and United also charged for Wi-Fi, but had considerably worse systems for inflight connectivity. Over time, the situation changed:
- Delta is in the process of rolling out free Wi-Fi throughout its fleet, made possible by the widespread installation of Viasat Wi-Fi
- United is in the process of rolling out free Starlink Wi-Fi throughout its fleet, which will eventually make United the best of the “big three” US carriers on this front, though it’ll be some time before rollout is complete
Up until recently, Delta beat American, since it also offered fast Wi-Fi, but it was free. With this change, American has more planes than Delta with free Wi-Fi, so that’s pretty exciting. Meanwhile United is going to beat American and Delta once it has Starlink on a widespread basis, but near full rollout is only expected in very late 2027.
When it comes to American, the issue wasn’t just that the airline charged for Wi-Fi, but also how much the airline was charging. For example, Alaska, Southwest, and United, have all historically charged $8 per segment for Wi-Fi, while American’s pricing was all over the place, and sometimes cost $20+ per segment.
American didn’t even offer free inflight messaging, aside from the T-Mobile partnership. That’s wild because:
- It’s something that even United offers at this point, with its inferior connectivity system
- American promised several years back that it would introduce free inflight messaging, but then backtracked
Going back to early 2025, American CEO Robert Isom went on record as saying that the airline had no plans to introduce free Wi-Fi. Clearly over the past year, we’ve finally seen management change its strategy.
American has been greatly lagging both Delta and United when it comes to profitability. For so long, the airline thought it didn’t really need to compete with those airlines on product, but rather, that it could be profitable through its (primarily domestic) network.
That whole strategy just didn’t materialize, and there are some major changes at the airline, whereby management realizes the company needs to become more competitive, and focus on the passenger experience.
Look, I don’t think we’re suddenly going to see American retrofit narrow body planes with TVs, or massively improve the soft product, but I think the airline will no longer cut corners in areas where it’s so glaringly obvious that the airline needs to compete. With both Delta and United pledging to offer free Wi-Fi, it has been clear that American needed to do this as well, which is why we’re seeing this change.
Bottom line
American has now rolled out free inflight Wi-Fi, a process that has been taking place over the last few weeks. This should now be available on all narrow body mainline aircraft and regional jets with Viasat and Intelsat connectivity, and should also soon be available on select wide body aircraft.
Competitively, American needed to do this, so I’m happy to see the company has actually followed through on this. As someone who has been subscribed to a monthly Wi-Fi pass, this saves me hundreds of dollars per year.
What do you make of American introducing free Wi-Fi?
Tom "DoubleDunce" "Micro D" Deuce (AKA Tim Delta) is VERY ANGRY!!!
nope.
He is just asking for evidence to support Max's assertion that DL has no plans to put free high speed WiFi on its 717s.
When people make statements, they have to be backed up.
the whole name argument is a charade compared to the statements about any part of any airline's WiFi plan
Max has spent months trying to discredit DL's WiFi plan and progress. It isn't about DL. It is about the credibility of Max.
In fact, he is nothing but a Max hypocrite and liar.
Wow
First you can’t even tell us if tim Dunn is your real name lol
Now I’m just living in your head rent free, tim. You should really ask yourself why a complete stranger that corrects your delta nonsense when you lie bothers you so much
Perhaps lie less?
I’ve replied to your comment about Hughes about five times now. Try reading what I write vs what you wish I wrote. It’ll...
Wow
First you can’t even tell us if tim Dunn is your real name lol
Now I’m just living in your head rent free, tim. You should really ask yourself why a complete stranger that corrects your delta nonsense when you lie bothers you so much
Perhaps lie less?
I’ve replied to your comment about Hughes about five times now. Try reading what I write vs what you wish I wrote. It’ll make you look less stupid.
I’m sure delta’s customers will be curious to see if the Hughes plan finally results in delta being the last of the US3 to use gogo on mainline ;) because… delta is the last of the US3 to use gogo on mainline planes.
What a testament to their advanced with strategy
@rod
It’s the tim Dunn dead giveaway
When he can’t win an argument (or can’t mentally process that I’ve replied directly to his “demanded questions” lol), he gets angry and just resorts to name calling
It’s honestly just amusing that he cares so much when proven wrong so much
I can’t imagine feeling this way about an airline that fired me but… tim Dunn (nom de plume, of course) everyone!
simpleton,
you are fixated on usernames so you don't have to deal w/ the lies you have posted.
Tell us the source you have for your assertion
you can't because the root is that you can't accept that DL was ahead of the game and AA and UA cannot catch up.
But you can't admit it so you attack the single person that is willing to go to war with you - the liar and hypocrite that populates social media.
Game on.
You will ALWAYS lose and I will rub your nose it.
lol
Wow
You’ve been drinking extra tonight!
“ You will ALWAYS lose and I will rub your nose it.”
I think anyone that reads what you write knows who the loser is in this stupidity lol
I guess we’ll go ahead and establish that tim Dunn is not your real name per about 15 replies by you of being unable to answer. What’s funny is how much you’ve tried to twist your...
lol
Wow
You’ve been drinking extra tonight!
“ You will ALWAYS lose and I will rub your nose it.”
I think anyone that reads what you write knows who the loser is in this stupidity lol
I guess we’ll go ahead and establish that tim Dunn is not your real name per about 15 replies by you of being unable to answer. What’s funny is how much you’ve tried to twist your answer
“ you can't because the root is that you can't accept that DL was ahead of the game and AA and UA cannot catch up.”
What a weird way to live a life when AA now has more planes with free WiFi than delta and has high global high speed WiFi for years now —- again something delta still can’t say
United is about to lap AA and Delta with starlink
I’m fascinated by your little brain and how everything is so black and white, winners and losers
You’re definitely on the spectrum
Mostly complete? Really? I took 4 flights on AA the last 10 days and only 1 had free wifi. Not sure what you are talking about here.
doesn't sound much like "mostly"
Big announcements, poor reality.
