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Air Canada Resuming Flights, As Flight Attendant Strike Ends

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It looks like Air Canada will be gradually resuming flights as of today. Hopefully this goes more smoothly than Sunday’s failed attempted at resuming flights.

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(@Eskimo)
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They just told the flight attendants that if they don't go back to work, the airline would be sold to Donald Trump.

Renamed to Air 51 and mainly used to deport immigrants.


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Diamond
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as they say, the devil is in the details. I suspect the government did push both on AC and CUPE to bend but CUPE would have just caved if it did not gain for some of the non-flight time compensation it is asking.

This all served as a huge, costly inconvenience to many Canadians and a big boon for Canadian airlines non-named Air Canada while US airlines have carried - and will through the weekend - a bunch of extra traffic they weren't counting on at the tail end of the summer season.


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(@Mike R.)
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Proud of my union colleagues on this one. Clear demonstration of how as workers if we organize, bargain collectively, and stand our ground (even against an attempt at government intervention) we can win.

And before you complain about higher prices, it doesn't necessarily mean that. Any number of options are available to a company, including taking fewer share buybacks, slightly lower profits, or pay executives a bit less. In a competitive market, prices will probably still compete with WestJet and others, but execs might not make as many millions. I'm sure the CEO hates that, but the rest of us are not too worried about it.


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Diamond
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Yeah, gotta give major kudos to CUPE for sticking to its guns here even in the face of govt meddling - glad to see that it worked.


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 WWTW
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Curious if anyone has any insight on how the back to work will effect existing flights. AC has said it will take a week to get back to normal operations but I don't know what that means. For instance, I have flights booked for this weekend and next weekend. Neither of which were cancelled to this point. Is there still a chance they could be effected by the gradual return to operations? Could I be bumped for stranded passengers. Not a complaint, just not sure how this works. Thanks!


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(@portlanjuanero)
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I'm going to bet the turning point was the government's shockingly late acknowledgement of potential unpaid labour under Canadian labour laws. At that point AC knew they would lose that one, one way or another, and the government would have likely had to have slapped a giant fine to appease public approval should they complete the investigation. Everyone will say this was a compromise (which it is ...) but objectively the union won more.


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Diamond
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airlines very rarely bump confirmed passengers in order to accommodate passengers whose flight was previously cancelled.

There is enough capacity in the Canadian and US air transportation systems to clear the backlog but not necessarily on the same day.

I imagine that full flights will be the norm for anything touching Canada or nearby US cities and hubs through next Monday or Tuesday - which is about the time that AC says it will begin to operate a stable schedule.


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 DenB
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These decisions will be made on the fly. Pun intended. Watch FlightAware, the AC app and cbc.ca. Be prepared to fly as scheduled and be prepared to spend untold hours at the airport. All medicines in carry-on!


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 DenB
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I thought the flight would last a week! Not sure how morale will be, with binding arbitration, but one gets the sense that the sticking points are a bit icky for the company's position. CUPE played their hand well, Hajdu overplayed hers with the instant order, and now with arbitration, the adults have control again.


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(@Hi Waitress)
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Everyone basically hates flight attendants. And the good thing? They did it to themselves.

Every last one of you reading this: you did it to yourselves. You have fewer qualifications than a diner waitress, yet you play all high and mighty.

We want to see you fired, poor, punished. And yes, you will still serve me my gin/tonic and you will like it. And you will say thanks.


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(@Hi Waitress)
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lol, unpaid. They're way overpaid.

There's 100s of applicants per job. You could offer 8 dollars an hour and no nonrev benefits and easily fill the jobs.


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(@Not Scott)
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I don't think anyone is getting effected. That would imply them getting k1lled.

They may be affected, though.


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 Sam
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Yet the airline caved in the face of your "counter offer" post. You don't know what you're talking about.


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(@Hi Waitress)
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Oh look, a woman with a non-argument. Thank you, Sammyline.

What we do know for a fact is there's a HUGE supply of sky waitresses and very little demand.

We don't need them. Just fire them all.


