There’s an exciting update for Hong Kong International Airport (HKG), as it has just become a much more competitive global aviation hub.
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They made everyone pay a extra fee for the construction of this new runway since 2016. Jerks
Airport Construction Fee
The Airport Construction Fee (ACF) is collected on air tickets issued on or after 1 August 2016 as part of the financial arrangement for the three-runway system (3RS).
Flight traffic at HKG declined significantly since COVID. 2023 was just 2/3 of 2019.
It’ll be awhile before they need all that extra capacity.
American won’t fly back to HKG and increase mainland China until at least 2026. It will depend on US China relations and if western businesses return.
Beijing is slowly strangling the golden Hong Kong goose. Luxury housing is being discounted for what is probably the first time ever, and Singapore has become a much more attractive (and less oppressive) place to do business. It's still a vibrant, exciting city to visit, but if I were establishing an Asia-Pacific HQ, why would I go there instead of Singapore or Sydney?
Sydney?
Better call it an Oceania HQ.
But you're right, Singapore is probably the most attractive to set up an APAC HQ.
HK - say no more.
Tokyo - Carlos Ghosn would like to join the conversation.
Seoul - not sure whether would they even have any people left in next few decades.
The rest - too small/weak to be set up an HQ. Or too far.
HK would still remain as an attractive tourist destination, until 2047 when the One Country Two System ends.
The leading zero is only dropped before runway numbers in the United States. Hong Kong would call them 07/25.
The leading zero is only dropped before runway numbers in the United States. Hong Kong would call them 07/25.
It's not a leading zero, it's a following zero, and it indicates directional heading: "07/25" = 70degrees or 250degrees.
The designations don't change by country, as they're based on magnetic north.
Given the changing business landscape due to china’s increasing control of HK I’d be surprised if there is much of an increase in demand. I’d imagine if it weren’t for this project having already started 3 years before 2019, they would have thought differently about starting it today.
More and more is shifting to SIN, even though it is quite a bit further from most business hubs, which is a testament to how much HK is in decline. Korea really missed an opportunity.
Asia-Pacific covers Sydney, and I agree with the rest of your points. Honkers is done.
Sorry mate, "Asia-Pacific" is a term invented to make Australians feel part of the party. Suggesting Sydney as replacement for HK is like suggesting Sao Paolo as a replacement for New York.
No.
Once Covid and Carrie Lam got involved, Honkers became permanently less attractive as a business hub AND a tourist destination.
I miss Kai Tak too, but the new airport was sorely needed.
For what it's worth, a lot of people who moved to Singapore during COVID have come back to HK, which to a lot of people (myself included) still feels much freer and certainly more dynamic than Singapore. To quote Chris Patten, the last British Governor of HK: "No one has ever made money betting against Hong Kong". Of course he has lately changed his tune, and it's a fool's errand to bet where this is all going, including HKG, not to mention the world at large.
No pay for future facilities you are not currently using because you are just visiting Hong Kong.
Like I did.
But it makes sense because all the locals in Hong Kong are rude. Go there if you want to get yelled at.
I visited HK for the first time in 2014 and loved it. Now, ten years later, I doubt I’ll ever go back. Thanks China for snuffing out the democratic and capitalist center of SE Asia.
If you flew into HKG, then you used the service, thus you paid for it. Are you really struggling to comprehend this simple concept?
"and it's a fool's errand to bet where this is all going"
What are you talking about? There's no question where this is going. China is going to increasingly assert itself over HK until there's practically no difference between it and any other mainland city, be that 1947 or sooner, and there's really nothing that anyone can do about it.
It's amazing how Carrie Lam managed to be radically unpopular with both the pro-Freedom AND the pro-China camp. It's really quite the feat.
@OT that’s interesting people going back to HK from Singapore… I spend a fair amount of time in Singapore (only visiting though) and haven’t ever really felt it being repressive - rule of thumb is be respectful and I don’t know of any issues. Interesting HK would be considered ‘freer’ these days.
Nearly every major city hotel charges some sort of convention center fee - whether a guest is staying to visit the convention center or not. Many airports charge concession fees on rental cars for future airport development projects. I think the practice is very common
The initial comment was correct; Hodor was referring to the leading zero in 07, not the trailing digit, which could be anything from zero to nine.
In the US, that runway would be referred to as 7/25, whereas in the rest of the world it would be 07/25, with a leading zero.
Trying to ignore pure politcs -
HK airport has a lot it could be improving besides capacity. E.g. its transfer capabilities and general comfort levels for passengers compared to SIN.
It is a fantastic airport vs anything in europe, but it has SIN on its doorstep and unless flying CX then most airlines have a choice use one or other as a transit stop or have an arrangement with SQ or a OW airlines and make SIN the stopover, which many are now doing.
CX need to have the ability to become a strategic player akin to a national airline (which is not the case today), or HKG has problems.
Some actual numbers/data would be helpful here. The likelihood inflows back to HK are anything near to outlflows (to SG and elsewhere) is very unlikely, said as someone who would love to see HK thriving but anecdotal and real data would suggest otherwise.
"SIN on its doorstep"...it is four hours away, equivalent to the distance of crossing all of Europe. It's a huge diversion south for a lot of traffic moving from Europe to Asia or North America to Asia, although SIN is admittedly competitively positioned for Australia. Feel like people need to keep this more in mind when talking about competition between these airports, and between CX and SQ.
It is neither in Southeast Asia nor was it the "democratic center" of East or Southeast Asia when you were there, but you were fine with all the limitations on democracy then apparently.
A lot of very underinformed commentary here that demonstrate people don't follow things in HK that closely. There have been mostly inflows since 2022 when Covid controls were still on.
An airport with one of the most dangerous landings in the world and virtually no capacity for expansion?
Singapore hasn't changed and hasn't become "less oppressive." Just ask the relatives of the founding and recent Prime Ministers who have had to flee abroad to avoid persecution by the state.
This thread is unfortunately full of ignorance and it feels like people haven't been reading news about Hong Kong since Covid. The city's population is back up since the outmigrations of the immediate aftermath of the imposition of the National Security Law and Covid controls and Cathay Pacific is doing much, much better than anyone expected. Hong Kong is also plugging into a lot more business opportunities in other markets more actively than it had in the past, when it was overreliant on connecting China and the West. The premature obituaries proved unfounded and you would think that would lead people to reevaluate how they feel about the future as well.
4 hours direct between the two yes, that has nothing to do with transit routes!
@David HK is in East Asia. Not a part of Southeast Asia. Geography 101, dude. Haha.
@TW Honkers??? That word you are using actually means something that honks or a person’s nose.