Flew FRA CLT LAX LIH with AA on Jan 19/20, with only paid WiFi or nothing.
of course, neither Ben or Max or any other low lives have any idea what is really going on in real life.
Wigand mentions travel from 5-6 days ago
Keep up, Timmy
Today is the 25th and Ben’s article is stamped with the same date.
Are you really this dumb that you can’t tell a date?
Also
Why do you spend so much time on Ben’s site if you consider him a low life?
And why do I live rent free in your brain and have such a unique ability to get you furious if I’m such a low life?
You really should step back from these evil influences in your life
I think I can speak for most commenters here when I say no one will miss your crazy if you leave Ben and his “low life” site alone
the low life comment refers to you, not Ben.
I do keep EVERYONE honest.
There is no planet on which AA is in the leadership position with high speed WiFi when it doesn't have it on ANY international long haul aircraft.
You have made it abundantly clear here and elsewhere that all you really want is for me to not be able to speak on aviation social media - so you can spew your lies...
the low life comment refers to you, not Ben.
I do keep EVERYONE honest.
There is no planet on which AA is in the leadership position with high speed WiFi when it doesn't have it on ANY international long haul aircraft.
You have made it abundantly clear here and elsewhere that all you really want is for me to not be able to speak on aviation social media - so you can spew your lies and not be faced w/ the truth.
Once again, relevant to this topic, DL will have fleet wide global WiFi long before AA and UA will.
I guarantee it.
And if would have the maturity to wait until one of AA, DL and UA gets to 100% global coverage instead of incessantly trying to find flaws w/ DL's strategy when AA and UA are nowhere close, you would see that.
But you can't wait so you find flaws w/ DL's strategy because you are incapable of admitting that DL leads something.
This isn't about DL. It is about you, a pathologically wounded loser that bet on the wrong team
Tim after waking up: "the low life comment refers to you, not Ben."
Tim after a few drinks: "neither Ben or Max or any other low lives"
If you're going to drink, have the courtesy to apologize when you make an idiot of yourself.
The rest of your spiel... you can and do talk and you never shut up. But you're also the one that has been banned from speaking because of your inability...
Tim after waking up: "the low life comment refers to you, not Ben."
Tim after a few drinks: "neither Ben or Max or any other low lives"
If you're going to drink, have the courtesy to apologize when you make an idiot of yourself.
The rest of your spiel... you can and do talk and you never shut up. But you're also the one that has been banned from speaking because of your inability to control your mouth, not me.
"Once again, relevant to this topic, DL will have fleet wide global WiFi long before AA and UA will."
And yet AA already does have fleet wide global wifi. It's Delta that does not and never has.
"This isn't about DL. It is about you, a pathologically wounded loser that bet on the wrong team"
The amazing and truly sad thing about all this is how weirdly personal this is to you about an airline that fired you... I haven't bet on anyone but when you come on and regularly lie about Delta vs other airlines -- yep, you'll get called out, loser.
Go back to bed. you're embarrassing yourself. Stop being an absolute joke and you won't lose your temper as much as you do.
“of course, neither Ben or Max or any other low lives have any idea what is really going on in real life.”
Wow, you really are a frustrated person. The amount of jealousy you radiate is insane. I really hope that you can get some treatment.
nope.
Just committed to accuracy.
Regardless of the topic.
AA is nowhere close to 100% coverage.
I commended them for turning on the switch but they are nowhere close to 100% coverage even on the narrowbody aircraft they have said would have it.
and since this is now the 3rd day in a row that AA has cancelled 20% or more of its mainline operation, nobody cares about WiFi anywhere close to being...
nope.
Just committed to accuracy.
Regardless of the topic.
AA is nowhere close to 100% coverage.
I commended them for turning on the switch but they are nowhere close to 100% coverage even on the narrowbody aircraft they have said would have it.
and since this is now the 3rd day in a row that AA has cancelled 20% or more of its mainline operation, nobody cares about WiFi anywhere close to being able to actually get on a plane that will operate to its destination.
but you and Max have proven over and over that you are incapable of seeing the big picture in the midst of your personal attacks.
"I commended them for turning on the switch but they are nowhere close to 100% coverage even on the narrowbody aircraft they have said would have it."
and you would know this how? lol
multiple people have posted that they have not experienced what AA is promising.
They didn't get it all fixed while 25% of their flights have been cxld over the past 3 days.
You made at least 2 comments that you need to provide proof for, Max.
1. that I said I do not use my real name. Provide proof.
2. that DL doesn't have plans for high speed WiFi for the 717s.
You...
multiple people have posted that they have not experienced what AA is promising.
They didn't get it all fixed while 25% of their flights have been cxld over the past 3 days.
You made at least 2 comments that you need to provide proof for, Max.
1. that I said I do not use my real name. Provide proof.
2. that DL doesn't have plans for high speed WiFi for the 717s.
You are a pathological liar that throws grenades from the bushes with a deluded user name.
Both of what you assert are flat out lies and everyone that reads knows that.
“You are a pathological liar that throws grenades from the bushes with a deluded user name.
Both of what you assert are flat out lies and everyone that reads knows that.”
The funniest thing is that he uses self reflection as a form of trying to offend others. This is so classic and common with people who live their lifes by just envying others. Get help and be happier Little Timmy. I’ve seem cases of...
“You are a pathological liar that throws grenades from the bushes with a deluded user name.
Both of what you assert are flat out lies and everyone that reads knows that.”
The funniest thing is that he uses self reflection as a form of trying to offend others. This is so classic and common with people who live their lifes by just envying others. Get help and be happier Little Timmy. I’ve seem cases of people who had deeper psychological issues than you and still managed to turn it around.
if you want to jump in, just answer the two questions posed to Max.
