Well, now I’ve seen it all. The newest airline in the United States is Red Way, which will operate flights exclusively out of Lincoln, Nebraska. In reality Red Way is just a paper airline, as flights will be operated by charter carrier Global Crossing Airlines. Hmm…
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You'd be surprised how quickly $3M can be burned through, especially for mainline
On the name and business model, I imagine that this is geared towards the University of Nebraska, located in Lincoln. Nebraska's sports teams are affectionally known as "Big Red", hence the branding, and the low prices would be very appealing to students. I could be very wrong, but it all fits together well enough.
This may well be (especially given the name) of providing more seamless flights to Lincoln given the home of University of Nebraska, the huge alumni population that fly there for sporting events etc, and serving the growing population of Lincoln. It's a surprisingly ok small city. The name, Red Way, is clearly a play on appealing to Huskers fans. Honestly, many there find themselves driving to Omaha to fly anywhere so providing better non-stops to key markets, even twice a week, may not be a bad idea.
We had the same thought! That makes me feel better about this being potentially right. I wonder if the university will have skin in the game...
Big bucks in transporting 'pre shucked' corn.
A 1 airplane airline running 2 r/t a day needs what? 4 pilots, 5 FAs?, 2-4 ground staff, and a few IT/customer support people? Even if the planes are half empty, that 3MM subsidy is probably plenty to make it 'profitable'.
No one on OMAAT knows the response to this but here it goes ;
Goooooooo! Biiiiiiiiiig ! Reeeeeeeeeeed!
It is strange. As hinted at in the article, LNK used to have more service, including Delta, but is now down to just United. The Omaha airport (OMA) is only an hour away, has been growing consistently, and is served by the 4 big domestics, plus Alaska and Frontier. There used to be an Air Canada flight to Toronto, but I don't see today. Maybe seasonal?
The Red Way destinations don't make sense for university sports purposes, but seem aimed at leisure travel.
This is a sign from the higher powers that Nebraska has finally struck gold on what seems like their 5th "can't miss" football head coach hire
Ben - so to properly understand this you need to understand the local market a bit. LNK is less than sixty miles from OMA (Omaha), and the drive from airport to airport takes about 45 minutes (freeway essentially the whole way). People from Lincoln will drive to Omaha for cheaper fares (and not even much cheaper - like $100) and the existing low-cost carriers don't want to serve LNK when they can capture LNK fliers by serving the larger OMA market. And the legacy carriers at LNK have a hard time maintaining the fare levels they need to match their costs.
The LNK airport used to also have DL service until recently - which even DL said was profitable, but they pulled out primarily due to regional airline staffing issues.
So the airport is trying something creative. We'll see - I'm skeptical (think this will undercut their ability to attract real carriers). But I give them credit for thinking differently.
(born and raised in Lincoln)
GBR. Great breakdown, LNK can cover 1.5 million within an hours drive. A few of these routes aren't covered by OMA year around as well. To me the demand will be there, more of a question of will this be a competent airline
I was able to make a booking with a test credit card number (4111 1111 1111 1111) and I got a confirmation at the end. Not sure how serious they can be if they're not even validating CC's
I'm thinking about booking the inaugural AUS-LNK. I've always wanted to be the only passenger on a plane.
I bought a ticket on the first flight LNK-MCO. And I have a ticket on the first Northern Pacific flight a few days prior. This shall be an interesting week for sure. Probably should book a Southwest or two as back-ups as an escape route.
As we've seen in the past, LNK has tried other airlines and destinations. As soon as the subsidies are gone so was the carrier. I give the over and under at 8 months.
This concept is very similar to some college student who told me in the 1970's that Lincoln had new airport facilities and was about to be a major airport with many new routes. Another college student laughed.
3 million from the government, yet we continue to run trillion dollar deficits. I was not a President Carter fan, but at least he tried to cut off much of the gravy.
Maybe if you live on the very northeast side of town it’s 45 or 50 minutes. For 75% of Lincoln that is easily over 1 hour drive without factoring traffic.
Ha! I flew SkyBus once…made Allegiant feel like LH F. Although unlike Lincoln, Columbus was heavily serviced when SkyBus tried to make a run.
Yea,
Florida Express Jet tried this a few years ago.
Pretend to be a real airline while having a charter outfit (Phoenix based Swift Air) operate your flights. Same thing, all the promo photos showed a 737 in Florida Express colors, while the lone actual aircraft was to remain in Swift's colors. At least both schemes featured purple.
Being Florida (Tampa) raised but at the time Phoenix based, I wanted to book the inaugural flight. Luckily, the DoT shut them down before I booked.
