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United Passenger Tries To Open Exit, Stabs Flight Attendant In Neck With Spoon

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My goodness, what is wrong with people?! We now have video footage of what happened from the incident I wrote about yesterday…

Continue reading: United Passenger Tries To Open Exit, Stabs Flight Attendant In Neck With Spoon

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(@Charles)
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He reminds me of Debit


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(@santastico)
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You can search online but 9 out of 10 adult Americans believe there is a mental health crisis in this country. That explains events like this.


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(@Never In Doubt)
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"What do you make of this very strange incident?"

Time to remove spoons from aircraft. Obviously.


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(@Never In Doubt)
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There's always been crazy people. It's just much easier to hear about the crazy sh*t they do now.


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(@santastico)
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LOL!! Well, that's what will probably happen when you have stupid politicians making decisions. No more water bottle. Remove shoes. Remove spoons. Hopefully nobody will use an underwear as a treat.


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(@GS 3M)
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Throw the book at the moron and ban him from flying on any airline (once he gets out of jail). Hopefully, the flight attendant is ok? That is the most important part of the incident.


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(@Joanne Reg)
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Booze is back on the planes. Doesn't help these type of things...


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(@Blanca mena)
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Hope he's not bipolar!


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(@Rufus)
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So some asshat clearly had wanted to do something nefarious. Asked the question about the arming handle. Clearly they had some indication he was the one who moved the handle, and then reacted by assaulting and battering the FA. More importantly is that he somehow was able to get near the door. What would happen if he were able to disarm and open this door. I would thing not good things, so we were near a disaster or at least an airborne emergency.

Throw the book at this clown, get the appropriate witnesses to testify and let him try it again in lets say.... never.


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 Guy
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The thought that there will be some low-life lawyer defending this guy in the court room equally disturbs me...


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(@Jose Torres)
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Oh, Finally someone NOT named Abdul!


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Diamond
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Attitudes like yours are exactly why there's stigma against mental health treatment. If only the 3M miles you've flown could teach you anything about the value of all human beings.


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Diamond
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Defense attorneys are the bedrock of our civilized society.


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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Are you a certified mental health professional? Or are you in fact unqualified to make ignorant claims such as this?


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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What Americans believe is immaterial. The vast majority of Americans are not qualified to opine on anything that pertains to mental health.


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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"Stupid politicians" in America were elected by their constituents.


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 Ryu2
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There was already an Underwear Bomber in 2009, thats why we have full body scanners


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 DCS
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Oh, lord. Somebody is using a chatbot to spam the comments again. Or are you the dude that tried to open the door?


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(@George Romey)
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Tells me the real threat to aviation isn't "terrorist" but the ever growing number of people, particularly Americans with mental illness.


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Diamond
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Just Google YinDaoYan ( infection of ..) you can kind of work out who these trolls are by the way they formulate posts and articulate responses, don’t feed them.


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 ray
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He was interrupted while opening the door in flight or its harder to open than we think?
Perhaps he got cold feet at the thought of exiting the aircraft before landing?


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(@Marc Norden)
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forget about the silverware.....this airline uses sharp,pointed,wooden cocktail stir sticks in First Class. Easily could inflict major damage to a person.


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 Mark
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How nice to have a chat bot responding to messages


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(@D3kingg)
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It’s amazing how none of these misbehaving passengers happen on my flight. Or any flights to Texas or Oklahoma for that matter.


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(@D3kingg)
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@George Romey

Let’s agree to disagree. Make no mistake there are still “terrorist” threats of people from Middle East origin. Boston marathon bombing , 7/7 London Underground attacks , Orlando pulse night club , running over cyclists and pedestrians in NYC , etc. all pledged allegiance to a jihadist group. The failed plane bombers post 9/11 ; shoe bomber , liquid bomber , and Nigerian bomber all failed to detonate. Thank god.


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(@Matthew)
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This is terrifying. I hope he never flies again and gets a big sentence.


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(@Rational Person)
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Yeah, jump in a lake "Guy." I suppose in your civilized society it'd just be the lynch mob. Now that I think about it I expect you've been hoping for a good ol' fashioned lynching for quite a while.


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(@GS 3M)
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I’d prefer the a$$hat be in an institution getting the help he/she needs and not on an aircraft. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Glad you have compassion for the professional doing their job.


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 John
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What is a chatbot?

Thank you for your help.


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Diamond
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That's a different position than what you originally expressed ("jail" which very much does NOT help anybody).

Please read up on the prison abolition movement and why it makes sense for our country which is notorious for inhumane treatment of prisoners who are still human beings. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Prisoners in Western Europe, many of whom have committed far more violent crimes than what happened on this aircraft, are accommodated in facilities exceeding the sanitation and building standards of most Motel 6 properties. If we're not going to do that (and in the US, surely not), then we need to find ways other than imprisonment.


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Diamond
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TX and OK are not worth flying to. The interesting parts of the US are all on the coasts, and even then, only in hotspots:

- West: Seattle, SF, LA /honorable mentions to Portland and San Diego
- East: Boston, NYC, DC /honorable mentions to Philly and Miami


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Diamond
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You seem to have a punitive mindset and wish the worst outcomes for your fellow human beings.


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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Ever heard of a #2 pencil?


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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Opening the door at altitude is impossible due to air pressure differences.


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Diamond
(@yindaoyan)
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Let's not agree to disagree. Romey is right on the mental health angle.


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(@Billy Bob)
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What's Paula got to do with anything?


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(@Billy Bob)
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Could just shoot them.


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 Jeff
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You didn’t say anything about the injuries to the flight attendant - hope that they were OK!


