Trkiye’s Directorate General of Civil Aviation has just implemented some new aviation regulations, and Turkish Airlines is the first to update its announcements to reflect these new policies. I suspect these are empty threats, but it’s still interesting to see an airline add this to its standardized announcements.
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Count me with VFTW as someone who stands up as soon as the plane gets to the gate
https://www.pointswithacrew.com/you-should-stand-up-as-soon-as-the-plane-lands-like-i-do/
It's getting more common in the US as well to stand up as the flight is taxiing. A few weeks ago I was on an SFO-IAD flight that was late and several passengers (including me) had a very tight connection.
As soon as the plane landed, there were people in the back that started to open up overhead bins and the F/A had to yell at them over the PA that she was going to have the pilot stop the aircraft. This led to other passengers yelling at the offenders to sit the **** down.
Sadly, entitlement and "the rules don't apply to me" is here in the US as well.
Gary from VFTW is a selfish fool. It is best to be on the other side of any issue than him.
No problem with standing immediately after the seat belt sign goes off. Some people like me just want to stretch out. Now trying to cut in front of others is a different story.
Behaviors, something that happens in the US as well, and VTFW mentioned.
The fake lawyer will again appear with three different profiles - Arps, Davis Polk and IH8GARYLEFF - soon.
A biglaw partner has that much time to brag about his achievements and lecture hypocrisy on a travel website, just like how everyone in the industry does.
We'll see. I spend a lot of time in Turkey and just recently flying domestically from Konya, I saw one Turkish guy stand up and start taking his bags out while the plane was still taxiing. The TA stewardess told him to sit down whereas he argued that he stood up because the baby his wife was holding was crying which had nothing to do with why he would stand up and start taking his bags out early. After that, the stewardess just let it go and let him carry on. So, they let a lot of things go on TA and I'm skeptical of any of those policies being enforced very much just because now you have more things in writing. One time I also asked a TA stewardess if she could tell the guy behind me to stop watching videos on his cell phone during flight without ear phones because it was really loud and annoying. She refused to even talk to him and just suggested I move to a different seat. TA is really lackadaisical with enforcing rules and etiquette compared to other major airlines.
Luckily not a big issues in the near term as Turkish have stopped flying to the genocidal state of Israel.
Turkey can do one, once the seatbelt light goes off I'm not staying sat down.
One of the absolute most irritating things when flying economy is when you have someone sat in the aisle seat that just stays sat down, blocking everyone else in the row from getting their bag.
Its kindof self inflicted if you think about it. Had they not killed civilians, the whole thing wouldnt have started?
It's definitely wild to see the rush of people once a TK plane parks. Now I know just to step in the aisle immediately or plan on waiting.
You want to get up fast, get an aisle seat in the front. But if you're stuck in last row windows seat, that's your problem.
Or like what woke snowflakes like to say. My body my choice.
Curious as to who is going to enforce this. Certainly not the TA's unless they are willing to be aggressive and confrontational with passengers. As for unfastening the seat belt before the aircraft has come to a complete stop, how would anyone know that you did this? I agree people should wait their turn to deboard, but these rules are probably not going to stop those that want to unbuckle their seat belt, stand up, and start moving towards the front of the aircraft.
I was on an Air France flight between LHR and CDG a couple weeks ago, and we were crossing the boundary from the taxiway onto the runway about to take off. The flight was quite empty, and this one lady got up and tried to switch seats to sit next to her husband for takeoff across the aisle. She got up nonchalantly, and the FA immediately yelled at her at full volume in French. I was looking out the runway and the FA scared the s*** out of me. It was quite funny to see the lady get yelled at though lol. She was sorry and immediately sat down. We took off about 4 minutes later after standing on the runway for a bit. I don't know if it was because of that incident, but it might have been because we were on an A220, and the previous takeoff was a JAL heavy A350-1000 bound for Tokyo. It was a bit of a long wait though, so I assume the former had to do with that (especially since this was at LHR, where I assume they don't want a jet sitting on the runway blocking it).
During Covid time, disembarking by rows was the mandatory rule. Everyone was following that, it never was that fast to get the **** out of a plane. All airlines should implement it again. Then, I would leave to purser’s discretion, in case of late arrival, suggesting those passengers risking to misconnect to disembark first, after appropriate paging.
"Aircraft etiquette norms in Benghazi, Damascus, and Ouagadougou, differ from those in Boston, Denver, and Oslo" - what an incredibly racist thing to say! /s
If the rules are literal and are enforced to the letter, won't deplaning take a lot longer? e.g. Using a narrowbody Y as an example: six people stand up and retrieve six bags from overhead bins, only once they start moving forward then another six people stand up and retrieve six bags from overhead bins, and so on.
Agreed... especially for the vast majority of pax ridiculously confined in 'roach' !!
Edit the announcement down to include something like 'sudden stops' .. and have the pilot quickly slam on the brakes, so that those non-compliant fools get a rude awakening (as long as they don't compromise the dwindling seated civilized pax !) ... Also an announcement & potential fine/prosecution for all non-compliant behavior should sadly be mandatory for all pax, including US airlines...
I'd go one further and say some languages don't even have a word for 'etiquette' or 'norms' ! ..lol
The Faa has identified five hazardous attitudes. Two of them are anti authority and invulnerability. They have consequences for air crews and as a pilot, IMHO, should have consequences for spoiled a** customers too.
Indian passengers will not travel on
TK flights due to their support to pakistan
This frankly is taking it a bit too far...in the end..
Who cares first world problem
There is nothing racist in the examples the author gave. Much depends on culture. Regardless of city.