What I didn't know at the time was that the FAA has a new 'chapter' of air regulations that relates to charter airlines offering the same charter flights on a regular basis (essentially, 'charter' flights that are 'scheduled').
JSX is the only airline I know of that has successfully started a 'scheduled charter' operation.
WONDERFUL airline by the way !!
Where JSX differs from Red Way and Florida Express Jet is that they are both the 'marketing' and 'operating' carrier.
IMHO:
JSX passes DoT scrutiny because they're not just a paper airline relying on someone else to run the flights via a loophole. They're a charter outfit that happens to 'charter' the same flights themselves day after day, more in lines with the newer FAA chapter (Part 880 ?? ... off the top of my head). Indeed, once you click 'purchase' on the JSX website, you're asked to acknowledge that your booking a ('spare') seat on a charter flight.
I really want to have direct air service to a few other cities - Austin being one. OMA is not that far but it is a bigger deal, especially when the weather is iffy. I am somewhat of a skeptic and a cynic, however. And when money is offered by the feds, regardless of good intentions, there are always those with smarts, resources, and connections to take advantage.
Allegiant DID start in LNK 1st…then pulled it & moved to Grand Island as it was much cheaper for Allegiant,
I tend to agree it will not last…
Googled “book Red Way airlines” & couldn’t find a link.
Had to be creative & discovered the website to book is goflyred.com.
Who in their marketing dept. thought that was a great idea??!!
Growing up in small town Nebraska and now living in Phoenix, not everybody wants to have to drive to the far side of Omaha even for being able to catch a cheap flight on Southwest. Heck I lived in Omaha before my move and didn't like the drive from west O to the airport and it was only 10 to 15 minutes shorter than the Lincoln airport. To get a little closer to home...anybody west of Lincoln, has to pay around 300 bucks more to fly into/ou of Lincoln. That is just too much and it's definitely too much if you are just wanting a quick get-a-way weekend or flying with a family. Flying into Grand Island is an option a couple days a week on Allegiant but those flights fill up fast. (GI is a small airport about an hour and a half west of Lincoln.) And as some have already commented, don't underestimate the power of the Big Red! If it means coming into town and getting a Lyft instead of rental car from Omaha, then heck yea! And don't think they didn't have that in mind when they named their company! GBR!!!
I agree! Two biggest, Vegas and Nashville for bday and bachelor/ette parties and if they can throw in extra routes for away games, they could make it! Grand Island flights are always full so those that can't get one there can book for Lincoln.
So, two things to note:
-First, I can't get a copy of their seatmaps on their website, and there's no indication of what "Business Seats" means. Likewise, no indication as to what the in-flight food/beverage situation is for various booking options.
-Second, this reminds me eerily of the PEOPLExpress mess at PHF, which has all sorts of things in common with LNK both in terms of the airport (PHF is a smaller airport with two bigger/busier airports within about an hour or so) and in terms of the business model being dependent on local grants.
PEOPLExpress lasted about three months, but might have lasted a bit longer before the cash ran out depending on how you interpret the two incidents that led them to shut down (one plane was allegedly hit by a vendor's truck [but given the extended shutdown I never heard about any litigation vs the vendor, so I've always scratched my head on this one]; the other had "an unspecified maintenance issue" per Wikipedia).
TL;DR: I give them six months, maybe a year depending on how the revenue guarantees are set up.
The hope in the business model has to be that they will be filling the Airbus A320/321 planes. That sounds like a "duh," but these are significantly larger than commercial carriers have used at LNK; and a full A320 has to be more profitable to run than a 50 passenger Bombardier regional jet. The schedule they set up is clearly designed for Nebraska tourists to go to the 7 cities, so they really did not set up LNK as a hub in the traditional sense, people will not be flying from Austin to Orlando via LNK. You can only fly from any of the 7 cities to Lincoln (vast majority of whom are returning to Lincoln). As mentioned, because these are technically "Charter" flights, the model can more collapsible and adjustable. Probably a couple of the routes get more frequency, while a couple probably drop within six months or so. They probably could also add in special flights for events in Lincoln should "reverse" tourism (remember, we're talking 1-2 round trip flight per week, it would NOT take a lot of reverse tourism) turn out to be marketable. (Pinnacle Bank Arena events, for example)
Love it!!! Inaugural flight from Lincoln to Austin was the easiest flight experience ever. From booking, check-in, onboarding, flight, to baggage claim. Seamless.
My son booked 9 tickets with Redway to take his family to Disney World for Christmas. A few days later their tickets were cancelled and he has yet to get any money back! Such a SCAM! He is out almost $3000. So unprofessional. Very poor business practice. Someone needs to be accountable. Everyone is passing the buck here. No one is being helpful or accountable! Do not use any airline associated with Redway!