1. that I said I do not use my real name. Provide proof.
2. that DL doesn't have plans for high speed WiFi for the 717s.
inability to answer both questions with proof is the liar.
Jumping in to defend Max just proves how clueless you are
Oh timmy
1. You've said that it isn't your real name. Since you go back and forth so often on the topic, I've also, in the past, suggested you send a driver's license to either Gary or Ben since you seem so adamant proving that Tim Dunn is your real name. You have refused every time. And frankly... what are you even going off about? You've used more fake names than a bad KGB...
Oh timmy
1. You've said that it isn't your real name. Since you go back and forth so often on the topic, I've also, in the past, suggested you send a driver's license to either Gary or Ben since you seem so adamant proving that Tim Dunn is your real name. You have refused every time. And frankly... what are you even going off about? You've used more fake names than a bad KGB agent throughout your time online. Do we really need to list all the names you've been banned under at a.net?
Am I going to go back and read through your billion comments to prove what you say when you're black out drunk? no. I'm not. But feel free to prove your name is what you say it is through a very easy method. You claim to have met Gary in person. This shouldn't be difficult for you to prove. I've never once claimed Max Power is my real name. That seems obvious but apparently it isn't to your small brain. You have said Tim Dunn is your name, on occasion. then said it isn't. But I will note you still haven't said Tim Dunn is your real name on here. You've simply demanded proof that you have said otherwise. lol
is it your real name? Prove it then. It's simple.
2. Delta 717s have no high speed wifi. Feel free to provide the link to your source. Regardless of what you send, I don't really care. Delta hasn't ever had fleet wide high speed wifi. AA does. United has a plan to easily surpass Delta in this (though not immediately).
Beyond that.... Again, I'd point you to the date of this article. AA's free wifi rollout is mostly complete per Ben. You pointing to comments on an aviation article to say "See! AA doesn't have free wifi" is more than a little dumb and idiotic to suggest AA is no longer providing free wifi lol. But it's also very you -- grasping at any straw you can to keep an argument going that you've already lost.
why don't you go back to the hole you dug for yourself? Surely you have something to do on a Monday?
But yes, Eduardo...
he has some severe mental issues that he weirdly reconciles by projecting his own self image poorly on to others to attempt to ignore his own issues.
It's unusual and deluded, but also why he's in such a tangled web of lies over years and years and why so many various websites have banned him and his delusional mind from their platforms.
It's entertaining to reply to him, at times,...
But yes, Eduardo...
he has some severe mental issues that he weirdly reconciles by projecting his own self image poorly on to others to attempt to ignore his own issues.
It's unusual and deluded, but also why he's in such a tangled web of lies over years and years and why so many various websites have banned him and his delusional mind from their platforms.
It's entertaining to reply to him, at times, given this is just a comment platform but it is sad that there's a real person on the other end with a fake name of "Tim Dunn" that is actually living this weird sad life thinking that the world revolves around Delta Air Lines... a company that fired him but where he still finds all his personal value.
“It's entertaining to reply to him, at times, given this is just a comment platform but it is sad that there's a real person on the other end with a fake name of "Tim Dunn" that is actually living this weird sad life thinking that the world revolves around Delta Air Lines... a company that fired him but where he still finds all his personal value.”
Precisely Max. He’s like a little toy, but for...
“It's entertaining to reply to him, at times, given this is just a comment platform but it is sad that there's a real person on the other end with a fake name of "Tim Dunn" that is actually living this weird sad life thinking that the world revolves around Delta Air Lines... a company that fired him but where he still finds all his personal value.”
Precisely Max. He’s like a little toy, but for free. But I’m really starting to feel bad for him. I think that his condition makes him think that everyone has the same sick obsession that he has. Notice that 99% of his arguments are “you can’t stand to see DL bla bla bla”. He doesn’t realize that no one gives a crap about who’s number one, two or three. It seems that, for him, Delta is like a son or daughter that you’d give your life for in order to prove to the world how great they are. It’s that sick. Imagine if someone went to trial for murder and said to the judge: “you’re locking me up because you can’t stand to see Delta having more profits than United”. That’s the same logic he uses in 99% of his “arguments”. I really hope that he can get some treatment.
Also tim
thrilled to see Delta may finally get high speed wifi on the 717. Let's hope this Hughes plan you mention actually works so Delta can finally say they have high speed wifi on their fleet after so many years of lagging AA. That paid gogo service on the Delta 717 really is some awful strategic planning by Delta
Next step: global coverage and being able to provide their customers with wifi across the Pacific!
I have met Gary personally. I don't need to prove anything to him.
None of which changes that YOU are the person that posts flat out lies while using a fake, delusional user name.
just answer the two questions, Max
1. that I said I do not use my real name. Provide proof.
2. that DL doesn't have plans for high speed WiFi for the 717s.
Feel free to continue finding the 100 aircraft...
I have met Gary personally. I don't need to prove anything to him.
None of which changes that YOU are the person that posts flat out lies while using a fake, delusional user name.
just answer the two questions, Max
1. that I said I do not use my real name. Provide proof.
2. that DL doesn't have plans for high speed WiFi for the 717s.
Feel free to continue finding the 100 aircraft in DL's fleet that don't have high speed free WiFi while ignoring that UA is missing over 1000 mainline aircraft compared to DL and AA has absolutely no plans to offer free longhaul international high speed WiFI.
Your hypocrisy is stunning but it is all you are Max at
Like I said Tim
1. you're welcome to search your billion+ comments to find what you write. I just remember it coming up, a lot, and depending on your state of sobriety, your answer changes quite a bit on the topic. However, as I've proven in the past, your fake nom de plume on seeking alpha is quite explicit that SA doesn't require writers to use their real names. And I truly hope, for...
