The Sad Reason For Gulfstream Charter Flights To Israel

We’re seeing all kinds of exceptional flights being operated at the moment, in light of circumstances. However, this has to be one of the more somber reasons for a charter flight…

Let me start by saying that I’m kind of piecing together the details of this best I can, based on a tip from a reader, who asked to remain anonymous.

Gulfstream flying from East Farmingdale to Tel Aviv

Talon Air is a private jet charter company, and in the past several weeks they’ve operated at least one weekly flight as follows:

  • From Republic Airport in East Farmingdale, New York, to Tel Aviv, Israel
  • From Tel Aviv, Israel, to Marseille, France
  • From Marseille, France, to East Farmingdale, New York

They’ve been using a Gulfstream for these flights — the plane flies from New York to Tel Aviv, stops for a couple of hours, and then continues to Marseille. Then the plane spends the night there, before returning to New York the following day.

At a minimum, this “trip” has operated on April 5, April 12, and now a flight is in the air as I write this, with the flight number Talon Air 967 (TFF967).

Why is this flight operating?

It would appear that these charter flights are transporting the deceased to Israel. Many Jews consider it an honor to be buried in Israel. Generally remains would be shipped on United Airlines, as they continue to fly from Newark to Tel Aviv.

However, as of March 25, 2020, United Airlines suspended all casketed funeral shipments through their “TrustUA” program. Therefore charter flights are being organized in order to transport those who have passed.

My understanding is that the plane refuels and then continues to Marseille so the crew can spend the night there. Israel isn’t allowing in foreigners at the moment. I believe airline crews are excluded, though perhaps charter crews aren’t included among those.

How much do charter flights cost?

I respect and applaud those who are willing to spend the money to bury their loves ones in a way that they find appropriate. For those wondering, I do imagine this is quite expensive. Based on doing some Googling, a Gulfstream charter usually costs over $8,000 per hour.

The plane is flying roundtrip to Israel, so it’s flying for well over 20 hours. Based on that, I would guess that one of these charters must cost somewhere around $150,000 to $200,000.

Furthermore, Gulfstream aircraft have pretty small cargo holds, so I wonder about the overall capacity between the cargo hol dand the cabin. I’m not sure how many ways that charter cost is being split, but this can’t be cheap, because the capacity can’t be high.

Bottom line

Talon Air is operating charter flights from Republic Airport to Israel at least once a week, with a stop in Marseille on the way back, where the plane spends one night. With United having suspended casketed funeral shipments, this seems to be the only way for many to bury their loved ones the way they want.

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TKCA New Member

Are there substantially discounted seats available on the Marseille-Newark return?

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Eskimo Guest

@Travis "I do think religious practices are wasteful, unnecessary and illogical in the civilized society." Go tell that to the followers of Joel Osteen, the late Billy Graham, or the Kardashians. @George I think a lot of it has to do with mind your own business the dead can't spread the virus. But I do agree about the group of people who took a private jet to France were turned around at the border. Those people are the wrong example of how to spend money and deserved to be locked up. @Endre Money can’t buy you ethics but I don't see how this is ethically wrong as the dead can't possibly make things worse. We live in a Covid world not a zombie movie. "Having the ability to afford such sentimental nonsense" Unless you are homeless living in poverty without access to clean food or drink, (not to mention electricity) you are not in a position to tell people how to spend their wealth or what is nonsense. Your TV, car, cellphones, and plane rides prove that you are nothing but a hypocrite.

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Endre Guest

@Mak people like you are the reason why a certain religion is labeled as being overly entitled and self-righteous. Thanks for proving my point. Having the ability to afford such sentimental nonsense while at the same time hundreds of New Yorkers must be piled up and buried on an island won’t justify such flights to an alleged “Holy Land”. Money can’t buy you ethics.

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George Guest

@Al Nice straw-man you built there. In case you missed it, my post criticised the risk to all the individuals involved in the logistics of flying bodies half-way around the world on private jets for a preferential burial location. I imagine the majority of the 171,249 people who have died so far of coronavirus have managed without a private jet despite their spectrum of religious beliefs. You don't need to hire a private jet to be buried within a day or two of where you pass away. @Mak Like I said... Just because you can afford something doesn’t mean you should or that it’s ethical. Having money isn’t a get out of jail free card. A group of people who took a private jet to France were turned around at the border, "people concerned with others spending their own money" wasn't a reasonable explanation it seems. Why should a minority have special rules and privileges to put others at risk after they have died just because they have money? As a reminder, we are being told to stay at home unless it's absolutely essential. This is exceptionally irresponsible and selfish.

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SK Guest

Can these dimensions fit into a small jet (multiplied several times)?

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