American A321XLR Business Class: I’ve Never Seen Passengers So Unhappy

American A321XLR Business Class: I’ve Never Seen Passengers So Unhappy

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American Airlines recently introduced its new Airbus A321XLRs, which feature all-new cabins. These are supposed to be an exciting aspect of American’s attempt to move upmarket and better compete, as these planes will be used in lucrative markets, including on transcontinental flights and across the Atlantic.

Well, I just flew American’s A321XLR Flagship Suite business class from New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX), and oh my, I don’t even know where to begin. While I’ve praised American’s new Boeing 787-9Ps and think they’re a great step in the right direction, these A321XLRs feel like they were designed in a board room, with no input from passengers or crew. And admittedly I kind of knew what to expect, but there were several little aspects to the product that really took away from the experience.

The brutal American A321XLR feedback I overheard

Before I even share my take on the product (as someone who lives and breathes airline passenger experience), let me share what’s perhaps most telling. Often when you fly a new first or business class product, you’ll hear people onboard gushing about how amazing and impressive it is. After all, premium airline seats have come a long way.

After the plane landed in Los Angeles and the seatbelt sign was turned off, business class passengers just started talking with one another. What were they talking about? Well, how much they hated these new seats:

  • “This is the worst business class seat I’ve ever been in”
  • “I can’t believe this is their new business class, what were they thinking?”
  • “Who designed this seat, this is so tight?”

I’m not making this stuff up, these are the real comments I overheard between strangers. I didn’t hear a single person say a positive thing. Of all the airline products I’ve ever flown, I’ve never witnessed such a negative reaction all at once.

American’s A321XLR business class cabin

Even during boarding, as people walked back to economy, nobody had the usual comments about how “wow, look how nice these seats, I want to sit up here.” Instead, I heard:

  • “Why are the seats facing away from the windows?”
  • “It’s giving New York city cubicle” (he then proceeded to tell the whole business class cabin how his voice is raspy despite the fact he hasn’t hooked up with a guy in 11 days, and then said he hopes he ends up on TikTok — hey, I heard it, so you have to hear it as well)
  • “This is what all the hype was about?”
American’s A321XLR business class cabin

Is American’s A321XLR business class seat really that bad?

While I always enjoy hearing what others have to say, let me share my own take. American’s A321XLR business class is based on the Collins Aerospace Aurora platform, which is a herringbone product, meaning that passengers face away from the windows, and toward the aisle.

American’s A321XLR business class seat
American’s A321XLR business class seat
American’s A321XLR business class seat

Now here’s the thing — American isn’t the first airline to have a product like this. We first saw these seats in the form of JetBlue’s A321LR Mint Suites, and this is also Iberia’s A321XLR business class. So is it fair to criticize American, when other airlines have this as well? Yes and no.

First, let me say that I think most of us aren’t fans of herringbone layouts, where you’re facing the aisle. It’s sort of awkward during boarding, and in general, you have to contort your body to look out the window. The seat also feels super tight, with walls on both sides, and the storage space is also so limited.

Herringbone seats were among the first flat bed seats we saw a couple of decades ago, so why are they making a comeback? The reality is that a herringbone configuration is more efficient than a reverse herringbone configuration, and on narrow body planes, space really comes at a premium, in order for the economics to work. So as narrow body planes increasingly fly longer distances, we’re seeing a return of these less spacious seats.

So, what’s the problem with American’s A321XLR business class, exactly? As I see it, there are a few things that make this marginally worse than other versions of the product:

  • While American’s A321XLR business class seats have doors, they can’t yet be used, as they haven’t been certified; I don’t think that’s a huge deal, but it’s worth mentioning
  • It’s my understanding that American’s A321XLR business class is pitched tighter than JetBlue’s A321LR business class, so the seat does feel a bit less spacious
  • Because of how tight the seat is, plus the TV swinging out in front of you, American’s policy is that the TV has to be stored during the meal service, so that the crew can serve passengers; when you step back, it’s absolutely mind boggling to think that a seat was designed where this needs to be the policy
  • The tray table was super flimsy, and would just squeak and shake constantly; I was working on my laptop, and eventually just placed the laptop on my lap, since the noise of the tray table was so unpleasant
American’s A321XLR business class entertainment screen
American’s A321XLR business class tray table

So as I view it, the new American A321XLR is only marginally worse than what you’ll find on JetBlue and Iberia. However, the hard product on neither of those airlines is particularly good to begin with, and then when you even make it a little bit worse, that’s not exactly ideal.

American’s A321XLR business class lavatory mess

If you ask me, the biggest issue with American’s new A321XLR is the extent to which this plane was designed with the sole focus on getting as efficient of a layout as possible.