Like I said Tim
1. you're welcome to search your billion+ comments to find what you write. I just remember it coming up, a lot, and depending on your state of sobriety, your answer changes quite a bit on the topic. However, as I've proven in the past, your fake nom de plume on seeking alpha is quite explicit that SA doesn't require writers to use their real names. And I truly hope, for your sake, that the Olan Mills' photo on there isn't really you. God, that would be sad for you if it is.
But it is quite an easy thing to prove. Just have Ben or Gary prove it. I don't know why you're so hung up on this though. You've had numerous "fake names" throughout your long-lived posting tenure.
I'll simply copy and post my previous comment:
"But I will note you still haven't said Tim Dunn is your real name on here. You've simply demanded proof that you have said otherwise. lol
is it your real name? Prove it then. It's simple."
Is Tim Dunn your real name, Tim Dunn? ;) it's easy to prove but you'll forgive those of us who have seen your rants under numerous names over the years. Your entire online persona is a lie that it's difficult to tell when you're attempting truth.
2. Already addressed this above.
Tim:
"while ignoring that UA is missing over 1000 mainline aircraft compared to DL and AA has absolutely no plans to offer free longhaul international high speed WiFI."
1. Not true about United. They're already installing starlink on mainline
2. About AA. Also not true whatsoever if you've bothered to read any of the articles Lucky has written vs just posting about delta incessantly. Do try to read the articles where you comment, Tim. It'll help you appear less ignorant to the topic.
your fixation with my name and your confusion about what I said comes SOLELY because you want to do everything you can to discredit me so you don't have to listen (or read) the truth I have to say and write.
You have repeatedly spoken about how much you don't want me to be able to say what I want to say about the airline industry.
none of which changes that you made the statement...
your fixation with my name and your confusion about what I said comes SOLELY because you want to do everything you can to discredit me so you don't have to listen (or read) the truth I have to say and write.
You have repeatedly spoken about how much you don't want me to be able to say what I want to say about the airline industry.
none of which changes that you made the statement that DL has no plans to put high speed WiFi on the 717s.
Provide the proof you have to make that statement.
You can't because it is yet another or your lies.
and Ben made the comparison between AA and DL's WiFi because he wants to stir the pot, as he always does.
Even if AA had working WiFi on every mainline narrowbody it has (which it clearly does not), it does not have more mainline aircraft with high speed free WiFi than DL does even without the 717s and 20 A350s that are still in the process of getting it.
You desperately can't stand to admit that DL leads in anything - you have made that abundantly clear.
And if you think that AA having a hundred or more large RJs with WiFi is supposed to offset the 120 DL widebodies that do offer high speed WiFi that are flying the Atlantic and S. America, you need your head examined.
Just like the UA fan nuts, you incessantly cling to claims of "we are bigger" without being able to demonstrate that AA or UA delivers where it matters - in this case on the longest flights.
and I still will bet you that DL will complete installation of frree high speed WiFi its entire fleet of mainline and RJs before AA and UA will because AA and UA have no plans to put it on their single cabin RJs, of which DL has ZERO.
climb back under your rock. The only thing Max you are is hypocrisy and incoherence.
"You desperately can't stand to admit that DL leads in anything - you have made that abundantly clear."
never have I ever said that. I just don't worship the ground delta walks on, like you. Delta does plenty of things well. They used to lead the industry in having the most free high speed wifi on their planes. They don't anymore. AA has global coverage, more free wifi, and an entire fleet with high...
"You desperately can't stand to admit that DL leads in anything - you have made that abundantly clear."
never have I ever said that. I just don't worship the ground delta walks on, like you. Delta does plenty of things well. They used to lead the industry in having the most free high speed wifi on their planes. They don't anymore. AA has global coverage, more free wifi, and an entire fleet with high speed wifi. Delta doesn't lead there anymore and you strangely struggle to admit basic data.
For the third time on the 717, I addressed my statement directly above and said congrats to you for clinging to the hughes wifi. That doesn't change the facts that Delta does not have free high speed wifi on their mainline fleet and has never had global free wifi much less coverage. I'm sure their customers eagerly await it.
Per your name... I don't give two sh*ts what it is. I certainly do not have a fixation with it.
But you are the one that brought up usernames, not me. I've never claimed MaxPower is my name.
Don't try to come for others about usernames when you can't even make a simple statement "Tim Dunn is my real name", much less prove it in any way.
God, you're an idiot. You attack others for usernames that no one has ever claimed is their taxable name while ignoring you've used fake usernames for EVER and... still do since you can't seem to answer a basic question about your own name...
From you below: "No wonder you hide behind a made-up fake name."
Don't say stupid things like this when you hide behind a made up name and CERTAINLY HAVE at others sites where you're banned.
you're amusing tim, but a joke and laughing stock in case you haven't noticed ;)
But again Tim.
Is Tim Dunn your real name? You sure do struggle to answer this.
Not a soul on the planet is fixated with my name which is exactly what I post.
Again, why does it matter?
You are beyond bizarre if you think it is my responsibility to prove my identity to Ben or Gary when they haven't expressed the least doubt.
YOU are the problem. YOU need to fix your problems.
lol
Tim Dunn everyone!!!
Blasts me for not using my “real name” as though anyone except Ben is doing that here.
But can’t even answer an easy question: “is tim Dunn your real name?”
Tim, I’m certainly not fixated on your name but don’t come for me with your idiotic posts about usernames when you’re not using the real name yourself.
You sure are cagey though… did you not tell Seeking Alpha the...
lol
Tim Dunn everyone!!!
Blasts me for not using my “real name” as though anyone except Ben is doing that here.
But can’t even answer an easy question: “is tim Dunn your real name?”
