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Travelers Arrested For Attempted $3,000 Hawaii Entry Bribe

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While we’ve seen all kinds of incidents of travelers trying to skip Hawaii’s testing or quarantine requirements, this is a new one for me…

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(@Roman)
Joined: 7 years ago

Posts: 69

Amazing how many people think the rules don't apply to them. Should have put them in jail for the week then sent them home pending covid test results.


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(@Dick Bupkiss)
Joined: 7 years ago

Posts: 298

Lock 'em up and throw away the key. Lifetime ban on everything.

It's not complicated. Unless people are punished -- and harshly -- a-holes will continue acting this way. People behave like shitheads because they expect no consequences. Need to change that perception, and that's going to take a big shift and a concerted effort.

Zero tolerance until the message starts to sink in. Make it hurt enough, and people will eventually notice.


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 Will
(@Will)
Joined: 6 years ago

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Dick Bupkiss needs a night out


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(@endre)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 476

Had to be Russians.


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(@DeePeeGrumps)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 146

I travel there (almost monthly these days) to live/work.
It's super easy to navigate their Covid state-entry system.
The toughest part is getting a pre-travel test but it's not impossible.
Hawaiian Airlines actually has their own system set-up for their passengers which is quick and cheap. I've used it twice, as well as the Costco/Azova remote monitoring test.
3 grand is literally 30 times the price of the Hawaiian Airlines test which is $90 bucks, plus you don't go to jail.


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(@Alex_77W)
Joined: 17 years ago

Posts: 196

"Getting tested within 72 hours of travel really isn’t that complicated, and airlines have even partnered with labs to offer at-home pre-travel testing kits"

- Have you try getting such a PCR test yourself from a qualified provider? It wasn't that easy it least back in Dec as mail-in tests were not always reliable in terms of meeting the deadline. Several providers in CA had disclaimers that they would not guarantee results in 72 hrs. Walgreens actually lost the test for my wife and she spent 2+ hrs on the phone to sort this out (the test was finally found).


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 Pete
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Joined: 9 years ago

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I can’t speak to CA, but the expreschek JFK test was super quick. I drove there on my lunch break got a quick swab and knew the results within 15min. They give you a Hawaii formatted negative result in paper form and PDF file so you can immediately upload to the Hawaii portal.
$200 expensive but beats what these guys did.


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 Mark
(@Mark)
Joined: 12 years ago

Posts: 269

Not sure how they got on the plane. I know in Seattle you have to show the test results to fly.


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 Ole
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Joined: 9 years ago

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I don’t condone but I don’t get limiting covid testing to only trusted partners. Unfortunately, many states have very limited trusted partners snd no ability for airport or airline testing. Neither DTW nor DL offers this.


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(@Ruby Merritt)
Joined: 6 years ago

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As a Kupuna (senior) in the State of Hawaii, please can our Government Officials explain how people are boarding flights and exposing those who followed the rules to COVID 19 "being allowed to board any flights" Period?????


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 SK
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Joined: 8 years ago

Posts: 126

Endre, want a lawsuit delivered to your doorstep?


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 Kel
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Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 1

There will always be people trying to slide past rules. Good luck with that traveling to Hawaii because the hotels, as well as the residence will turn you in for trying to skip out on quarantine. Good on Hawaii!


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(@Joe Chivas)
Joined: 10 years ago

Posts: 119

I guess they should have offered more.


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(@Mark S.)
Joined: 8 years ago

Posts: 159

They may have been exposed and known it. The test requirement is too easy to feel you have to bribe your way around unless you think you might fail the test.

No sympathy here!!


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(@Karrie)
Joined: 9 years ago

Posts: 9

We have a home in Georgia and a home in Maui with a construction company.
We fly to and from every 2 weeks. What is the use of the pre-covid test if your on a plane with people who haven't been tested and who have to quarantined for 10 days? The residents of Hawaii are so afraid of tourists bringing in the virus well the tourists aren't the problem its the government. Just dumbfounded by this.

A weird thing also Hawaii does at DFW we have to show our id at the gate before boarding. Doesn't make sense. They say its a Hawaii law but you can't get through security without proper id??

I applaud keeping the virus away but they shouldn't allow anyway who haven't been tested on. Just dumbfounded by this. While they're checking id's at the gate they should demand to see their negative test results.


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 Will
(@Will)
Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 28

This is becoming tremendously lame. Chill out everyone


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(@docntx)
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(@Julian128)
Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 1

Open up the economy!


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(@Chris)
Joined: 13 years ago

Posts: 63

@Ole: It makes it easier for the health reviewers to verify that the results are from a valid test, since all of the trusted testing partners have agreed to submit results on a standardized form. Only certain types of tests are accepted, and limiting testing to a few partners who are known to provide those tests and who agree to provide results in the standardized format makes it much easier to process than trying to sort through forms from every pharmacy, clinic or other testing provider in the country, which in turn would make falsification much easier.

I agree the state should be working harder to expand its list of testing partners, though since so many locals are already wary of any visitors in the first place, making it easier to visit is a tough sell politically.


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(@turkfresser)
Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 12

3k is bribe while 3m is called Party funding


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 Dave
(@Dave)
Joined: 6 years ago

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Lock em all up just like the politicians who have been busted breaking the rules. Newsome and Cuomo both should be in a dark hole also then. Else it's rules for thee but not for me.


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(@Commenting Commenter)
Joined: 7 years ago

Posts: 89

@Dick Bupkiss Agreed! But people then come back about real consequences and punishments with "my rights, rabble rabble rabble, they're being inhumane, rabble rabble rabble, they're not compassionate, rabble rabble rabble, too harsh, rabble rabble rabble, cruel, rabble rabble rabble, people need second/third/(infinite) chances." You know… They way it is nowadays that everyone thinks they deserve a pass on everything.


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(@William Wilkie)
Joined: 6 years ago

Posts: 1

The thing about people claiming 'rights' is they forget other people also have the same rights. This means conflict unless all rights holders accept 'RESPONSIBILITIES' which are never mentioned.

For those who claim these do not apply to them think about obeying traffic rules, paying your income tax, sending your kids to educational facilities, not killing too many innocent people, etc. We are all forced to accept limits on our activies.

As to penalties the most effective way is by financial penalty. If a speeding fine was an automatic minimum $1500 there would probably be fewer speeders. Also saving in lives, hospital and medical costs and lifetime misery for the survivors and families. No jail time which is expensive to the community but just a lifetime paying off the debts. Also surrender of passport so offenders cannot skip the country.


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