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(@Mohammed)
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Another case of US flight crew provoking passengers and creating a big deal from nothing. Someone needs to send them to Qatar or Hong Kong to teach them how to deal with people


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(@Tim G)
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..." I imagine there must have been some sort of substance involved."
Ben why speculate? He could be suffering from a mental health issue, nothing to do with substances.


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(@lasdiner)
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They can pledge allegiance to the New England Patriots if they want bit they’re still people with mental health issues who reside legally on US soil. They’re terrifying but not terrorists


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(@lasdiner)
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you beed to be on something to leave LA for Boston


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(@Julia)
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How did they provoke him?


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(@Julia)
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Nah, you only wanting to call people from the Middle East terrorists is appalling.

For example, why is it the Orlando Pulse night club shooter get to be called a terroriss, but not other US based shooters?


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(@Icarus)
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Why is it so many Americans don’t consider attacks on their countries soil as terrorism. They are terrorists.


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(@Icarus)
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So many Americans have mental health issues. And yes, alcohol not medication won’t help.


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(@D3kingg)
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@Juliah

Yea. When you shoot up a nightclub and then pledge your allegiance to ISIS during a 911 call and to the news then you’re an Arab “terrorist”. George Romey is the one that labeled this person a “terrorist.” It’s not racist at all. It comes from the Middle East.


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(@Icarus)
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The US has the worst penal system in the industrialised world and highest percentage of its own citizens behind bars.


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Diamond
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you beed to be on something to leave LA for Boston

Unless you're a student going to university. LA (or California in general) is surprisingly weak in the quantity of good schools. Sure you've got Caltech, Stanford, Berkeley and UCLA spread across the Golden State, but metro Boston alone has Harvard, MIT, Wellesley, BU, BC, Northeastern and no doubt other institutions with lower profiles but outstanding resources.


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(@Koggerj)
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All those cities are crime infested cesspools


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(@Julia)
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It is racist when you only apply that designation to people from the Middle East or Americans whose ethnicity is from the Middle East. Also, George wasn't the one who labeled him a "terrorist", but nice try deflecting anyway.


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(@Aussie)
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Drugs/mental illness my ass. He’s just a feral animal.

Trump was right. Build the wall.


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Diamond
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Wow, it's hard to express more ignorance and hatred in four short sentences.

1. Dismissive attitude toward a major topic of societal concern that could be solved with greater collective awareness and empathy

2. Debasement of a human being

3. Praise for the most bigoted U.S. President in history

4. Advocacy for an expensive and inefficient solution to an artificial problem (we're all humans; country borders are artificial divisions between members of a single species and should be opened worldwide to free movement)


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Diamond
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I can see how you would come away with that impression if your media diet is all right-wing falsehood networks.


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(@lasdiner)
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I know
I come from The School
But most of us for warmer climate and opportunities BOS doesn’t offer
As per Aussie’s comments, yes they are out of line, but mental illness is far more prevalent among immigrants, even more so illegal ones, and awareness and empathy alone won’t do, I am afraid. Citizens, taxpayers and a modern community as a whole need a plan, besides a more human collective attitude


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 JDee
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Flight Attendant obviously lunged at him with his neck causing the passenger to defend himself with the broken spoon.../s (just in case)


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(@Francisco C)
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Good to see several passengers ready to take this guy down.


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(@JetBlueFanboy)
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Yep, time to start the war on spoons!


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(@D3kingg)
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@Julia

The article is about a disruptive passenger. George is the one that brought up the term “terrorist”. Again. So no. Nothing racist when a terrorist announces they support a terrorist organization in the Middle East after committing an attack on innocent people. It came from the Middle East.

Countries on the terrorist list :
Afghanistan
Iraq
Nigeria
Syria
Somalia
Yemen
Pakistan


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(@Icarus)
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Build a wall to keep trump supporters/Americans out


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(@George)
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Schizophrenia
Psychotic delirium
Delusions of grandeur

People with symptoms like these are so common, but society seems to push it under the rug..


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(@Julia)
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Except he wasn't the one using the word to describe the passenger or people from certain parts of the word. Again. So no.

YOU are the one who keeps bringing it up and keeps using the word to describe people from certain parts of the world.

And yes it is racist when you only use to describe acts committed by people from certain parts of the world and not others.

And saying it came from the Middle East is extremely asinine.


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(@volleyball)
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Sounds like a Frontier passenger forgot they were on an United flight...


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(@Attila)
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That wasn’t Kareem Abdul Jabbar in the cockpit—it was Roger Murdock…yeah, that’s it.


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Diamond
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Defense lawyers are not necessarily aiming to get the crime aquitted. It's more about preventing rogue prosecutors from demanding inapproptiate or outlandish sentences.
If you are not in a position to go jurisdictional judge-shopping in the USA you could find yourself banged up for 30 years in some states for shoplifting, or the like.
This guy needs to be treated for a mental health disorder, not chucked into a prison where it won't happen in a million years.


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Diamond
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hmm..... sounds like a recent entrant to the Ex-Presidents Club.


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(@Steven E)
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Ben it seems that your site has bee infiltrated by a member of the CCP


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(@Michael)
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Nothing would have happened. He would not have been able to open the door. The door has to move inward at the beginning, against the air pressure pushing on it, to the tune of about seven pounds per square inch. That's about 18,000 pounds of force pushing the door into the frame, that he'd have to overcome.


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 dave
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i read that the man was arrested in Boston and released


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 Pudu
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@D3kingg How would you describe Tim McVeigh? Even among the racist trash that infests this site you stand out for being absolutely worthless.


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(@iamhere)
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Now they will likely ban metal forks.


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(@Peter)
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What about Chicago- that’s a solid hotspot.


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