Tim, I’m certainly not fixated on your name but don’t come for me with your idiotic posts about usernames when you’re not using the real name yourself.
You sure are cagey though… did you not tell Seeking Alpha the truth about your real name? ;)
Sorry about the delay, tim. I’ve been posting on airliners.net
Do you remember what that’s like WorldTraveller or ATL.001Million?
Must feel like ages ago to you now
you have 2 questions to answer. Nothing else.
and since Seeking Alpha just deposited a check in my account, yes, they have the right name.
Too bad you spend so much emotional energy trying to argue things about which you are so far off base you aren't even in the stadium.
chase all the things that you think will deflect from the real questions - which in this case prove you are clueless about...
you have 2 questions to answer. Nothing else.
and since Seeking Alpha just deposited a check in my account, yes, they have the right name.
Too bad you spend so much emotional energy trying to argue things about which you are so far off base you aren't even in the stadium.
chase all the things that you think will deflect from the real questions - which in this case prove you are clueless about WiFi and tell endless lies because you can't accept that DL really did what AA and UA FINALLY decided they needed to catch up with DL - and, right now, they are so far behind and, based on the plans they have outlined, they will not catch up
IN PART BECAUSE AA AND UA HAVE NO PLANS TO PUT WIFI ON THEIR SINGLE PASSENGER RJS.
and yet you have the gall to rail about the 717 fleet which DL most certainly does plan to equip with high speed WiFi.
give it up, Max.
you are a fraud and a liar.
You know it. every time you post on here you convince a few more people that you are a liar and a fraud.
given the number of posts you have made, the number of people that are convinced that you are a fraud and a liar is in the thousands.
lol
So is tim Dunn your real name? That was a clever way of acting like you answered the seeking alpha question but not answering if tim Dunn is your real name
Is tim Dunn your real name? This really is a stupid topic but you’re making it really funny with these ridiculous denials and attempts to throw out straw man arguments
Again. It’s a stupid topic but again, you’re the one who...
lol
So is tim Dunn your real name? That was a clever way of acting like you answered the seeking alpha question but not answering if tim Dunn is your real name
Is tim Dunn your real name? This really is a stupid topic but you’re making it really funny with these ridiculous denials and attempts to throw out straw man arguments
Again. It’s a stupid topic but again, you’re the one who brought it up trying to pretend like tim fun is your real name. I’ve never said my name is max power at work lol
I can only imagine the LinkedIn hate mail you’d send me :)
“ you are a fraud and a liar.
You know it. every time you post on here you convince a few more people that you are a liar and a fraud.
given the number of posts you have made, the number of people that are convinced that you are a fraud and a liar is in the thousands.”
Oh tim… it’s like you actually realize what people think of you yet try to push that on to others… you have a well earned reputation as a huge joke. That’s about the only reputation between the two of us
And per my reputation? This is an airline article comment section. It doesn’t bother me like it clearly does you ;)
Throw all the mud you want my way. It’s just funny that you care so much and that I live in your head this way…
So no free WiFi on older 789s and 772/77W? AA continues being little more than a huge domestic airline...
NOPE.
Starlink doesn't even have an supplemental type certificate for the 787 so they won't be UA's 787s any time soon.
@Tim,
FYI, Starlink is now certified on the 787-8 Qatar just did it. 787-9/-10 still waiting on supplemental type certification.
@samantha
it's better than no wifi whatsoever on Delta on anything crossing the Pacific ocean that
AA has wifi across the Pacific and has for years. Delta never has.
and yet another lie.
DL has paid high speed WiFi on its A350s that have equipment - which is about half of its fleet of 350s.
and you once approve that you love to find the exception of 20 or 80 aircraft while ignoring that DL has 900 aircraft that do have free high speed WiFi on domestic flights and across the Atlantic and to S. America.
No other airline including AA is anywhere close to that.
grow up lol
I fully acknowledge Delta has a large fleet of aircraft with free wifi. Who ever said I didn't? You and your weird straw men arguments to attempt to cover your own idiotic statements.
"No other airline including AA is anywhere close to that."
No, actually AA is far beyond that number.
Took an AA flight with AS FF. I could still login using my AA number and enjoy free wifi
I flew three AA A321's last week and the WiFi was all still only paid options. Flying again tomorrow and will confirm.
I know Ben writes articles to generate page clicks but anyone with an ounce of common sense can realize that UA's "promise" of free WiFi doesn't make up for the fact that DL has been delivering it for years and AA is jumping well past where UA will be by the end of 2026.
and DL is offering it on the majority of its widebody fleet and routes, something that is lost by simply counting...
I know Ben writes articles to generate page clicks but anyone with an ounce of common sense can realize that UA's "promise" of free WiFi doesn't make up for the fact that DL has been delivering it for years and AA is jumping well past where UA will be by the end of 2026.
and DL is offering it on the majority of its widebody fleet and routes, something that is lost by simply counting the number of aircraft.
and DL is still upgrading the remaining 10% of its network. When AA or UA have complete global coverage with free high speed WiFI across their entire fleets, then there will be reason to argue the tables have been turned.
Until then, we have a lot of hot air from Chicago and product delivery from Atlanta that has served hundreds of millions of passengers and soon to be Ft. Worth.
Exactly when will Delta's regional flights have free wifi yet?
Lee isn't wrong. Probably once the CRJ and 717 are finally retired. Would love to see E2 and 220s with WiFi replace them all...
Tell ya what, Tim.
Come back to us when Delta starts offering wifi to Oceania and Asia. Then come back to us when Delta has even a PLAN to offer more than gogo on the 717.
Until then... sorry pal. Delta doesn't have wifi and doesn't have a plan to have even high speed wifi. At least UA has a plan. Those 717s are just getting older and older with no plan...