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(@globetrotter)
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Just two days ago, the union leader declared he'd go to jail to keep the strike in place. Today, he relented and retreated because he ain't want to go to jail and the union will deplete its coffer by facing a steep daily fine. I am glad the union decided not to follow the path becoming a lawless poster boy the American way.
The government has no role in the bargaining table between Air Canada and its FA union. The public support will erode when the strike impacts its travel plans and escalates the economic woes. To those who demean the FA, name any qualifications required to run for public office, especially lawmakers and presidents (except president candidates must be native born). It is mind-boggling that the majority of lawmakers have no background in law,no education, training and experience, and are tasked to introduce and pass laws.

www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2025/8/18/air-canada-strike-continues-suspends-financial-guidance

/www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/8/19/air-canada-to-resume-operations-after-cabin-crew-strike-ends


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(@This comes to mind)
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You do realize that if you take the AC CEO's total compensation and divide by the number of AC employees, you get CA$6.51 per week? You imagine there's a lot more in executive compensation relative to company size. Of course if only FAs should get to "steal from the rich," they're up to 2 coffees a week per FA. [$12.08 million in 23-24, 35,680 employees as of 12/23】


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(@bossa)
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" Welcome aboard Air BDSM !" .....


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(@bossa)
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The no non-rev bennies might be more of a deal breaker in recruiting $8/hour F/A's ...
Really not necessary as the only cost to the airline is pax weight & maybe a soft drink for an otherwise empty seat. The non-rev benefit is virtually worthless these days as far as US airlines are concerned with their high load factors anyway...


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 Dan
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Delta's Passenger Load Factor for the quarter ending June 2025 was 86 %. This is for all flights and higher on more popular routes. I suspect there is not a lot of spare capacity on Delta or any other US airliner on many of the routes used by people who would normally take Air Canada. Anecdotally, IcelandAir has done OK with returning passengers from European destinations to Canada as people could land at an American airport (flights directly from Europe to Canada either sold out quickly or cost a fortune last minute) and transit on a US carrier or Porter to a Canadian destination and its fares while high were lower than other big carriers that service the Atlantic routes. The Canadian market is not terribly competitive. WestJet does not fly conveniently to most of the European destinations that Air Canada services as it has consolidated out of Calgary, which is just north of Denver geographically. To fly from Toronto, Air Canada's hub which geographically is close to Detroit, to Heathrow for example, via WestJet you would have to backtrack four hours to Calgary then take a longer flight to London. Domestically within the Canada the situation is even more dire. Smaller markets may be only be served by one of the carriers, if at all. I suspect WestJet and Porter have had extra traffic but not enough to move the third quarter earnings much. There do not seem to be any big winners out of this event. Air Canada, the Flight Attendants, the Passengers, and the government are not basking in glory over this. Other airliners likely will have some extra revenue, but likely not enough to even offset one bad weather event in the winter. Two weeks of chaos after eight months of "bargaining" for this.


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(@Parnel)
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It wasnt the union that relented.
Scum AC management came with their tails tucked between their legs after their only plan of having the govt intervene failed and AC started losing 80M a day.


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 Ross
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For those who are not too concerned with what Air Canada conceded, keep in mind that flight attendants at United Airlines last month voted down a $6-billion tentative labor agreement, which did not provide compensation for time on the ground before and after flights. The union is surveying its members before returning to bargaining in December.


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 Mark
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Everyone requests that you speak only for yourself.


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(@Alan123)
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Hateful troll comment is also laughably incorrect. Everyone does not hate flight attendants in fact the overwhelming majority of the Canadian public were on their side during this strike. And they didn't "do" anything to themselves....they got a deal of what they wanted and they will now be paid pre-pushback.


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(@Not Scott)
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Mark, no women are going to look your way because of your performative left wing statements.

Pipe down, boi.


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(@Dusty)
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@This comes to mind
You do realize that there's more overpaid c-suites than just the Chief Executive Officer (CEO), and that Air Canada just spent $500 million buying back its own stock right? There's money to go around, execs just prefer to use it to puff the stock price to increase their own compensation and make Wall Street KPIs look good, instead of investing in the people that make the business possible to begin with.


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