The American A321XLR has one lavatory in the front of the plane, and three lavatories in the back of the plane. The people who are worst off are premium economy passengers, since there’s no dedicated lavatory for premium economy, so they either have to go to the very front or very back of the plane.

This is where the issue arises. On domestic flights, American allows passengers to use any lavatory on the plane. So you have the one forward lavatory shared between the pilots, the 20 business class passengers, and (more often than not), the premium economy passengers. That’s a horrible lavatory ratio.

American’s A321XLR premium economy cabin

On international flights, American asks passengers to use the lavatories in their ticketed cabin, and for premium economy, the designated lavatory is in economy. Still, think about it. This plane will operate transatlantic flights, and almost everyone will want to use the lavatory before landing, after waking up.

How are 20 people, plus the pilots (who so often want to use the lavatory shortly before landing), supposed to share one lavatory? It’s going to be a disaster.

How does that differ from JetBlue and Iberia? JetBlue has 24 business class suites, but opted to install two lavatories at the front of the aircraft, and also doesn’t have premium economy. Iberia has only 14 business class seats, with one lavatory, and there’s also no premium economy.

American’s forward A321XLR lavatory sees a lot of action!

Is this all just an indictment of the Airbus A321XLR?

I can totally see how we got to the point where American has an A321XLR with TVs that can’t be used during service, and a terrible premium lavatory ratio:

  • Airbus is of course selling a plane that’s extra long range, and is highlighting to airlines how great the economics can be for long and thin routes
  • Seat manufacturers want to create efficient seats for these types of planes, since that’s what airlines want, so that a sufficient number of seats can be on the plane for the math to work
  • US airlines have very high labor and operating costs, and of course American wants to optimize the configuration, to maximize revenue potential

Individually all of that sounds fine, but then when you step back and look at the big picture, you’re left with a plane that has direct aisle access from every business class seat, yet leaves passengers really unhappy.

I’ve written in the past more broadly about the A321XLR, and whether it’s a long haul game changer or a plane to avoid. Here’s the thing — if you’re flying this plane in a transatlantic market where there otherwise wouldn’t be nonstop flights, many people would find it worthwhile to deal with the worse product for the convenience of not connecting.

I think American’s strategic blunder is also putting these planes on its most competitive, transcontinental routes, where there are a ton of options. Why would you subject yourself to this if you don’t have to?

Before I rag on American too much, though, let me note that United also has A321XLRs coming soon, and they’re likely to have nearly all the same problems that American has. They also have 20 herringbone business class seats and 12 premium economy seats, with one lavatory at the front of the plane.

Honestly, maybe Delta had the right idea by saying no to this plane, since this just doesn’t feel like the future, in terms of comfort. It’ll be telling to see whether passengers just complain about the product but continue to fly it, or if they actually vote with their wallet.

Even Qantas, which recently took delivery of A321XLRs with a much less premium configuration, is already starting to retrofit these planes, to add lavatories. Passengers just aren’t happy.

Is the Airbus A321XLR just an impossible plane to get right?

Bottom line

I had the chance to fly American’s new A321XLR business class, and unfortunately it’s a far cry from American’s new 787-9P business class. Now, that’s not really surprising to me, since I knew to expect herringbone seats, which are otherwise out of style.

However, American obviously had a heavy focus on efficiency, to the point that passengers can’t even view their personal entertainment screens head-on during the meal service. And that says nothing of the lavatory mess.

I’ve flown a lot of new products shortly after launch, but I’ve never witnessed such a negative reaction from other passengers in the cabin, especially without any sort of a prompting. I didn’t hear a single passenger on the plane say a good thing about the cabin or seats.

What’s your take on American’s A321XLR business class? Do you think passengers will vote with their wallets and avoid these planes, or just put up with it?

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  1. The_REDEEMER New Member

    I have a hard time believing this. People don’t speak like this to complete strangers. Even in Economy people rarely complain to strangers. Especially the hooking up part, that’s unhinged behavior. This reads like those made up redditor stories.

    I’m surprised this blog post didn’t end with Scott Kirby bursting through the gate giving out free COASTLINER upgrades (and then everybody clapped).

  2. avgeekagent Member

    I have found jetBlue's Mint suites to be very comfortable on transcon and Europe-NYC routes. Will be interesting to assess actual measurements and see how much is perception vs reality vs B6/IB. Regardless, I do hope AA will modify these to at least include 5-6 rows of MCE. DL and UA are planning a better product in back for their transcon sub-fleets.

  3. Jon Guest

    I flew UA Polaris on a 787 for the very first time last month, and I thought the seat was the worst biz class in a long time (the Polaris lounges at IAD and EWR on the other hand were great although BA's lounge in MIA is better IMHO).