But of course you had to come on to the comment section with your usual drivel about delta wifi.
Max, you know Tim's gonna hit you on the 772 with 2-4-2 rear-facing, right? And, if he doesn't, I will. Also, what's up with PlusPoints? My goodness, between those and SWU, UA and AA are just plain ole cheap. At least DL's GUCs and RUCs, and B6's Move to Mint, actually clear in-advance, mostly.
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you continue to think I'm somehow beholden to either AA or United and defend them at all cost to dignity and self awareness. And you keep pushing this line no matter what you're told
Some people aren't like Tim and can see where one airline has an advantage over another and don't create an entire online fake persona around defending one airline...
Or spend all day on random aviation sites desperately trying...
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you continue to think I'm somehow beholden to either AA or United and defend them at all cost to dignity and self awareness. And you keep pushing this line no matter what you're told
Some people aren't like Tim and can see where one airline has an advantage over another and don't create an entire online fake persona around defending one airline...
Or spend all day on random aviation sites desperately trying to jump into someone else's discussion to create relevance... you ;)
One more... Max... please, call someone, anyone, and get a new flight safety video. Enough of the 'blue balls' one. *facepalm*
Lee,
Delta just said that on its earnings call the number of RJs that have high speed WiFi (which is from Hughes, not Viasat) and, while I don't remember the number, it was about 2/3 of DL's fleet of 350 or so large RJs.
and all of this incuding Max's incessant blabbering is still supposed to offest the fact that DL has had free high speed WiFi on 700 domestic aircraft for years...
Lee,
Delta just said that on its earnings call the number of RJs that have high speed WiFi (which is from Hughes, not Viasat) and, while I don't remember the number, it was about 2/3 of DL's fleet of 350 or so large RJs.
and all of this incuding Max's incessant blabbering is still supposed to offest the fact that DL has had free high speed WiFi on 700 domestic aircraft for years and expanded it to transatlantic and S. America flights.
Max can't stand to admit that DL has about 20 - yes 20 - A350s that do not have high speed WiFi on them and on the ones that do, they have high speed WiFi - just not free.
Max is so incapable of admitting that DL offers 900 mainline and 200 RJs w/ WiFi over 90% of its domestic flights and 80% of its global network so he incessantly nitpicks over any flaw he can find - while IGNORING that AA has no confirmed plans to turn on WiFi on ANY transoceanic flight and UA has LESS THAN TEN mainline aircraft with StarLink
ALL OF THE PROMISES ABOUT WHAT AA AND UA WILL DO cannot offset the years long headstart that DL has which gives them more global coverage with high speed WiFi than any other airline on earth, regardless of whether Ben knows it or not.
Oh no!
Not the usual tim Dunn “max can’t stand to admit…” some random thing that tim comes up with lol
I’m happy to admit delta has some free WiFi
But it’s also worth noting delta has no plan whatsoever to provide high speed WiFi on their entire fleet, much less free.
AA and United both have plans to have free WiFi across their entire fleet, to include the AA Panasonic...
Oh no!
Not the usual tim Dunn “max can’t stand to admit…” some random thing that tim comes up with lol
I’m happy to admit delta has some free WiFi
But it’s also worth noting delta has no plan whatsoever to provide high speed WiFi on their entire fleet, much less free.
AA and United both have plans to have free WiFi across their entire fleet, to include the AA Panasonic birds as Lucky mentions
Come back to us when delta has a plan to provide high speed WiFi on all their planes… for a start ;)
It’ll be a welcome shock to delta travelers when they join long-served united and AA customers with WiFi across the pacific
Try again, tim
As usual, Max, you lie because you can't stand the truth.
Tell us what regions or fleets DL has no intentions of putting high speed WiFi on.
nevermind. None exists.
DL has plans to put WiFi on its entire fleet.
and DL is already 900 aircraft into the process.
Simply read the comments and you can see that it is still hit or miss to get free high speed WiFi on AA
and, again,...
As usual, Max, you lie because you can't stand the truth.
Tell us what regions or fleets DL has no intentions of putting high speed WiFi on.
nevermind. None exists.
DL has plans to put WiFi on its entire fleet.
and DL is already 900 aircraft into the process.
Simply read the comments and you can see that it is still hit or miss to get free high speed WiFi on AA
and, again, UA has, what 10 mainline aircraft with WiFI.
and neither AA or UA offer free high speed WiFi on any transoceanic flights. AT ALL.
GROW THE F UP, Max.
your childish inability to accept reality is pathological.
Somebody is cranky this evening.
How about you move out of your mom’s basement before attempting to tell others to grow up? Most of us can’t tell if you actually live there or if it’s just stuck in your entire reality of exalting delta 24/7
You’ve ignored the 717 for now the third time replying to me in this comment section?
And this makes about the 20th time you’ve tried to ignore the...
Somebody is cranky this evening.
How about you move out of your mom’s basement before attempting to tell others to grow up? Most of us can’t tell if you actually live there or if it’s just stuck in your entire reality of exalting delta 24/7
You’ve ignored the 717 for now the third time replying to me in this comment section?
And this makes about the 20th time you’ve tried to ignore the obvious failure in delta’s WiFi planning: the 717
Is 717 retirement the plan for the 717, tim? That old plan to put high speed WiFi on the 717 seems to have failed with poor implementation and planning
And sorry to disappoint. But you’ll notice that the free AA WiFi rollout is complete. If you’d stop bringing up delta in every comment section about another airline, you might realize that was addressed In this very article ;)
Sleep tight, Timmy
No need to lose your temper with foul language when you have nothing to say in reply. It just reminds everyone of the loser you are
you're a pathologically infantile prepubescent, Max.
Delta has plans to put high speed WiFi on the 717s, Max. they are rebuilding the wing spars
but let's be perfectly clear that you HAVE to find some flaw with DL's WiFi plan so that you don't have to admit that DL has an insurmountable lead over every other airline, domestic and global.
