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Quick tutorial of United's "Expert Mode"

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Yesterday I posted about United bringing back "Expert Mode" after removing the functionality a few weeks ago. On that post reader MM asks the following: Can the newbs get a tutorial on understanding “expert” mode and the supposed benefits? Of course! For those of you not familiar with "Expert Mode" it's basically a feature by…

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(@Michael)
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Which fares can be upgraded with miles on United? How do those upgrades work?


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@ Michael -- This page will show you the cost to upgrade and eligible fare classes for various types of tickets:
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx


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(@Lincoln Park)
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Wow, great post! Still very much of a newbie in all of this, but this first time I've seen such a thorough listing AND more importantly EXPLANATION of United's various fare codes. This makes the Expert Mode so much more understandable for me! Great job Lucky!


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 Eric
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Thank you, this post is quite helpful.

How do you know what the fare class letters mean? Are these the same or different across other airlines?


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(@Exiled Antipodean)
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You do have to click on the Fare Class link. Hovering does not work, though on the old UA (pre March 3) site hovering was how you viewed this information.


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@ Lincoln Park -- Thanks!

@ Eric -- Each airline has different fare classes. Here's a further explanation of United fare classes:
http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php/Booking_Classes_%28UA%29


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(@Jim in PHL)
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I would consider this post to contain a more up to date description of UA's booking codes than the wiki link you provided:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileageplus-consolidated/1270547-decoding-alphabet-soup-new-fare-buckets-ua.html


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(@Michael)
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Thanks a lot Ben. Great post, as usual.


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(@zach-h)
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Ben, would there be a fare class for award standbys? For example if I'm confirmed in international First but the domestic leg is economy and waitlisted.


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@ Jim in PHL -- Thanks for the link!

@ Michael -- Thanks!

@ Zach -- There's no special fare class for waitlisted upgrades. For a domestic segment in two cabin first class you'd be looking for "I" class to open up.


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(@amber)
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That FlyerGuide page is woefully out of date, Lucky. A number of the classes are misrepresented there. An up to date version is here: http://boardingarea.com/thewanderingaramean/2011/10/decoding-fare-buckets-on-the-new-united/.

And, for people who want to see the "expert mode" information more easily and who use a GreaseMonkey-capable browser the script here is VERY useful.


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(@youreadyfreddie)
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As usual, you rock, Lucky! Thanks for this.


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(@Scott)
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whats the advantage to checking expert mode to see how full the flight is, for bump opportunities, as opposed to just viewing the seat map?


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@ youreadyfreddie -- Thanks!

@ Scott -- Well the seatmap really isn't an accurate indicator of availability. For example, a group of 40 could be booked on a flight but not have seats selected, so the seat looks wide open while it's actually full.


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thanks for the quick response as always! I've always confused R with I for some reason.. this is definitely appreciated. I've got a trip to China (Intl Business) booked with my wife coming up in Oct - wife is booked with UA miles while I booked myself with US miles. I know UA will re-book her in first for me for no additional charge...but do you know if US would charge for re-booking?


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@ Zach -- While some agents don't charge the fee, they are supposed to charge the $150 fee at US Airways.


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(@jmd001)
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Ben--

Excellent tutorial.

Could you include a link to the Grease Monkey script that color codes the award/upgrade buckets with Bold Red for zero availability and Bold Green for non-zero? I've installed it, but failed to write down the details of how/where I got it. And "Search" on FT has so far failed me.


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 ffi
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I think it was Seth at the Wandering Aramean blog next door who had the script.
http://boardingarea.com/thewanderingaramean/2011/08/continental-expert-mode-now-on-steroids/


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(@jmd001)
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Thanks, @ffi. That's it.

I kept looking under "United" for the script, not "Continental". Silly me! 😀


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(@FortFun)
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@jmd001: or you could have looked up above, where Seth, you know, posted a link to it... 😉

Ben: one thing that might not be super clear in the post is that the economy buckets are non-duplicative. So Y9 B9 doesn't mean that they are willing to sell 18 seats, of which 9 are Y and 9 are B. It means they're willing to sell 9 seats, which can be either Y or B.

Might also want to point out the need for an underlying published fare to hook up with the buckets.


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(@rebecca)
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When selecting my Preferences which fare type should be selected? Right now I have Lowest Fare Available With Restrictions selected. Thanks!


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@ Rebecca D. -- That's what you'll want to keep it at.


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(@Carol)
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Thanks so much for this tutorial. I still have more questions about the upgrades. So, what happen if all of the First Class seats are still available and you mention that only R9, 9 seats are available for upgrade, is that mean that the rest of the First Class will be empty or those will be given to those with RPU or GPU instead of CPU's? I'll be flying on the Dreamliner at the end of Dec and there are still plenty of seats left. I don't know if I should take my changes or just use one of my RPU to confirm my upgrades?