    My main complaint with Polaris (besides the very mediocre service) was that the entry from the aisle was extremely narrow. I wonder how the AA 321XLR compares in terms of the width of the entryway.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Apparently, you've never flown UA's 772 with the 2-4-2 rear-facing lie-flat actual 'coffin' seats. Sure, lie-flat is better than recliner which is better than a middle seat in the last row of economy with no recline near an over-flowing lavatory... but, to complain about Polaris on 787... who are you? Tim Dunn??

  4. EricSchmidt Member

    Why is reverse herringbone slightly less space efficient than herringbone?

    1. 1990 Guest

      This is the one thing I wish they'd done differently. Like, facing the window would've been better, in my opinion. Old a321T Flagship First faced the windows. Not sure why they went with this instead.

  5. CF Frost Guest

    I really hated this plane! I now call it coffin class. The business seats are so narrow that sitting sideways on takeoff my head hit the wall. How could they sacrifice the windows? That decision is unforgivable. The first class lavatory was inoperable for the duration of my flight. This plane was a huge disappointment. Someone should be fired.

  6. Bruce Diamond

    I don’t think this is a problem with the plane. It is more a problem that American and United (and Qantas too) took too big of a swing trying to create a very dense layout… and the compromise was too much for the passengers. They will most likely backtrack, as I don’t think passengers are quite ready for such a squeeze. JetBlue’s A321LR is a fine ride and everyone seems fine with it.

  7. Lebonrobert Gold

    Do Iberia and Jet Blue require passengers to stow their television during meal service? I bet not.

    1. Andrew Guest

      Iberia did not when I flew the same plane last month.

  8. Jacob Guest

    American needs to clean house at corporate.

  9. AJ Guest

    I flew in the Iberia version of this in January. Honestly, my biggest complaint about the layout is that all the plebs need to walk through business class in order to reach their seats. This meant no pre-flight beverage service because the aisle was clogged with poors. Did this happen with AA too?

    1. 1990 Guest

      My gosh, if a literal lie-flat suite with a door (*soon to be operable) on a narrowbody isn't enough distance from the so-called 'peasants'... you probably should just pay to fly yourself private.

  10. AeroB13a Diamond

    Really Ben? New aircraft, new cabins and yet no improvement. One has to laugh …. people call AI out for being a poor ride and a third world airline. Can American even compete with AI?

    1. Dick Guest

      AI is horrible airline with very poor safety records. You must be insane to fly them...

  11. Brett Hartmann Guest

    Also less MCE seats. Terrible decisions and i’ve already tried to avoid this on the JFK to SFO route.

    1. 1990 Guest

      You're gonna make Peter's day. He's a huge MCE advocate.

    2. Peter Guest

      Brett did it! He made my day… by pointing out yet another obvious failure of this plane! The XLR is a plane that is optimized for cargo with the RCT. The way AA configured it is really not great.

      Got downgraded to a 787P in two months and watched the 4 MCE seats I booked turn into 3 because… no MCE on that plane either!

      It’s almost as if AA has bad leadership or something.

  12. Andrew Guest

    Hey Ben, I was just on this aircraft with Iberia, no doors. Don't think you need to edit this post, but more a FYI.

  13. leol Guest

    Judging from the pictures, the walls in JetBlue's Mint are much lower. When you have walls on both sides, you don't want them to be too high.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Is that the only real difference between the Flagship Suite and newer Mint? If so, these are great, because Mint is excellent. More privacy (higher walls) seems better, not worse.

  14. Will Guest

    Further proof that time is cyclical and that AA never learns. Anyone remember the Oasis disaster?

    1. 1990 Guest

      This is nothing like Oasis. These are lie-flat suites; Oasis was recliners and economy without IFE. The Flagship Suite on the XLR is leaps and bounds better than Oasis, and honestly, nothing like it.

  15. Samar Gold

    Looking forward to the full review. I booked the XLR for my flight home (via LAX) after a long trip to Asia in September (also extending the trip one more night to do so). Maybe I'll just take the nonstop home instead and skip the overnight, but have plenty of time to decide.

  16. DiogenesTheCynic Member

    This doesn't surprise me -- from the perspective of a normal flyer who doesn't obsess over these things as much as we do, the key difference here is it's a narrow body plane, and that feels much more cramped. Passengers are absolutely going to prefer wide bodies. Of course, a passenger would probably prefer a narrow-body direct flight over a wide-body connecting flight, but like I flew the A321XLR from IAD to MAD -- that's not exactly a marginal route!

  17. shoretoplease Guest

    The premium economy seat looks much more appealing than business class.

    1. 1990 Guest

      By all means, please, give up your lie-flat for a recliner... oh wise one...