No foul language is necessary
No wonder you hide behind a made-up fake name.
...you're a pathologically infantile prepubescent, Max.
Delta has plans to put high speed WiFi on the 717s, Max. they are rebuilding the wing spars
but let's be perfectly clear that you HAVE to find some flaw with DL's WiFi plan so that you don't have to admit that DL has an insurmountable lead over every other airline, domestic and global.
No foul language is necessary
No wonder you hide behind a made-up fake name.
meanwhile, DL has more aircraft and seats flying with high speed WiFi than any other airline in the world, something you are emotionally incapable of admitting.
The brass balls it must take to accuse others of made up names when you’ve said tim Dunn isn’t your real name
Neither were the multiple names that got you banned on airliners.net or the other fake names you attempted to use on this very site when you were banned (and still use).
Of course Max Power isn’t my name, you idiot lol
This is a comment section and I don’t take it...
The brass balls it must take to accuse others of made up names when you’ve said tim Dunn isn’t your real name
Neither were the multiple names that got you banned on airliners.net or the other fake names you attempted to use on this very site when you were banned (and still use).
Of course Max Power isn’t my name, you idiot lol
This is a comment section and I don’t take it anywhere near as seriously as you do. I wasn’t fired by delta unlike you so I don’t have anything to prove
Tell us the timeline for the 717s, tim. When will delta have high speed WiFi on their fleet like AA has had for years
“meanwhile, DL has more aircraft and seats flying with high speed WiFi than any other airline in the world, something you are emotionally incapable of admitting.”
Yeah.. because like most of what you post, it’s a made up lie. By regionals alone, AA easily already has more high speed WiFi equipped planes and AA doesn’t have an orphan fleet with gogo on it… like delta
But again. Thanks for the foul language to prove how riled up you are
I really do just live inside your head lol
You’re too easy to rile up over simple facts that you hate about delta lol
What an immature loser.
Get some sleep, pal. One of these days your mom is going to kick you out of her basement
please tell us when and where I ever said that Dunn isn't my real name.
You lie so much you don't even know what the truth looks like
DL intends to either put the Hughes WiFi - the same system which is on large RJs - and have a proven prototype. The system installs as fast as Starlink and is much lighter than Viasat.
Of course AA has more RJs - because they farm out...
please tell us when and where I ever said that Dunn isn't my real name.
You lie so much you don't even know what the truth looks like
DL intends to either put the Hughes WiFi - the same system which is on large RJs - and have a proven prototype. The system installs as fast as Starlink and is much lighter than Viasat.
Of course AA has more RJs - because they farm out flying to regional carriers- which also explains why they have fallen well below DL in NYC and LAX.
No, you don't live in my head. I don't sit around waiting for you to post so you can argue.
You are a pathological liar that is incapable of admitting that DL or I am right.
and you desperately want to spew your lies uncontested.
Get back w/ us when one of AA, DL or UA has fleet wide global free high speed WiFi.
I guarantee it will be DL before AA or UA and you know it but will argue incessantly until then otherwise.
"please tell us when and where I ever said that Dunn isn't my real name."
How about you search about 700 wine bottles ago and you tell us. I can't control what you type under your own username when you're blacked out.
"No, you don't live in my head. I don't sit around waiting for you to post so you can argue."
And yet you wake up and reply immediately to every post....
"please tell us when and where I ever said that Dunn isn't my real name."
How about you search about 700 wine bottles ago and you tell us. I can't control what you type under your own username when you're blacked out.
"No, you don't live in my head. I don't sit around waiting for you to post so you can argue."
And yet you wake up and reply immediately to every post. lol. i really do live rent free in your head
"Of course AA has more RJs - because they farm out flying to regional carriers- which also explains why they have fallen well below DL in NYC and LAX."
So you admit I'm right but are incapable of just saying it so you then talk about Delta's mainline advantage in NYC? Lol. do you know anything about what Delta uses in LGA and JFK as their primary work horse? The regionals..
grow up. you're too stupid to even say anything coherent.
Just admit that AA already has the most planes with free high speed wifi -- admit that, as usual, you made something up then try to change the topic.
It's amusing to call you out so easily but... make it harder to do
2 questions to answer, Max.
Or you prove you are a liar - which we all knew.
and, no, AA does not have the most free high speed WiFi or actual AA passengers wouldn't be posting over and over again that less than half of their AA flights have them.
Tim, you're welcome to search through your own drunken past.
But again, if you're going to call people liars. Is Tim Dunn your real name? You still haven't answered it. You simply keep deflecting by asking where you've said it isn't in an attempt to move the conversation away from a very obvious reality -- you love to attack others for usernames they never claimed were their own names while ignoring your own disgusting...
Tim, you're welcome to search through your own drunken past.
But again, if you're going to call people liars. Is Tim Dunn your real name? You still haven't answered it. You simply keep deflecting by asking where you've said it isn't in an attempt to move the conversation away from a very obvious reality -- you love to attack others for usernames they never claimed were their own names while ignoring your own disgusting past of using fake names then and now. If you want to come at me, prove your own name. It's quite easy to prove.
Per delta and the 717, I've addressed that above. Try reading what's written to you.
"and, no, AA does not have the most free high speed WiFi or actual AA passengers wouldn't be posting over and over again that less than half of their AA flights have them."
Ahhh, yes. The Tim Dunn sampling data set: go to a comment section on aa wifi to determine the uptake on the AA fleet and ignore when it was actually set to be done...
You're a nut job. A funny one, but a nut job with no clue about data or really anything intelligent. But yes. AA has a larger fleet than delta and has free wifi on it now. But no, it was not all rolled out 3 weeks ago when AA announced it as being rolled out.
