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SO EXCITED: I'm About To Fly A Nearly Empty Air Belgium Flight!

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It has been a while since I've been this excited about a flight! I'm about to board an Air Belgium flight from Charleroi to Hong Kong (after the inaugural flight was canceled in late April). It has been a while since I've been this excited about a flight, so I can't help but just share…

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(@Claus)
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Cool trip, looking forward to your impressions! Hard to believe that they are actually flying, really.


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(@Michael)
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Perhaps they've got some decent cargo contracts to contribute towards the cost of operating the flights? HKG is a big cargo market


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 Jeff
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Lucky what constitutes an airport being a “total dump”? Having flown through it a couple times I would say it’s on par to regional USA airports or other small central/Eastern European airports.


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 JIm
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@Michael I doubt it. They are just taking a loss. If the cargo was so lucrative, they'd skip the seats and just put cargo in there also.


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(@Debit)
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Hard to keep up. Are you in Cairo or Belgium?


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(@Michael)
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Jim, not saying they're making a profit, and there may not be sufficient demand for just cargo but it may be negating some of their losses.

Emirates fly 77Ws to a lot of destinations instead of A389s because the 77W has a much higher cargo capacity. A decent cargo contract may have allowed them to commercially justify starting operations


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Gold
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I sort of agree with Michael. They might have some short term cargo contracts for now, that might alleviate their losses. But I'm sure that they are still losing a lot of money


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(@Tom Wood)
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You've reached the twilight zone.


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(@Callum)
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Why are they still not in a GDS? Surely it's one of the more simple parts of running an airline to organise!?


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(@Billiken)
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Reminds me of when we flew VG Airlines JFK-BRU


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Diamond
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I'm guessing they will be out of business within a couple of months.


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 CS
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The point of this flight is?


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(@alvin-ythk)
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@ CS – To showcase the cabin and review their service for our utility and entertainment. The point of your comment is?


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 JDS
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@Alvin

I think CS may just have been asking what the point of the flight is in the first place, i.e, Charleroi to HK, not the review itself.


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 Sam
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Really excited to read the full review.


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 T
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Apparently flights won't be sold out till 2021 at the earliest as the runway in Charleroi is too short for their planes to land when they're full...


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(@Niko_jas)
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Genuinely interested why they would number their flight KF 851 when they only have 1 flight to one destination. Why not KF001?


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(@matttw)
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@Alvin put your dick back in your pants. Whether @JDS is right or not, it's a pointless flight since the airline will be out of business or not operating its own flights soon.

That said, pointless flights are great and anything Lucky gets excited about he should do... still doesn't mean there's a point or logic behind it.


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(@donna)
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“The lounge is surprisingly nice....”. It looks rather spartan.


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(@Icarus)
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Air Belgium has been leasing to Air France during their maintenance. As far as I understand their Lagos flight Air Belgium has a fleet of 3 I guess they make more money leasing than operating a scheduled flight which is 90 % empty. How about the inbound from Hong Kong ?


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 CS
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That's exactly what I was alluding to. An airline flying long-haul on an not-so-efficient aircraft with no passengers from a second rate airport of a small country to Hong Kong. It's so obscenely pointless. I can't even.


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(@Icarus)
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@cs exactly.


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(@Nick G)
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@Billiken- my thoughts exactly on my VG experience roundtrip from BOS-BRU!


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 Eric
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Hello Lucky! You are currently over Kazakhstan! Have you memorized the names of the other 25 people on board yet?


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Diamond
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Pictures you shared don't exactly scream "dump". So I'm curious too why you think that?


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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Ugh. How can you say Charleroi Airport is a "total dump" in your article? What makes it a "total dump" when the pictures show an airport that looks as nice as most U.S. airports. Moreover, the check-in area looks perfectly fine.


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(@kirk999)
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So the airport advertises itself as "Brussels South". 68 km by road. That's 50% further than JFK to Manhattan, but still better than Stewart or Beauvais/Paris.


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(@deborah)
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Dump??? It looks fairly new and modern in your photos. And very clean. Maybe it's a dump because it doesn't have a Centurioun lounge???


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(@toastboi)
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is that a toaster in the lounge?? i would like to make toast with that toaster!!


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 Greg
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@Callum: In 1994, I helped a SEE Airline get into the GDSes and it required something like 5+ contracts at the time -- each lengthy. Time-consuming is the short answer.


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(@schar)
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how the hell is it a "dump"???? it looks clean modern and nice. i think ur just too spoiled...


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 Bim
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Welcome to HKG, Lucky! Can't wait to read this review!


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Can’t wait for this review.


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(@Matthieu)
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Charleroi airport is a disgrace.
I regularly fly out of there and have to say I always wonder how many brains did it take to make sure that the passengers have the worst airport experience in their entire life... There's not 1 single thing that is positive (from parking to boarding and vice-versa) about that airport and the only reason I fly out of there is because they have a direct flight to where I come from, which Brussels Airport doesn't have :-/


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(@James)
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Not sure if it's been mentioned above but these flights must be being operated purely to carry Cargo to/from HKG, can't see why else they'd operate a flight with 20 or so PAX on board


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