    2. James K. Guest

      I'm actually with him. If I'm flying JFK-LAX during the daytime and don't need to sleep, I would be much more interested in (say) flying Premium Economy paying 40k miles than flying a crappy J product and paying 80k (often much more than that I imagine).

      -Can sit next to my wife and talk to her
      -Can look out the window
      -Can watch the movie while I eat my meal
      -Looks honestly more spacious

    3. 1990 Guest

      Wonderful, Jimmy. Please, give up your lie-flat. More for those of us who want to actually sleep on a redeye. Have fun in the back with your wives! Psh.

    4. Peter Guest

      Except there’s no mid-cabin lav. So in PE you’re walking to the back of the packed bus to use one of the 3 cramped bathrooms they put back there.

      Why fly this product over a competitor? I don’t get the pitch.

      Speaking of pitch, I still do not see the XLR listed on AA’s plane stat page. I know that page 2 of a pdf in the newsroom claims economy pitch is 32” but...

      Except there’s no mid-cabin lav. So in PE you’re walking to the back of the packed bus to use one of the 3 cramped bathrooms they put back there.

      Why fly this product over a competitor? I don’t get the pitch.

      Speaking of pitch, I still do not see the XLR listed on AA’s plane stat page. I know that page 2 of a pdf in the newsroom claims economy pitch is 32” but will be fascinated once the stats are posted more publicly (if it really is 32” of pitch in economy, why wouldn’t AA be touting that?)

  18. Tim Dunn Diamond

    trying to put a smaller ratio of what is on a widebody on a narrowbody just isn't going to work for all the reasons you mention.

    DL is going w/ a much smaller number of A321NEOs for domestic premium use than AA and UA.

    Given that the A321XLR has fairly poor takeoff performance, there really is no operational advantage to a narrowbody other than fewer seats which just results in higher unit costs that a widebody can easily beat

    1. 1990 Guest

      And yet, it's objectively better to have lie-flat than a recliner or an economy middle seat. So, these 'whiners' that Ben described are really silly; it's more likely that they just couldn't handle 'change.'

    2. Tim Dunn Diamond

      it's a compromised solution. and people don't see compromise as progress, nor should they.

    3. 1990 Guest

      Tim, I don't care which airline it is... ALL of them that target the premium market should have lie-flat up-front, including narrowbodies and widebodies, especially if operating 5+ hour flights on redeyes, like these XLR, 737max can and should do. To resort to mere recliners is weak.

  19. RC Guest

    I’ve flown in J on the XLR. It’s a perfectly fine product. I’m 6’1” and 180. I’m sure the people complaining about the size of the seat are what the industry calls “customers of size”

  20. 1990 Guest

    Ben, you've flown jetBlue's newer Mint, which has a very similar configuration and seat (1:1). How is this really all that different? I like that, and perhaps, people are just whining for the sake of whining. It's also not that different from Flagship First on the old a321T (1:1), just a little narrower.

    1. Taylor Guest

      If you read the article, you would have picked up on what Ben says the differences are: JetBlue Mint isn't pitched quite as tight and there's two lavs in the front of the aircraft.

      I'd argue that it is in fact quite a bifferent from 32T Flagship First given that aircraft also has two lavs in the general area (forward and mid-cabin) and it's a reverse herringbone configuration.

    2. 1990 Guest

      If only I could read... No, my question is beyond what Ben already wrote.

      Ok, so, to you, Taylor, it's all about the lavs, eh? Well, fact check: Not all newer Mint have the two lavs in front (yes, 3NL type does have 2 in-front, but, 3NS types does not; it has 1 in front, 1 behind Mint at engines).

      Compared to the a321T, I'd argue XLR is better, simply, because it's not falling...

      If only I could read... No, my question is beyond what Ben already wrote.

      Ok, so, to you, Taylor, it's all about the lavs, eh? Well, fact check: Not all newer Mint have the two lavs in front (yes, 3NL type does have 2 in-front, but, 3NS types does not; it has 1 in front, 1 behind Mint at engines).

      Compared to the a321T, I'd argue XLR is better, simply, because it's not falling apart. Several times in the past couple years I've literally had broken seats in F that had to be manually lowered to lie-flat and raised by crew for landing.

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1990 Guest

By all means, please, give up your lie-flat for a recliner... oh wise one...

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RC Guest

I’ve flown in J on the XLR. It’s a perfectly fine product. I’m 6’1” and 180. I’m sure the people complaining about the size of the seat are what the industry calls “customers of size”

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1990 Guest

Is that the only real difference between the Flagship Suite and newer Mint? If so, these are great, because Mint is excellent. More privacy (higher walls) seems better, not worse.

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