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@ Carol -- Airlines are constantly adjusting their inventory. "9" is the most space that will display in any bucket, so it could be that there are 15 upgrade seats, but the most they'll show is "R9." But even if it's "R0" now it could be that it's "R9" tomorrow, as they're constantly playing with the space they release. So if the upgrade is important to you I'd confirm it with an RPU.


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(@TheEpicure)
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Unfortunately the Expert Mode seems to have disappeared.


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(@GretelNick)
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Volunteers are likely when F=0 and Y=??


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@ GretelNick -- Zero, ideally, which would mean the flight is sold out.


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(@GretelNick)
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@lucky - I hear you. I'm wondering if they oversell flights, will it say Y4 for instance but still be overbooked? Or do in fact most VDB actions being at Y=0?


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 ss04
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Hi Lucky, United.com is no longer making fare class clickable, anyway to use expertflyer to find R class availability?

Thanks!


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(@Lydia)
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Hi,
Do you have any insights on award tickets upgrades for United Club card holders? My husband (silver and united club card holder) and I (platinum) are flying to Brasil on an award business-first class ticket. If the plane is a 3-class plane... would that qualify us to be wait-listed for global upgrade?


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@ Lynda -- Unfortunately that applies to domestic flights only. Sorry.


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 Raj
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I am trying to book a domestic ticket in United. On the expert mode, here is the fare class that I see - F2, A2, JN2, C2, D2, Z0, ZN0, P0, PN0, R0, RN0, IN0, I0, Y9, YN9, B9, M9, E9, U9, H9, HN9, Q9, V9, W9, S9, T9, L9, K9, G9, N9, XN9, X9. When I search for flights by entering specific fare class, it shows no tickets available for any class below V. Why is it so?


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 Syed
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Hi - I have logged in to United website using my MP number. I don't see the expert mode or opt-in anywhere to see enable expert mode. Can someone please guide me to proper navigation.

Thanks.


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(@DonMinneapolis)
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What is the easiest way to get an upgrade on United on an international flight when your employer has paid for an economy ticket and you have to pay the difference between coach and business class?


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@ DonMinneapolis -- Assuming you don't have systemwide upgrades, your best bet is to use use miles plus pay a co-pay to try and lock in the upgrade. Good luck!


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(@DonMinneapolis)
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Lucky

Thank you. I just joined United's FF, so I don't have any miles yet. I have gobs of miles on KLM, but I don't believe there is any way to transfer between the two. Thanks again.


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@ DonMinneapolis -- Correct, unfortunately you can't. That being said, you could always apply for a credit card which earns United miles to start building up your mileage balance with them towards an upgrade. Some of them have 45,000+ mile sign-up bonuses.


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(@DonMinneapolis)
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Thanks. I also think you purchase upgrades with a credit card if I am not mistaken. Just trying to flesh out my options.


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(@SantaCruzRonnie)
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When you purchase an upgrade using a credit card, is the cost the same as if you had purchased that class of ticket to begin with?


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@ SantaCruzRonnie -- Sometimes, sometimes not. All depends on the circumstances.


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 BT
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If I have an award economy ticket H9 class on a 3 class United transatlantic flight, and on expert mode, it says F1, FN1, A0, ON0, O0, J9, JN9, C9, D9, Z9, ZN9, P0, PN0, R0, RN0, IN0, I0, Y9, YN9, B9, M9, E9, U9, H9, HN9, Q9, V0, W0, S0, T0, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0
is there a possibility this can be upgraded with more miles? Can I call and ask to be waitlisted with more miles?
Thanks.


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 BT
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Note: (Adding to post above), I have no status.
Thanks.


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@ BT -- You can only waitlist if you paid for the higher class of service already. In your shoes I'd keep an eye on availability, and if/when business class award space opens up you can make the switch.


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Hi!

Great article! Hoping you can provide some additional insight on where I should start for:

I have already booked and been ticketed for an United MileagePlus award itinerary with the following segments:

Seattle to Toronto on Air Canada in Econ
Toronto to Paris on Air Canada in Econ
Paris to Athens on Aegan Air in Biz Class
Athens to Instabul on Turkish Airlines in Biz Class
Istanbul to Houston on Turkish Airlines in Biz Class
Houston to Seattle on United Airlines in Econ Class

I would like to try and upgrade on my Toronto to Paris segment, but am confused on where to start...Should I call United or should I call Air Canada to discuss my options? Can you provide any additional details on what my best options might be?

Thanks!


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