Surely your day is more interesting than this lame chat, Tim.
your fixation with my name and your confusion about what I said comes SOLELY because you want to do everything you can to discredit me so you don't have to listen (or read) the truth I have to say and write.
You have repeatedly spoken about how much you don't want me to be able to say what I want to say about the airline industry.
none of which changes that you made the statement...
your fixation with my name and your confusion about what I said comes SOLELY because you want to do everything you can to discredit me so you don't have to listen (or read) the truth I have to say and write.
You have repeatedly spoken about how much you don't want me to be able to say what I want to say about the airline industry.
none of which changes that you made the statement that DL has no plans to put high speed WiFi on the 717s.
Provide the proof you have to make that statement.
You can't because it is yet another or your lies.
and Ben made the comparison between AA and DL's WiFi because he wants to stir the pot, as he always does.
Even if AA had working WiFi on every mainline narrowbody it has (which it clearly does not), it does not have more mainline aircraft with high speed free WiFi than DL does even without the 717s and 20 A350s that are still in the process of getting it.
You desperately can't stand to admit that DL leads in anything - you have made that abundantly clear.
And if you think that AA having a hundred or more large RJs with WiFi is supposed to offset the 120 DL widebodies that do offer high speed WiFi that are flying the Atlantic and S. America, you need your head examined.
Just like the UA fan nuts, you incessantly cling to claims of "we are bigger" without being able to demonstrate that AA or UA delivers where it matters - in this case on the longest flights.
and I still will bet you that DL will complete installation of frree high speed WiFi its entire fleet of mainline and RJs before AA and UA will because AA and UA have no plans to put it on their single cabin RJs, of which DL has ZERO.
climb back under your rock. The only thing Max you are is hypocrisy and incoherence.
I was surprised that I didn’t see any free T-Mobile messaging services on my AA flight earlier this month on my leg from DCA-ORD or ORD-HNL.
I don’t have much experience with Viasat or Intelsat services, but wonder how a fully loaded plane’s bandwidth will support the number of users vs Starlink which works consistently well throughout a flight gate-to-gate even on full flights (experience flying HA to SFO, SAN, ICN, JFK, etc).
The celebration here is premature and misses the fundamental economic distinction between Delta's strategy and American's capitulation.
Robert Isom isn't doing this because he "listens to customers"; he is doing it because AA's corporate contract share has collapsed. The RASM gap between DL and AA has widened to a chasm, and this is a desperate, defensive measure to arrest the churn of High-Value Customers (HVCs) defecting to Atlanta.
But here is the technical reality nobody...
The celebration here is premature and misses the fundamental economic distinction between Delta's strategy and American's capitulation.
Robert Isom isn't doing this because he "listens to customers"; he is doing it because AA's corporate contract share has collapsed. The RASM gap between DL and AA has widened to a chasm, and this is a desperate, defensive measure to arrest the churn of High-Value Customers (HVCs) defecting to Atlanta.
But here is the technical reality nobody discusses: Bandwidth Contention. Delta invested billions to densify their Viasat capacity before opening the floodgates, and they built a proprietary logic layer (Delta Sync) to monetize the data. They turned connectivity into a revenue-generating media platform. American, conversely, just found a corporate sponsor (AT&T) to help pay the monthly Viasat bill. They are treating Wi-Fi as a loss leader commodity, not a vertically integrated product.
Mark my words: When 170 people on a loaded A321neo try to stream simultaneously on a "Free" tier without the backend traffic shaping Delta perfected, the noise floor will rise and the service will become unusable for the actual business traveler trying to work. I would rather pay for guaranteed throughput than get "free" congestion.
noted NickW
But thanks. Already been on an A321 with free wifi (announced before the flight as free) on AA and had no issues streaming. You can take your talking points back to your cube on Virginia ave.
Save us the Delta HQ BS. Like Tim, come back to us when Delta has even a PLAN for the ridiculous wifi offering on the 717.
and Max,
let us know when AA and UA have plans for their 50 seat single cabin RJs.
They don't and won't.
DL does have a plan for WiFi on the 717s.
DL will have fleetwide - including regional partner - WiFi before AA and UA.
I guaranteed it.
“ DL does have a plan for WiFi on the 717s.”
The failed one that collapsed within the last year? Tell us oh exalted delta cheerleader
Or do you need to wait for delta corp comm to get back to you with your latest paid lines?
Sorry, but the “everyone streaming” problem just doesn’t hold up. B6 has offered free wifi to everyone on all flights on the ViaSat platform since 2013, no login, no strings attached, and it isn’t a problem.
On any given flight, not everyone is going to stream. There’s still free entertainment and live TV, not everyone has an AAdvantage account to log in, and people sleep, read, talk with their neighbor, and so on. The “EvErYoNe...
Sorry, but the “everyone streaming” problem just doesn’t hold up. B6 has offered free wifi to everyone on all flights on the ViaSat platform since 2013, no login, no strings attached, and it isn’t a problem.
On any given flight, not everyone is going to stream. There’s still free entertainment and live TV, not everyone has an AAdvantage account to log in, and people sleep, read, talk with their neighbor, and so on. The “EvErYoNe WiLl sLoW iT dOwN” argument just doesn’t hold up.
thank you.
This is just the desperate cries of a group of malcontents that can't admit that B6 and then DL for the legacies did years ago what AA and UA are just now doing.
And Viasat is developing faster satellite solutions so the incessant BS about StarLink's speed which can't be matched is worse than elementary school "my tool is bigger than yours" talk
Timtamtrak gets it on this topic. Tim is right, too. DL and B6 have been winning on WiFi (and IFE). AA, UA, and the rest are far behind, and finally just starting to catch up. Gary over at VFTW has whined about others slowing down his paid WiFi. Lame.