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Wild ATC Audio: Pilot Can't Control Aircraft, "I'm Fighting This Thing"

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I often share air traffic control audio from emergency situations. More often than not, the pilots remain outwardly calm, no matter how serious the situation is. Well, here’s one of the most extreme audio recordings that I’ve ever heard (at least for a situation that ultimately had a positive outcome).

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Diamond
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If it was misrigged, some mechanic’s license is on the line.


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Diamond
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Truth be told? …. It might have been a Max he was flying and not a Citation …. 🙂


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Diamond
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…. and I thought that it was the old and defunct kites like my AOP.6 which still needed to the rigged Tim …. 🙂


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 Trey
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Welcome to Florida…


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(@Sara W.)
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Miami Center: "Fly heading 310 ... There's a Southwest plane on a 7 mile final"

Um, no. I'm flying a downwind, base, and final. I'm an emergency aircraft - I'm going to pretty much shut up on the radio so you can do your job and just get everyone out of my way, including telling precious Southwest to go around (which, in fairness, they essentially and finally did).

Seriously! In an emergency situation - especially with an unknown flight control problem where maintaining aircraft control is in doubt - you don't ask for permission with an altitude, heading, or course. You tell ATC what you are doing, and do it. This is not the time to take any delay vectors for their convenience.


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(@Brodie)
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Flight control rigging should never be an issue. Someone signed that off and is about to have their license suspended and or pulled.


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(@Boris Levitan)
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Scary. Given the cause suspected by the pilot on the radio, reminiscent of this incident https://youtu.be/XOh87e7dX-E?si=vLNttFuNcaYcw4Ix wherein the Russian Defence Dept bought a fleet of Tupolev Tu-154 from an airline, stored them long-term, and rehabilitated the airframe in the video to use for smaller cargo/staff capacity than an Ilyushin IL-76. A universal connector that could be plugged in upside down, was. Nearly fatal Dutch roll resulted, in which corrective inputs amplified rather than dampened the problem. The pilots were able to learn and land back at Chkalovsky Airfield without injury. The plug was redesigned so as to be pluggable only correct side up.


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(@Donato)
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Memory reminds me of an Eastern L-1011 that left Bahamas? on a short jump to MIA. One by one all 3 engines died, ultimately because some fool changed a filter or such and forgot to replace gaskets, 3 times.
I also remember an incident not often discussed where a LH 320 post maintenance kept responding opposite directions to input from the First officer but fortunately not the pilot. I believe it was a mechanic error but also a design flaw.


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 Bob
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If you want people to pay attention to safety videos just play this during boarding.


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 Matt
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I had the same thought!


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 John
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This feels completely unhandled and reeks of incompetence. Most ATC directions after emergency declared sound unsure. Other traffic is still being vectored in for landing at FLL even though they acknowledged there is an “unknown emergency inbound”. What on earth are these controllers doing?? There is only one appropriate response…all traffic go-around, ground stop. The field belongs to 2TD and he can take a piss on the runway for all they should care. Period.


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