Is American Really Losing $1 Billion A Year At Chicago O’Hare? Here’s What The Data Shows

Currently, Chicago O’Hare Airport (ORD) is probably the most fiercely competitive airport in the country. Both American and United have hubs there — United has gained a huge advantage in recent years, though American is now trying to win back some of the market share it has lost.

United CEO Scott Kirby does endless trash talking about American, especially as it relates to Chicago. He suggests American is losing around $1 billion per year in Chicago, and predicts American will eventually have to pull out of the airport, leaving it solely as a hub for United.

Kirby has thrown out a lot of numbers about American’s finances in Chicago, though are any of them actually true? Well, here’s an interesting analysis on that.

American is probably losing lots of money in Chicago, but…

X user bentboolean has posted an interesting analysis about the likely economic reality of the Chicago O’Hare hub for both American and United. He used AI for the analysis, and points out how every article he read about the American vs. United fight in Chicago was surface-level.

While this is an excellent analysis, I think it has to be pointed out that it’s not actually conclusive. That’s because any data-based analysis takes into account domestic yields for ticket sales, and that doesn’t account for things like loyalty revenue, which is nowadays a major source of revenue for airlines.

You can see part of the analysis below, but here’s the gist of it:

  • United’s domestic revenue per air seat mile out of Chicago is 10.5% better than American’s; United is at 26.6 cents, while American is at 24.0 cents
  • United’s domestic cost per air seat mile out of Chicago is 4.6% better than American’s, largely because United flies a higher percentage of mainline aircraft out of Chicago; United is at 11.19 cents, while American is at 11.73 cents (this is only direct aircraft operating costs, and doesn’t factor in a lot of other expenses)
  • Based on this research, the annualized aircraft operating margin in Chicago is $2.82 billion for United, and $1.84 billion for American, but this doesn’t include all kinds of expenses, like gate and terminal rent, ground handling, allocated corporate overhead, etc.
  • If you assume that United is in fact breakeven in Chicago (which is what Kirby essentially seems to be hinting at), then American would indeed be incurring around $1 billion in annual losses there

The catch is that this doesn’t include things like ancillary fees, loyalty and co-brand revenue, cargo, etc. And those are things that massively contribute to a carrier’s bottom line. After all, we often joke that airlines essentially operate as loss leaders for their loyalty programs.

This is a tough hole for American to dig itself out of

The above research more or less matches what I was expecting the situation in Chicago to be between American and United. I figured Kirby’s $1 billion number was based purely on operating results, and that overlooks a major source of airline margins nowadays. So I suspect American’s actual loss in Chicago, once factoring everything in, is in the hundreds of millions, rather than in the 10 figure range.

While the situation for American probably isn’t quite as dire as Kirby is trying to make it look, it’s also not good at all. American has lower revenue and higher costs, and that’s a really bad combination. If American increasingly flies larger aircraft (with lower per seat operating costs), odds are that it would make margins worse, rather than better.

So I really don’t know how this will all play out. I don’t think American is giving up in Chicago, but I also don’t think that United is willing to give up any ground at the airport, even if it costs the airline dearly.

The issue is, how can American really make up ground in Chicago? The airline currently has an inferior product, and while positive changes have been announced, it’ll be well into the 2030s before they’re fully implemented. Meanwhile by the end of 2027, United will have its new narrow body interiors on virtually all planes, along with Starlink Wi-Fi.

I’d be fascinated to know what American’s strategic vision here is. Obviously the airline isn’t just going to throw the towel in on Chicago, but how do you even begin to make the economics better, rather than worse?

American Eagle Embraer E175 regional jet parked at the gate
How is American supposed to make up ground in Chicago?

Bottom line

American and United are currently battling it out in Chicago. United CEO Scott Kirby claims that American is losing $1 billion per year at the airport, and will eventually be forced to pull out, leaving the airport exclusively as a hub for United.

An analysis suggests that the $1 billion amount might actually be based in reality, though only factors in direct operating revenue and costs, and not the overall impact that the presence in Chicago has on the loyalty program. Nowadays even the most profitable US carriers barely directly make money transporting passengers, and instead, largely earn their profits through their loyalty programs.

So while there might be some truth to the $1 billion number, it definitely doesn’t tell the full story, which would have to factor in the loyalty upside from having a hub there (and I imagine that upside is in the hundreds of millions).

What do you make of this analysis on the American & United financial performance in Chicago?

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ChiGuy Guest

No matter how flawed the analysis AA is clearly losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year at ORD. Reaching profitability will require AA to attract millions of additional passengers at ORD (at least 25k per week). Anyone who thinks that's going to come from places like Rockford and Appleton needs to reassess. Everyone should want real and sustainable competition at ORD but I fear UA is winning and Kirby knows it. AA no longer understands how to market to the premium passengers it so desperately needs. I live in Chicago, am a million mile flyer on AA, used to have an AAirpass and hold an Amex Platinum card. I haven't flown AA except to use up AAdvantage miles since 2021. They should be all over me with offers and incentives but all I get are the same tired weekly emails that my school age kids receive. I hope they get it together but from where I sit things aren't looking good for AA...

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ImportViking Diamond

"He used AI for the analysis" That's where we can stop reading. AI is a hype, a bubble, just like the internet bubble of the early 2000s. You remember, when some loud mouthed 'visionaries' predicted that supermarkets would disappear as everyone could just download their yogurt? AI is simply too immature to be used reliably by the general public. Just look up the accounts of Father Phi to get some examples of how most AI models fail spectacularly at very simple tasks. "Hey ChatGPT, how many days of the week contain the letter y?" "Hello, and thank you for asking. I will be happy to assist you. Only two days of the week contain the letter y, Monday and Friday." So, if a simple task can't be completed by a robot, then why trust it with something much more complex? Especially when you don't know when the underlying model and data were last updated, and without access to raw data or detailed insight information that's required to understand how the aggregated surface level reports were made? Once the AI bubble bursts and the US keeps its current economic course with gross overspending, then a new Great Depression is unavoidable. No one is buying US bonds anymore, the US has no allies left that want to take a risk there. So then the country will default. And then it doesn't really matter anymore who flies out of ORD, does it?

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OP Guest

AA is toast. Kirby’s prediction that they’ll let go of ORD as a hub isn’t that outlandish…

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Xal Guest

Big question can UA or AA will survive in Chicago ? Most of big companies moved or moving out of Chicago. Its the business customers which drive airline business. I donot think anyone is going to expand services from Chicago

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Mark Guest

With AA’s (at best) break even financial performance and the strong profitability of DFW and CLT, it makes sense that hubs like ORD would be a major drag on the financials. Not sure if it’s in the billion dollar range, but definitely a drag on the numbers, especially if MIA falls in the “profitable” category.

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