Where do you have to go? It is so stupid to see people get up and stand in the aisles waiting for the jet bridge to arrive. It is hilarious when the there is an issue with the jet bridge and they are standing there for 10, 15, 20 mins. Idiots.
Maybe they should set up a fine for boarding as well. Normally it like a cattle call boarding in Istanbul.
On a recent flight to Houston on United, people were getting up to queue at the exit while the plane was still on the taxiway waiting for its turn to the ramp. The purser had to make several announcements, but people still wanted to get up.
There are people like this everywhere. People generally lack discipline and patience. I see this when I drive in Canada too. Everyone rushing for a red light. It just makes no sense.
I’ve never flown Turkish but I’ve flown to various destinations and various carriers. The number 1 thing I can guarantee when the plane lands regardless of who flew it or where it landed: is that most passengers are going to be eager to get up off it immediately. From my travels: MOST passengers are willing to wait until the plane is parked but not wait until the jet bridge is connected or stairs pulled up.
I think the thing that gets weird is disembarkation priority. Mind you, this is probably a US/Canada thing given the stupid security re-clearing in e.g. Europe when connecting, but I know things get weird when you've got a late flight and tight connections.
This same practise has strictly been implemented on some South Aftica registrred airlines and works perfectly well. Disembarking is orderly and quicker. However, no threats of punishments for non-compliance are made. Crew stand s in the aisles and direct disembarkation. Passengers comply.
Thank you so much Turkish Airlines! Who will enforce this new rule post landing? The flight attendants are not police officers in the sky. Actually the way to stop the obnoxious passengers from pushing others is for the flight attendants to stand in the corridor and let people know when they can pass. This would prevent the bullies from trying to push through. Also, ask your flight attendants via online staff chat to offer THEIR ideas and input for passenger control post landing. This pushing and shoving never happens on Lufthansa, Swiss, KLM, BA. Merely stating there is a new policy without implementation strategies and tactics will end up just another failed attempt at passenger management. Obnoxious passengers are routinely ignored on THY flights.
Who is speaking as "I" in this news? Why is the author unknown? It is very likely that this news is a continuation of the black propaganda that India has launched against Türkiye... Because India could not accept that Pakistan devastated India in 3 days in war started by India. They believe that the military technology that Türkiye provided to Pakistan is behind this success... Get well soon! It looks like you will suffer even more from this pain... There is nothing to do!
Please do not use Turkish Airlines flights so that we do not feel like we are in a curry shop during the journey. Let's have a comfortable journey without smells!
Racist to who? Folks in Boston, Denver and Oslo... or the other way around? How?
Pointing out norms is not racist.
Like Hello! you can't get off the plane until the passengers in front of you move ahead to exit. it only takes a few seconds to grab your overhead bag and move out. SIT TIGHT !! Even better check your bag and avoid the hassle of using the overhead compartments. I wonder if passengers with only a hand carry bag should be able to quickly disembark first ?..witch would increase 'checked' baggage $$
Turkish Airlines does not provide appropriate language services to many destinations they fly to. Recorded announcements must be played with these instructions other than in Turkish and English as needed based on the majority passenger profile. I flew to Dhaka from Istanbul and majority of the Bangladeshi passengers did not follow a word of any announcement made. There should have been recorded announcements in the Bangla language.
It's a disgraceful article, but the Red Baron 2.0 who wrote it should be forgiven—he's not a journalist, just your typical Trump voter.
just for your info , turkish flights are usually delayed by hours, i can understand the anxiety of those seated behind who are trying to rush for their connecting flights , some will still miss
Just to make it into an even playing field, I think there should be a fine extended to the crew, if they do not implement.
I am surprised in South Africa people sit and are allowed to stand 3 rows at a time makes disimbarkement easy
Can not regulare behavior of paying passengers. If too much control, passengers like me, simply take another Airline
Or do not visit. Polite announcement is Enough. After all Turkish Directorate not their mama to teach manner
Turkish Airlines are the worst for delays my flight was delayed for 6 hours and I.missed my connection flight ground staff at Istanbul airport were not very helpful was put in a hotel 3 hours away from the airport had to pay for a hotel myself as my next flight was very early in the morning No sleep.for 48 hours i WOULD HIGHLY NOT RECOMMEND FLYING WITH TURKISH AIRLINES WORST AIRLINE IN THE WORLD.. A very disappointed passenger
I have no interest in vacationing (the only reason I get on a plane) in Turkey or anywhere where IST makes sense as a connecting airport, so I have no concern about such a silly over-regulation. Enforce rules about remaining seated/buckled while the seatbelt light is on? Heck, yes. Not let me step into an empty aisle, get my bag (and often others') down? Stupid. I'm not trying to deplane before the rows in front of me. I'm not blocking anyone. But, I am often delayed when the guy in front of me waits to get his bag down when the path in front is empty.
I have not seen it in the USA yet, but it is very common in the Middle East for Saudi, Qatari, UAE's to stand up once the wheels hit the ground and start get ready!! Just plain Stupid, Ignorant & Entitled behavior if you ask me so I'm glad to see Turkish take the lead to curb this behavior!!
If a few of these idiots get fined or maybe even get suspended flying privileges, they might start acting like civil humans!!
Excellent idea. Sharing a metal tube with hundreds of others means that one needs to respect the space of other people.
Well if we actually could understand the announcement by upgrading the sound system so it doesn't sound like an ancient recording from the late 1800s then maybe we could follow the instructions. Most of the time I have no idea of what is being said.